Is anyone feeling a sense of agitation about this summer at the Dem Convention?

[saracat]

There have been so many threats of violence if BO is NOT the nominee that I am very uneasy.The party is so divided and seems ready to go up like tinderbox.Are we looking at another 1968? What do the astrologers and the sensitives feel? I was going to attend but I am reconsidering.Anyone getting anything on this?

[crikkett]

1. Can I ask where you heard about threats of violence? I've had GD-P turned off.

:evilgrin:

[saracat]

2. They were in GD:P.

I'd have to go look.One referred to folks using cell phones to coordinate agitiation. Something about , we are "well financed , have cell phones and transportaion" and another about some being Iraq vets willing to stage a miltary operation to make ensure the nomination.The posts may have been removed.The gist of them was "if it comes to violence, it will be worth it".

[Hatchling]

3. I've seen them as well.

It has me very disturbed.

I wonder what the astrology chart says about the convention. Has anyone done one?

[saracat]

5. That is what I am wondering.I am getting a feeling that it would be best to get out of here if one

can. I am not comfortable in this country anymore. I am so sorry I didn't leave when I wanted to. Now we don't have enough money.But hopefully , I am just picking up transitory bad feelings.

[I Have A Dream]

6. Yeah, my first inclination is to run as well.

Then I start thinking that I was put here at this time for a reason, and maybe this has something to do with it.

What's really weird to think about is that the people during the Revolutionary War (and other wars) were people just like us. I try to imagine being a person just like myself back then and wonder how much fear, apprehension, etc. they felt.

Here's hoping that everyone stays safe.

:grouphug:

[crikkett]

9. well that's just freaking great, idiots running at the mouth

probably too stupid to realize that they can be tracked at the snap of a finger - no, the tap of a key - and then it's ruined for the rest of us.

Dumbasses.
Sorry, I have little patience for dumbassery today.

[Celebration]

4. Not at all

It will be decided before the convention.

I have a sense of complete anarchy by the time of the election, however. This has to do with conditions in the country. I'm not that accurate on stuff like this, fortunately. :)

[BlueIris]

7. I'm feeling a little apprehensive. Jesse Jackson was right to refer to the convention as the

"trainwreck in Denver" last week. But I think you should base your decision about whether or not to go on what you are feeling.

[Coyote_Bandit]

8. Yes

Ego and emotions are invested. Reason and practicality are being largely ignored. The nomination has become personal to lots of folks other than the candidates. We are already seeing a lot of repeated persistent aggressive behaviors by supporters on behalf of candidates and campaigns. Behaviors that simply do not respect the rights of others to have differing opinions and conclusions. Behaviors that suggest a particular outcome is expected - and perhaps even a matter of entitlement. That kind of overt disrespect of appropriate boundaries is the stuff of disruption, disunity and long term division.

There seems to be an implicit assumption that whoever secures the Dem nomination will win in the general election. With that comes a presumption that the party will unify to defeat McCain. Regardless of who gets the Dem nomination, I'm not so sure that will happen. Too many have deep personal investments in their chosen candidate - and their loyalties will not easily or quickly transfer to a competitor. There are Dems who will choose not to vote and Dems who will vote for McCain. And there most definitely are Dems who will vote for Nader. There's the possibility that the candidate who does not get the nomination will run as a third party candidate - or that his supporters will write him in in the general election. None of this bodes well for a win in the general election. And make no mistake about it, if Dems lose they will have only themselves to blame.

Unless some arrangement is made before the convention it will be well documented and historic in its scope and long term implications. Personally, it would be hard for me to resist that kind of first hand view of history being made. The dynamics are different than in 68. I don't expect violence on the same scale. But I do expect disruptions, perhaps a few instances of physical or violent aggression - and lots of nastiness. I'm inclined to think there will be walk outs and no shows that result in a loss of quorum and the inability to proceed with business. I do think security personnel will maintain high visibility and will respond quickly and decisively to aggression. The persistent racial allegations could be the tinderbox that ignites a larger physical confrontation. Race is an issue in our society - and in this election. Too bad we can't have a civil discussion on the matter. The same could be said about gender, age, faith and nationality.