Half Past Human - Latest Report - Feedback From The DU Seers And Astrologers

[lostnotforgotten]

Hi All,

I wonder if the seers and astrologers can comment on the last report from Half Past Human.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/

Here is a summary of the last Web Bot run that samples the Internet for linguistic shifts.

Effectively, the HPH time monks are uncovering a shift that reflects the end of the world as we know it.

Snip from another forum post on the internet:

http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=39124&sid=1818e29a9fb95814e6a37f672782b073

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They said miles long trains will be carrying bodies of the U.S. the trains will go for as far as the eye can see. (FEMA trains? - dead or not?)

Everyone needs to have EVERYTHING they will need for the future by mid July - otherwise you will be out of luck. Anything needed that is shipped in from another country needs to be gotten NOW!

Whistleblowers will be coming out about NASA and other things.

PTB will be trying to stop information from getting out, but won't be able to.

PTB will have many blocks put in their way.

Coastal Event.

War - Israel will attack another country - BUT in the end, Israel will be decimated - our Military will be decimated - due to abuse of them by the PTB.

No more health care nor medicines by Winter.

A problem that causes huge amounts of death (pandemic by winter?) - I hear that is in the part 6 - that no one will publish right now.

No more stock markets - will cease in Winter

Food a big problem - come winter.

A woman with a scar will be part of the disclosure of the PTB information and whistleblowers.

It seems that Clif and George feel they need to spend their time preparing and get everything in order for mid July. They may come back with an extended type report in a few months. I think, they feel they have done all they could and now it is kind of like - gameover, for them.
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[MorningGlow]

1. Just IMO

but this doesn't resonate with me. This gloom-and-doom future WAS a potentiality at one time (and still is to a small extent) but it's been minimized beyond all recognition and is not likely any longer, thank goodness. But like I said, just IMO. YMMV.

[crikkett]

53. Remember, Half-Past Human reports based on what people are saying, not what will be.

The data includes everyone parroting Glenn Beck and Limbaugh and Alex Jones. People are *saying* a whole lotta BS and panic.

[Kookaburra]

2. Sorry -- I'm not feeling this at all.

I just don't see the gloom and doom. Thank goodness. I feel like we will become more self-sufficient -- growing our own food, manufacuring our own products and not so much importing. These feels good to me though. It feels like a positive step and people will be happier because of it.

I feel like the stock market as we know it will no longer exist, but there will not be an economic collapse -- more like a "regrouping".

There will be plenty of whistle-blowing, which will bring the truth to light. This is good. Yes a lot of the "people in charge" right now will be negatively affected by it, but it's still going to be the best thing to happen to most of us.

Do you think that maybe the "problem that causes huge amounts of deaths" could be the catalyst for those souls who have not and cannot/will not ascend?

[Matariki]

3. what's PTB?

why do people always use obscure acronyms as if they were common knowledge?

Have I ever mentioned that I *hate* doom prophets?

I think there is something in the human psyche that makes us more inclined to believe gloom and doom predictions than predictions of a happier nature. Why is that, do you suppose?

[lostnotforgotten]

4. PTB - Powers That Be

eom

[MorningGlow]

5. "Powers That Be"

That one is pretty common, actually.

I must admit that I interviewed a very famous spiritual person a while back, and the minute that person started going on about how we're not doing well/not ready and we should expect to have our own water supply and start hoarding food, I was turned off in a HUGE way. I had quite a challenge on my hands, keeping my distaste from coloring the article.

As for the doom and gloom penchant, I'd say it's because humans are story loving creatures by nature. We love drama, love to tell stories, and love to listen to stories. And of course the best stories are the ones with the greatest amount of drama.

[Matariki]

6. I mean to say, I hate doom prophecies, not the people making them. n/t

[Matariki]

7. What I find interesting is their process - which might explain the doom & gloom

they cull current internet posts and use some sort of algorithm on the culled text to come up with their predictions.

Given how insane and paranoid the right wing blogosphere has become (become?! I mean *more* insane) since Obama became president, well the dire predictions shouldn't come as a surprise. I *don't* think they're accurate.

[Why Syzygy]

15. That was my thought too.

The Glen Beck and ilk scenario. Although, nothing Israel does would surprise me.

The tip off is "FEMA", as the RWers have been screaming that from the rooftops since 1/21/09. We progressives have those conversations quarantined to the 911 dungeon, but the RW folks have entire websites devoted to Conspiracy.

All the same, I'll take some precautions, especially with a supply and backup supply of GSE!! (grapefruit seed extract)

[Mist]

8. I'm not a "doom'n'gloomer" either, but I'm still storing beans and rice and water, just

in case. Oh, and coffee, too. I feel if I can just have my coffee in the morning, I can more easily handle what the day throws at me.

[Why Syzygy]

18. Do you know of any

decent non-dairy coffee creamer?

[Mist]

23. Haven't found any yet. It's all soy based stuff. As long as I can, I'll

use fat-free half-and-half. If that product (Land o'Lakes) becomes unavailable, I'll make a liquid creamer from the powder, or from dried milk. I really hate just dumping a powder into my coffee! If refrigeration becomes unavailable, I'll learn to drink coffee black.

[Why Syzygy]

24. I can't drink it black.

But, what about canned milk? Sweetened condensed or evaporated maybe?

[Mist]

32. That would work, but isn't it a bit sweet? If you take sugar in your coffe it won't

matter.

[juno jones]

33. One of my best friends put condensed milk iin his coffee.

Yes, it sweetens it. I never drink sweetened coffee but I would at his house. The condensed milk was pretty good.

[Matariki]

41. Powdered milk works fine and it stores well.

I have a box of it I use in my coffee when I forget to buy milk. Just put a tablespoon of the powder in the coffee and stir well.

[Why Syzygy]

42. Thanks to you and the other posts above...

I'm going to do some experimentation to find a substitute. I LOVE half/half though.

[Kind of Blue]

9. Maybe it's a regional thing.

I don't get all into the fear prophesies but I do listen, take stock, and do a quick mental inventory.
What's intriguing me right now is the swine flu in my area (specifically San Diego that has 5 cases now and 69 deaths from it in nearby Mexico) and the severe drought with the water rationing starting for us in July. But on balance, there are a lot of other good creative management ideas happening, as well. But I will keep aware and grounded. Thanks for posting.

[Matariki]

14. It's always good to have an emergency kit in storage

you know, a few days or so of water and food. Living in an (overdue) earthquake zone, I've got one. But that's different than believing the apocalypse, or some far reaching social collapse is on it's way.

[Kind of Blue]

35. Yeah, that's what I mean by the inventory

and taking stock. Definitely stocked up on the water and canned/dry goods over the years due to the earthquake factor, just have to resist eating 'em when too lazy to go to the market :rofl: But not going to give into fears of a pandemic!

[mysticalchick]

10. I am willing to bet ...

.... that the Psychic Consortium would be able to dispel this in a heartbeat. PC? Might this be something on which you can elucidate?

A shift IS upon us but, like others here have said, the fear, doom and gloom thing doesn't resonate with me. That doesn't mean it's not possible, just that as I listen with my heart, I don't feel the fear.

I've mentioned before that we, as Lightworkers, must hold that energy for others who DO get caught in the doom-and-gloom muck. That's where lots of wingers are right now and that mindset definitely has an effect on mass consciousness. As I see it, my work is not to go there but to hold up that flashlight and say "See? We'll get there. Might be hard but we will get there." and then take their hand and keep walking.

[peacetalksforall]

11. Well, I printed it out, read it, because of the difficulty of flow with all the

parentheses. Now, I need a translation. Starting with SpaceGoatFarts. Man, oh man.

What did I get into? I feel I'm sensitive and I am confident that I have ripped through the intentions and motives of those who are trying to gain total control over us - I did this by deduction as did the majority of people on DU. We know there is a 'gathering' of these who have no qualms about planned population control, about total theft, torment, torture, deceit. I would have never used the grouping of words that the authors did - fascists/bilderburgers/illuminati - because I don't know enough, but the label fits and we have seen many clues.

It is very difficult to accept the total state of affairs as seen by these authors and not ask why there isn't some other way to see some light and change using the will rather than a dictum of betrayal of people. Why not good people with good direction emanating out instead of horror pouring in from a small source in comparison?

Two things run through my head constantly lately and they keep growing, I take pleasure in the insight, intellect, or secret knowledge that the Mayans and probably others tried to document what they figured out or were told. I believe there is something there.

This is supported by the hesitation of listening to all the American supremacist stuff that pours out - the indignation that we would be attacked. All I can think of is that the two continents of the Western Hemisphere were invaded by people of the Eastern Hemisphere who turned around and invaded many countries in both hemispheres. The other is that a people who have suffered at the hands of many other people are now making others suffer - I mean the mostly new inhabitants of Israel. What blindness has infected them that makes them unable to see what they are doing and where they are trying to go. They, more than any other group, hold the benevolent or malevolent future at this point in time.

Anyway, I will be glad to read the translation. I need it. Who's writing it?

[lostnotforgotten]

13. Cliff Says That All The Things That Don't Fit Into Identifiable Categories Go Into

The space goat farts categories.

Here is a link to a recent interview with Cliff, the technique inventor.

http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/04/06/web-bot-update-april-4-2009--cliff-high-interview-by-journeys-with-rebecca-1-download-link-2-hour-audio-submitted-by-the-okie.aspx

http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr9/jwr9_april4a.mp3

http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr9/jwr9_april4b.mp3

[NEOBuckeye]

12. No "Doomsday" vibes here

Everything I feel and everything I've read says that things are going to get much better in the next few years and beyond, not worse. Maybe, however, this depends upon what and where your emotional investments are.

Of course, if your emotional well being depends upon maintaining the social, political and economic status quo, then you are probably going to be feeling like your sky is falling and that your world is coming to an abrupt and horrifying end. I believe this is the case among most of the Right-Wingers/Conservatives and the survivalist types on both sides of the political spectrum. When you've been in the dark your entire life, even seeing the smallest ray of light can be a painful experience.

If you follow astrology, channelings and the psychic insights of PC and others, then you already know that what is coming will be a great awakening, with great opportunities to massively uplift and transform humanity for the better, and a tremendous worldwide effort to restore the Earth to full health and beyond.

It's like FDR said, there's nothing to fear but fear itself.

[Why Syzygy]

16. The only recommendation I continue to give is GSE!

Even with the current status of a bizarre strain of flu at the doorstep, it is a precaution well worth the (small) investment.

I wish I could find the original document that recommends GSE for flu epidemics. It made sense to me right away. The most potent energy healer I've ever personally known also says it is the BEST guard against all sorts of creepies.

[Why Syzygy]

17. A couple of other thoughts...

"long trains" .. Obama has initiated the fast rail systems . miles long

"whistle blowers" .. have new protections . up front this day is torture and possibly UFO activity

"PTB" .. probably a changing of the guard from old PTB to new PTB, an internal struggle more than outer

"health care" .. perhaps referring to the new way coming and passing of the old way of money profit above all else

"stock market" .. restructuring . read yesterday 2 of 3 big banks will file bankruptcy

"food" .. there are extensive droughts at present . food supplies will be affected . also GMOs and biofuels have overtaken large areas needed for food supply . might mark a correction of that trend

Not psychic. Just Libra moon (straddle every fence)

[Psychic Consortium]

43. Yes PC noticed this too....

The computer presents odd distortions, all current changes being made dark and negative. Your comments shape them to a more neutral and accurate presentation.

[Why Syzygy]

19. sheesh .. Since they are taking a vacation and planning the release of an ebook

ALTA 1309 - Part Six (last report of series):- Privilege, Saddle Up!
http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=39124&sid=1818e29a9fb95814e6a37f672782b073

I guess they aren't too concerned about a complete crash of society. :eyes:

Although, if Israel attacks Iran, all bets are off.

[northernlights]

20. I looked at the little hanging skeleton on their home page

and thought "yuck, who are they trying to appeal to?"

And read through their methodology and figured, "no wonder."

Not just all the rw bs out there, but all the news about wars, famines, storms, economy, climate change, etc. and now possible flu pandemic, and general msm fear-mongering.

[Psychic Consortium]

21. PC is taking a look at this.....

from a scientific as well as clairvoyant point of view.
Will get back to you as soon as we can.

[Sanity Claws]

22. Thank you for showing up here!

We always love it when you pop in here.

[juno jones]

34. Thanks PC

You guys are one of the reasons this does not resonate (along with a few other seers on the nets who have repeatedly demonstrated their veracity).

It may be a reflection of the past and our tortured souls, but it is no reflection of the future we can have.

[mother earth]

25. Don't you all remember the doom and gloom predictions of last

year? Their method is questionable, and their success seems inflated and self-appointed.

Where are the Tibetan monk predictions? I didn't see them, which link to follow?

I do believe we'll have major crises ahead, but you don't have to claim a psychic connection on that. After the state our country has been left in, purposely, is it any wonder everything is hitting the fan? Let's face it, the past admin was probably aiming for more chaos than they left behind. That we have survived thus far speaks volumes about the new admin.
However, I do find it bothersome that Darth Vader still has the limelight these days, more so than when he held office...and I was always troubled by the fact that George Sr always keeps abreast of CIA happenings...

I think once the DOJ deals with the torture issues, whistleblowers will be stepping forward on all other fronts...why would one risk it all if nothing would come of it? The veils are being lifted, we know that. Would any of us be surprised if Wall St & the banks are gone? Maybe that would be more in keeping with the spiritual and cathartic transformation we hope for?

Chaos ahead...lol...no kidding?!!!??!! But somehow they've still got people paying for a subscription & for all their other junk. Gameover...yeah right, have they closed out their bank accounts?

How can any of us be surprised, afterall this is tea-bagging year! The great divide...has it ever been more transparent? It's like half the world is sane, the other half in denial of science and fact, and banking heavily on fear and all it spawns. Even the tea-baggers weren't clear on what side they were on...they were just angry.

It's not that bad things could happen, it's that FEAR will gain a foothold and wipe away common sense and the ability to think. "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

[mother earth]

26. I tried to edit, but was unsuccessful....

on edit, I see it is HPH monks...say what? What exactly is this, another self-appointed title?...glad I re-read the OT...at least the Tibetans hold a measure of credibility.

[Why Syzygy]

28. "HPH" Half past Human monks... their moniker .

It's all about 2012. I'm working on some information (re:2012) that I haven't wanted to post here.
If I can work it into a presentable format, I may decide to do so.

One question the interview left me with also, is the galactic effect Ur says happens "every 20 years".
I have to go back and listen again to find out what he was referring to. It isn't the Mayan time cycle, that's for sure.

[mother earth]

30. I did not listen to the interviews, but I believe the cycles are 26

years...the Ages/Yugas.

[Why Syzygy]

27. As I posted on the new thread.

I listened to both parts of the interview. Mr. Ur indicates that TPTB/MSM aim to stir up fear. Yet, it seems to me that their predictions do exactly that as well. How is THEIR method of fear spreading better than TPTB?

There was nothing about "Tibetan Monk" predictions. A lot of focus was on the "coastal event". This is nothing new. We've been having coastal events for awhile now, and if the arctic shelf is breaking apart, there are sure to be more.

Also, we've already seen remarkable changes in the practices of the stock market and banks. More to follow, not too surprising. If you clean out a rat's nest, there are going to be rat turds.

Some of their predictions are VERY specific. China will insist that USA audit our gold. That can be verified or discredited.

You're right. There are many dooms day'ers on the Internet these days. They have come out of the cracks since the change in the administration. I wonder where all those kooks were during the Bush admin? Not a peep from them then? But, now? I still cannot help but believe so much of this is race related. The denial that USA can elect a black president just will not sink into some heads.

Half the world is insane. Amen sista.

[mother earth]

29. Why Syzygy, on the same wavelength with you for sure.

Chaos by design is their mantra...they are always busy little bees. I feel the Mexican flu outbreak has their hand in it as well. The more they can stir the happier they seem to be. It's up to us to be discerning and be able to "see" what has become so obvious.

I tried hard to edit my response about the Tibetan monks...I now see they gave themselves yet another title...HPH monks...they are half past human alright...that's one thing they got right.

[japple]

31. This sounds a bit like the Y2K forecasts. It does not resonate

with me. However slowly it may seem to us now, I see brighter day ahead.

[Psychic Consortium]

36. These predictions are not accurate.

PC concurs with the consensus reached by the other posters here. The predictions as stated by the computer generated model are not accurate. And as many of you have pointed out, their list seems odd and distorted, causing discomfort on a psychic level.

This computer modeling method is apparently picking up the current state of collective angst amongst the world’s population, rather than future predictions. And given world events, the current angst is understandably doom and gloom. However that is not our future reality.

As PC has stated before, there will be many positive and beneficial changes occurring on this planet. These changes may be stressful, but not bad in the long run. The stock market, business, politics, as PC has discussed in the past, will be changing for the better. But there will be bumps in the road along the way.

As indicated previously there are and will be many whistle blowers across the political, military, and corporate spectrum. This will be painful, but needed for the US and world to move into the 21st century and to correct wrongs.

PC continues to say that the energy is no longer available in any significant way for those who have harmed the US and the world. Their power is fading. Obama continues to do all that was predicted and more. He will continue to be very successful and brilliant. We will be a changed society for the better due to him. We are truly blessed to have him as a leader. All is well, infinitely well.

(Obama has the torture issue/justice under control and all is proceeding according to plan, a carefully thought out step by step plan on his part. The largest variable is the will of the American people, but that will gather great steam and change as information continues to be disseminated. Obama has also identified those who run a shadow government and is working on taking their power away. That is why there is much squawking as of late. People backed into a corner tend to make a lot of noise)

[mysticalchick]

38. Thank you, PC ..

... for the reminder of all you've indicated before. Your words resonate with my own feelings about all this.

Sometimes, I feel like Britney Spears in "Fahrenheit 9/11" when she says "I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that." because I do just that. I'm not saying not to speak up when something moves us to do so but I really do trust that Obama is working behind the scenes with the highest good of the country in mind. Definitely could NOT say that about the Cheney/Bush admin.

Speaking of which, any thoughts on why Darth Cheney has been so vocal of late? Trying to save his own ass?

[Psychic Consortium]

39. Trust, healing, leadership, shadow govt

Because we have had exceptionally bad leadership for many years, it is hard for the American people to trust current leaders, and to believe that we may actually have an extraordinary leader, one who is a true public servant, a genius and has the temperament, morality and intellect to lead us successfully into the 21st century. America is like an abused spouse who has yet to believe she is in a healthy relationship. It will take time to trust and to heal.

Regarding Cheney, comments made in a recent PC post below pertain to this topic: "Obama has also identified those who run a shadow government and is working on taking their power away. That is why there is much squawking as of late. People backed into a corner tend to make a lot of noise."

[NEOBuckeye]

40. Thank you, PC

Your insights are always uplifting, and I do feel the ring of truth about them.

I also agree that Cheney is making so much noise, because he thinks he has so much to protect, and therefore, so much to lose. As a man who revels and thrives in the clandestine, the intense and unwavering light of scrutiny is Cheney's nemesis. Obama, however, will be successful in taking away his power and ability to operate in the dark.

[Psychic Consortium]

37. Comment on methodology

PC finds the computer generated model a fascinating attempt to use science and computers in the area of predictive work. PC does believe some of the premises as stated by HPH, i.e. we are all psychic, and that one can get predictive information by tapping the collective unconscious.

However this task is much more complex than simply obtaining random sampling of internet words. This computer model is in a very rudimentary stage and will need much more work to become accurate.

Also computer generated material in any field always requires the review and synthesis of a human professional before dissemination to the public, to ensure accuracy, correct interpretation and ethical use.

[Desertrose]

57. My sense is that it will always require the "human touch"....

or should I say the divine human touch.

Exciting and interesting as it may be to try to predict from a computer generated model, I feel that our human/divine connection is the best option we have. Learning to listen to and trust our "gut" or inner voice helps strengthen that spiritual connection.


I think a lot of people still immediately jump to the worst case scenario...partly because of the dire forecasts and prophecies we've been hearing for millenia. As we run up to 2012 we have to change that. We have to wake up and know that we create it all and since we create everything, we have the option of no longer creating from fear.

I do feel that having these negative predictions constantly surfacing clearly presents us with the option of choosing which path we will take...will we buy into the fear and help continue to create the negative scenarios or will we say no, this is not the way our future will be and take the positive hopeful path and create that?


I find for myself that I am much less threatened by these doomsayers and honestly no longer see those dire events happening in our future. I am continually feeling more and more filled with hope and joy every day, and I'm sure I am not the only one.

Good to see you here PC :)
DR

[WhiteTara]

44. well, I would say by that definition

we are all doomed. EVERYTHING is pretty huge, so I'm sure we are screwn. But frankly, I don't see that. I have some hope that we will continue in some fashion.

Take a deep breath. Prana follows thought. Practice Pronoia.

[Psychic Consortium]

45. ASAH talent

The responses to this OP demonstrate the strong psychic talent here on this forum.

It is time for all of you to trust your abilities and use them more. Many of you can do what PC does.

[katty]

46. I like HPH material-and I think we all know by now it is the

end of world-as we have known it. We are most definitely NOT in Kansas anymore.

[SheilaT]

47. Aren't these the same ones

who predicted some absolutely incredible earth-shattering change would take place on October 7 of last year?

If that's who they are, they really thrive on extreme doom and gloom predictions and are rarely right about anything.

Oh, and I had not come across PTB before either. And I likewise get annoyed at those who use acronyms as if we all know what all of them are.

[Why Syzygy]

48. For the acronyms ..

I often have to :google: them. Couple handy tools:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/

[lostnotforgotten]

49. They Were Predicting The Financial System Collapse - They Were Right

eom

[SheilaT]

50. They were also on record

as saying October 7, 2008, would be the specific date something huge would happen and that date would resonate down through time.

They also said people would be holed up in the hills, society would collapse totally, and all sorts of dire things. And as unpleasant as the current situation is, none of the apocalyptic stuff they predicted have begun to happen.

I have been paying attention to prophecies of doom and gloom for nearly fifty years now. In the mid-forties one popular prediction was that the election of 1944 would be the last democratic election of a president in the U.S. In the late sixties predicting that the Big One would completely devastate California, maybe even reduce it to a series of islands, was equally popular.

Meanwhile, I don't recall any actual predictions of Sept 11, 2001. Not even anything close. You'd think that would have been on the radar of all sorts of people who make predictions.

[lostnotforgotten]

51. The Time Monks Time Machine Did Detect That 9/11 Would Occur

Cliff and George have spoken of this quite often.

[mother earth]

52. Yeah, they were right, or so THEY told us so.

I was interested when I first learned about them, but they are just over the top, and seem to get swept up in the doom & gloom fear factor...it's a real red flag for me. Gotta listen to that inner voice.

[SheilaT]

55. Can they show us good on-the-record

reliable evidence of that?

[Why Syzygy]

58. According to the interviews I've heard .

they predicted an "event". I think it was Ur who said that he had not finished loading all the words into the computer program, and was not up to the "T", for terrorism, and that is why they had nothing specific. fwiw
If you read the Wilcock material, you will find that one of the Illuminati predicted it in a precise fashion eleven months before occurrence. (name is mentioned but I don't recall.. I've been reading his stuff all day)

[SheilaT]

61. I just want to say that I am highly

skeptical of claims made afterwards that something was predicted. Once nice thing about DU is that every post is date and time stamped.

[Psychic Consortium]

62. The date and time stamp of all posts is one of the reasons PC chose this site

to do its work.

[Psychic Consortium]

59. They seem to have some core truths but distorted in a negative way.

And then some things that are not correct.

Just PC's .02.

Again PC thinks that computer modeling may eventually be a successful way in which to work but at this point needs some revision and human editing for accuracy and ethical use.

[katty]

54. yes-their track record is good

[SheilaT]

63. I take it you felt you did not

need the irony thing.

[winyanstaz]

56. The future is NOT cast in stone and it can be changed or the course altered..

"You can change the whole world, if you'll only change your mind." (OmenZ)
When we are scrying on the akashic records, the images are not as solid the further away in future time they are and they look "watery" or "misty", and are often like looking at an image in a reflection of water. These future thought-forms can be altered as they are not "solid" or manifested in the physical form as of yet.
Yes the world will change. This is not the end of the world, only the end of the world as we know it. This is the end of an age and a dark and cold age it was too. There will be no more secrets.
The big change is not outside of the self, but will and is coming from within.
Whats the use in crying for things we will leave behind?
The next step is a growth/change in consciousness..and it is happening even now to many in this forum.
We each create our reality by the way we think.
Just think what a wonderful world we will create by working together by dreaming a New Age.
"Thoughts are things, and things are thoughts."...think about it ;)

[get the red out]

60. I have heard them interviewed

And the guy I heard sounded just like other doom and gloomer people. There are a lot out there right now. When you throw enough disaster up against the wall some of it is bound to stick (or be interpreted as sticking later). I am willing to listen to people up to a point, but when it passes over that edge my gut says move on. I hate to sound like a cynic but, like before Y2K, an entire doom industry is growing up right now. People that sell their information, as these people do I believe; companies selling "special" seeds for when food is no longer available (I guess a good doom guy couldn't just go to the store and stock up), supplies of food for storage etc.... I just don't feel this happening. We are in bad times for sure, but could these over the top reactions have anything to do with us Americans being spoiled? Do we jump to the end of everything thinking when we have difficult times now? Then feed off each other's fear through the instant communication of the internet?

It just seems like people see bad possibilities "out there" now but forget to get back in their own moment, in their own bodies and reality and ask how things are.

Just my uneducated take on these guys. When I heard them interviewed on an internet radio show I generally like I just got the thought, "I don't need this" and turned it off.