Well, I guess everyone was wrong and nothing happened to Bushie this

[saracat]

last week. Maybe this week? I thought something was up with the Rome trip and the eclipse, but nada. Even astrologically, the Chimp seems like Teflon! The only one in doo doo is Delay.

[Me.]

1. But What May Have Happened

that we don't know about? Not saying anything did. But with this group we may not know something till months later. Also isn't there a six months window before and after an eclipse like this.

[Nancy Waterman]

2. I have been trying to sense what this Uranus first phase has brought

He was booed in Rome (not carried by US media but surely pissed him off, especially since Clinton was cheered)

He has been very aggressive with Sharon. They used the word "threatened" on one broadcast, but it has since been cleaned up.

The Delay corruption stories have really sullied the Republicans as did the Schiavo actions.

Bolton is getting roasted in the Senate.

Riots in China against Japan

Somewhere in here or in something we haven't seen, is the root to the shift beginning to happen to Bush.

Also his polls are the worst in history for this point in time in the second term, story hitting the WP tomorrow.

[Me.]

3. Look At His Face

Just saw this. Something is not honkey dory.

[Me.]

4. Forgot The Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3465671

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. You are right something IS NOT honky dory

His face is blotched, and he even has a bruise... hard to see in spite of the make up

That said, General Sharon looks like crap as well

[DemExpat]

13. Sharon looks like he has an extreme aversion to being close to Bush.

DemEx

[hippiechick]

14. And on the same side as the Pretzel incident , IIRC ....

WTF is UP with that man ??

[Eloriel]

29. You know, you can edit your own posts for about an hour after

you originally post it. Helpful for occasions like adding forgotten links. :D

[Cha]

51. Uuuueeeiii!

What a mess! Something's getting to him.

[saracat]

5. You are right Nancy.

It was just that many were speaking about a more obvious event! I actually was surprised that our media carried ANY mention of the booing and both CNN and MSNBC mentioned it! And he doesn't look well, but IMHO ,he never does!

[Pallas180]

7. I think the bruises on his face look pretty obvious - you have

to wonder who's doing that to him.....kinky sex? or nasty arguments-

[Pallas180]

6. He looks like he's been in a boxing match - somebody is

beating him up, or he's into Opus Dei flagellation.

[Pallas180]

8. "Well, I guess everyone was wrong and nothing happened" I'm glad

you brought this up. Last year or the year before that I posted
that Noel Tyl had told me online that he was visited by "govt" people
both about what we were posting online - at the time we were looking at Tecumseh's curse - and they told him they wanted to confirm information that had been given to them by "their" astrologer.

I had posted online that the curse would come into effect the third year of his administration in the fall, around October.

Yesterday, I was at a conference and had a little aside conversation with Sean Morton.(the psychic lecturer and writer). He had been visited by the Secret Service, who asked him what dates were dangerous for the dimbot. I had the impression that Sean is a Republican. He confirmed that one of the dates he had given them was
October, and the fall of 2003.

Nothing happened did it?

And you know why nothing happened?

When you know your chart, astrologically, it is called taking control of the wheel of life.

You know what's coming...you're not walking blindly into trouble, you
have the guidance what's coming and the timing, therefore you can avoid it. He has the guidance. They are using several astrologers and psychics, and you will notice it was around that time that he was suddenly surrounded by 700 agents, as he is now at all times.

If you remember I kept saying I thought we were being read, that what we were posting was being read.

I don't doubt that they continue to read us, and then check with their own inhouse and other practitioners.

Sean mentioned other dates he gave them which I'm not going to mention here.

Nevertheless, there are many things you can avoid by knowing, but there are somethings that are absolutely unavoidable.

Both Nancy and I saw Pluto on his South Node opposing Uranus and expected his downfall as well as lots of financial and other secrets coming out... lot s of secrets, financial and otherwise did come out....we learned about Abu Graib, and Halliburton cheating on their bills, that the 80 bil allotted for Iraq had not been spent....but his downfall did not come.

Uranus conjunct his North Node trine Jupiter saved him. And you know what Uranus is? That's us. Astrologers, with out big mouth fingers, and the Internet. Both are Uranian - electronic communications - asstrology and psychic communication.

By the way - nobody could get close enough to hit him except his father and his wife. ???

And I mentioned there was a lot of tension on that plane. Pappy's
Ascendant is on Junior's Mars and they both had transiting Uranus opposite.

So when you say nothing happened, either he fell down drunk, or someone beat the hell out of him - and I believe both Nancy and I indicated he would be having temper tantrums. And I also said it would be a time of peril for him......and to watch the transits to the eclipse - and the next eclipse also. He has Mars Vertex to his
Uranus.

Not that many astrologers use the Vertex...so let them go running around asking what the Vertex means...heh heh heh.

:woohoo:

[Me.]

9. As To This

It has always been thought that Reagan didn't die in office because Nancy had his chart closely watched and wouldn't let him out on certain days. As to the SS protecting Ambush from his fate, there is a point, when the debts are piled so high that the sheer weight of them will cause a crash and there is nothing the SS can do about that. Their power will be limited when karma and hubris, decide to join forces and make a house call.

[Pallas180]

11. Karma, destiny, fated - yes, there comes a time

when you can't duck or hide under the bed.

[NEOBuckeye]

12. Surely, that must keep a lot of the SS up at night.

An "army" of 700, or even 700,000 may keep him safe from outside harm, but it can never protect "li'l Il Duce" from from the internal ravages of a job that he was never physically, mentally, emotionally or spiritually fit to handle in the first place. But then, whose fault is that? Certainly, not the SS.

Regardless, I personally don't want to see dimson end up "Kennedyized" if you catch my drift. If he becomes the "patron saint" of the NeoCon Right Wing, we'll never hear the end of it. I can't even stomach the thought of the endless tributes on every channel, 24/7 for the next 365 days speaking incessantly of his supposed "bravery, heroism and bold determination" on and since 9/11 in the battle against terroists. Gag me with a spoon!

Standing Trial at the ICC for their crimes against humanity and the planet is my one wish for all of the members of this cabal of callous hearts and hatred. May they all be brought to justice for their wicked ways in a court of the law, order and reason that they so greatly and desperately despise.

[Me.]

18. I Agree

The drums are already beating for sainthood for the pope, it would be unbearable if he (Ambush) was given that status too.

[Pallas180]

33. There will always be people who still think Nixon was framed

and the same thing will occur with dimbot...selective sight.

[tanyev]

15. Oooh, I would so love for it to become public knowledge

that they are consulting astrologers. How the fundies would howl.

[Pallas180]

16. Tanyev -"public knowledge they are consulting astrologers"

my thought exactly.

It would help diminish him and the administration - another echo of Hitler.

Sean, a nice fellow to be sure, but not adverse to publicity.

Noel is an ethical man -

Where I lived before I had friends on the local paper - here I dont know any reporters.

It's up to the reporters to call the two up and confirm that "readings" were requested by the Secret Service for the White House.

Does anyone know any reporters personally who they can pass this tip to?

[tanyev]

17. Some people here send things to Keith Olbermann.

I don't know if he would bite on anything like this. What about sending something to dailyKos? Or write something up yourself and post it in General Discussion. Start a tiny little snowball on its path down the mountain?

[Nancy Waterman]

19. This suggests to me that the battle about the Israeli settlements

between Sharon and Bush may have been brushed over in the media. Keeping in mind Bush's Mars is strongly activated right now, I can't imagine he was very gentle with Sharon.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8153927&src=eDialog/GetContent

[Nancy Waterman]

20. Josh Marshall puts the Delay crisis in perspective

Maybe it is really freaking out the Royal Twit



About one thing, that gaggle of ultras and moneymen rising to David Keene's call to save Tom DeLay is right: it doesn't stop with DeLay. And not just because Democrats

Much depends on whether DeLay gets nailed on particular instances of criminal conduct. But he isn't a Majority Leader who happens, possibly, also to be corrupt. The GOP Majority in the House is built on his corrupt practices, his money machine. They define its modes of operation and priorities.

The oft-mentioned Jack Abramoff may be the prime examplar of that species of Washington operator -- Homo bagmanus. But there are so many more, all cogs in the DeLay machine.

I don't mean that the Democrats would be in the majority if it weren't for DeLay (though it is worth noting that the Republicans only made their modest advances in the House last year because of the criminal conduct DeLay's lieutenants employed in Texas to get the state redistricted). But the cash-n-carry rules he's used to run the House have compromised most of the leadership of the caucus as well as many of its marginal members. DeLay has built a political machine that runs on corrupt, pay-for-play money -- it's the water that floats the river boats he makes run on time.

What about Rep. Bob Ney (R) of Ohio, who is knee-deep in the Abramoff/Scanlon Indian tribe shakedown? He's chairman of the Committee on House Administration. How about the Ethics Committee which was purged of all three Republican members who wouldn't change conference rules to help DeLay deal with impending criminal indictments.

They're right. It doesn't end with DeLay. He and the House Republican party are one and the same.
-- Josh Marshal

[Pallas180]

21. Big Brother is watching everywhere:

Secret Service visits art show at Columbia

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-axis12.html

April 12, 2005

BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter

Organizers of a politically charged art exhibit at Columbia College's Glass Curtain Gallery thought their show might draw controversy. But they didn't expect two U.S. Secret Service agents would be among the show's first visitors.

The agents turned up Thursday evening, just before the public opening of "Axis of Evil, the Secret History of Sin," and took pictures of some of the art pieces -- including "Patriot Act," showing President Bush on a mock 37-cent stamp with a revolver pointed at his head.

The agents asked what the artists meant by their work and wanted museum director CarolAnn Brown to turn over the names and phone numbers of all the artists. They wanted to hear from the exhibit's curator, Michael Hernandez deLuna, within 24 hours, she said.
-more-

[Pallas180]

22. Bruises on the face:

I was just talking with another astrologer about the bruises and it
occurs to us - either she's beating him up -

OR

this guy might have epilepsy.

The bruises this time are both on the right and left side of his face.
If you were falling down in an epileptic fit, and bouncing on the floor, you might get bruises on both sides.

What other explanation could there be?

And you notice the WH has said nothing about it.

Another item to write the newspapers about and talking heads about as
a question.

Being too lazy and tired at this late hour to look it up, does anyone know the astrological signature for epilepsy?

He has Neptune in the third of the mind and speech - and wherever Neptune is, is where you have a leak of energy-

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. If he has it, they will prescribe meds

those meds, from what I remember, tend to make people sleepy as in very sleepy, and alcohol is an absolute no-no

So if he looks tired all the time...

By the way, I was going over the marketing data for my web site (company) and guess who came to read the site?

You guessed it, I had multiple hits over the first week from gov'ment sites... yes you can tell with the marketing data. I am sure Skinner has noticed that pattern for this site.

;-)

Oh and before I go to bed...

FU Hoover... you boys really need a copy of the Constitution, which now I am guilty of distributing.... have been buying copies and just giving them away to friends and family.

[Pallas180]

24. Nadin,

could you print out here (copy and paste) the names of the
government agencies that were checking out your site.

Just out of curiosity, to see where the brownshirts are going and
coming from.

Hitler's play book

Actually, you could e mail the snoopers a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights - so that they can understand they're killing this
country.

[Pallas180]

25. Epilepsy

I knew a girl who had epilepsy and was on meds...

one day she came over to me and told me she had epilepsy and could
feel something coming on, and would I help her...

I got her on the couch, put a pencil between her teeth and held her
so she wouldn't bounce onto the floor.

Maybe some of the people can feel an incident coming on, and maybe some can't ? ?

[emcguffie]

26. IT's called an "aura" I think

Like in migraine.

My brother has had four or five grand mal seizures, and he knows when they're coming. Sometimes he doesn't get far enough, sometimes he does.

It's really weird, his trigger is seeing blood and gore.

[Pallas180]

32. Thanks e Mcguffie, for the info - maybe *'s

trigger is seeing his father or Just My Bill - and together, it was
just too much for him !

:bounce:

:woohoo:

[emcguffie]

27. I forgot to ask --

Was he in Crawford recently? Couldn't he have fallen off of his bicycle? He rides it very "aggressively"..... Mountain bike.

[tanyev]

28. Yes, he was in Crawford and

boy, howdy, he does ride that bike aggressively. Our manly president doesn't whistle no show tunes when he's out biking, no sir, and don't you forget it.

[Me.]

30. What Is He, 6?

He's always falling off that bike, or so they would like us to believe.

[hvn_nbr_2]

34. Oh, sorry, did we say bike?

We meant wagon. :sarcasm:

Georgie after falling: :hangover:

We need a smilie for "falling down drunk and wacking your face on nearby objects."

[smirkymonkey]

54. That's more like it!

:evilgrin:

[Digit]

31. Tsk

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I do remember

during the campaigning last year he was a little late taking his physical. I think just a couple days but still enough to be noticed. Of course they claimed he was so busy with campaigning. :eyes: According to an AAR news report Bush publicially just gained a few pounds from road food and stuff. I doubt that of course. Why else would he be late for his phyiscals?

[Pallas180]

41. Lots of medications put weight on you. leaves us

wondering.

[SpiralHawk]

52. Astro signature for epilepsy

The main factors here are planet Mars and the sign it rules, Aries. They both have to do with the head and afflictions of the head.

Rex E. Bill's "The Rulership Book" lists Aries and the Moon for epilepsy, and I can definitely see the Moon being a factor.

However, as nancy has pointed out, Bush has transit Uranus opposite his natal 9-degree Virgo Mars now and on into the year.

I think its entirely likely that Bush will have many more Mars-Head moments as the year unfolds. Since he has Aries on his MC -- they should be visible. We are likely to see the results of the surging jitter of Uranus through his chart.

I continue to feel strongly though, that the visible face and head (Mars-Aries) wounds, are emblematic. By that I mean they are simply signs or symbols of an upset much deeper and more profound going on in Bush's male psyche.

[cliss]

35. If you look closely at the bruises,

you'll notice there is a long red scratch on one of them. I think this is the one from Crawford. Maybe I should make a catalog of the bruises?

Bush has had bruses on both sides of his cheeks, left and right. They seem to be right on or above his cheek bone, which suggests that he hit something, possibly falling and scraping his cheek on the carpet. This seems the most plausible. If Bush has epilepsy, they will probably not take the risk of having him fall directly onto a hardwood floor. So they probably make sure he has soft carpeting underneath him.

Also, the long red scratch indicates that he scraped something, maybe the corner of a table, as he went down.

I think this also has something to do with the "Box on his back". I've read several versions that this is in fact some kind of device which gives Bush medication on a steady basis.

[autorank]

36. "medication on a steady basis"

:wtf:cliss, I've heard of "depot" antiipsychotics but not a depot strapped to your back. This is getting really creepy!

:hi:

[Nancy Waterman]

37. economic data worrying

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-econ14apr14,0,1223223.story?coll=la-home-business

Bush may know how bad it really is. The transit was exact around Monday.

[autorank]

45. Nancy, what do you think of this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3482593

[loudsue]

46. Wal Mart says "foul weather" dented sales of spring clothing?

<snip>

Ford Motor Co. suffered a 5% sales decline last month, with customers fleeing from gas-guzzling trucks and sport utility vehicles. And Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said foul weather dented sales of spring clothing.

These bozos simply REFUSE to believe that our boycot of WalMart has been effective against their sales numbers! Everywhere I go, people are talking down WalMart...word of mouth IS spreading.

:shrug: De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt! These guys will keep trying to spin the walmart story until the last man falls.

:kick:

[cliss]

44. Strange, isn't it?

I got very interested in the "Box" a few months ago when this was really big news. I read lots of articles, some by professionals (like doctors, shrinks, technicians etc).

The prevailing view seemed to be that the "Box" could not be a remote listening device. Even though Bush seemed to be talking to someone when he said, "Let me finish". Also, there were some photos of some type of wire or thin tubing under his jacket. It was plain as day! You could see it.

But the experts seemed to give a thumbs down to the listening device theory. They said that it simply would not work. The time lapse would be too long - say Rove was eavesdropping in the background, trying to answer the questions so Bush could answer them.

Bush would be listening on the other end, waiting for instructions. They said that the time lapse would be too long for these events to take place. Bush would stand there, waiting, as the public grows outraged and smells a rat. Nex, the rotten vegetables start flying.

Now in my opinion, it seems like that's EXACTLY what Bush was doing at the debates. But they seemed to feel that it was some kind of drip device that would give Bush medication, almost like an IV drip.

Who knows? It's just weird to me.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Something I wonder with that

Are there any recent photos of Bush and his back where you can try to see if you see a box? I still think he was being fed answers. Especially in the first debate. One question he wanted to reply and he was about to talk and out of nowhere he said "let me finish" and I remember Kerry and the mod looking at him weird.

[Pallas180]

42. Well they say it's his "armor" but kevlar vests dont make a bump

like that. Looks to me like it was an audio thingy or something...

but it sure didn't have anything to do with kevlar.

[stellanoir]

40. sorry,

there was a thread earlier on GD that said that a suit had been filed in the Hague to charge * with war crimes and apprehend him as soon as his cloven hoof hit the Netherlands. He's intending to go there in early May.

I copied the URL but then lost it 'cause I was doing some research with my son. Can't recall the title (though I know it contained the word "smirk") and stink at doing searches, especially after doing research with my son.

According to the thread, the ICC will rule on it on the 29th. I know that it would be one of most of our favorite fantasies but with Uranus still in orb to the opposition of his Mars, and approaching his last Saturn return, I can't help but indulge in it. Silly me.

Also, there have been a slew of election fraud threads over the last week or so.

We can only hope that the truth comes out in the end and that this heinous bozo gets exposed.

[DemExpat]

49. This thread? It was in GD Politics...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1724065

:hi:

DemEx

[stellanoir]

50. yup

thanks for finding it !

[Pallas180]

43. WOW - they just showed a picture of him throwing out baseball

and he's got a big "egg" lump high up near his hairline. not even an
egg - the size of a baseball ! ???

:shrug:

[Me.]

47. Another Bush Pic

check out forehead

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x357728

[hippiechick]

48. Carpet burns on his forehead ?

:shrug: What kinda freaky shit is that boy into ??

[bobthedrummer]

53. Remember "the gimp" from "Pulp Fiction"?

Maybe something freaky like that or some Skull and Bones ritual.
:7

[Pallas180]

55. I vote for tantrums and banging his head against walls or floor -

:woohoo:

[bobthedrummer]

56. Whatever he does I just know it's apeshit-it's severe, whatever it is.

Primal forces all out of balance.:scared:

[autorank]

57. Maybe he'll totally decompensate at a press conference.

Just lose it, tell the truth about one his many crimes. That would be priceless.

[DemExpat]

58. We all used to expect that to happen in his first years....

and it never did.... :-(

:-)

DemEx

[autorank]

59. A moment of Zen...

...your post was like a smack from a Zen master.:think: He does it all the time! We're just used to it.

The Horror

[Pallas180]

60. Yes it did. Remember when he said it would be easier if

this was a dictatorship and he was the dictator...that was the truth.. couldn't have been any broader hint as to where he was heading.

[DemExpat]

62. Ah, yes, his whole demeanor has been the "truth" to us....

but this is never picked up by the mainstream, unfortunately....


DemEx

[icymist]

61. Put the two pictures side by side:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3465671

And the last picture here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x357728

(Sorry, I don't know how to paste the pictures here)
Anyway, in the later...makeup? Is this something recurring in the same area? I suggest we gather as many pictures of Bush as we can into one single thread, also the dates when the photos were published. Just my humble opinion.

[Pallas180]

63. On the first and second pictures, looking at them facing you, look to

the left. He has an egg/baseball size lump up on his high forehead and it's red/bruised. Why is it that not one reporter has aksed a question about it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Mrs_Beastman]

64. Usually with eclipses, the changes it causes can happen a

month before or after about a month. Sort of a window of opportunity.

[Me.]

65. More Bruises

What the heck is going on with this guy?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3517251

[Pallas180]

66. Cheezus - electric shock treatments ? and that's where the

little thingies go on his head?