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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:37 PM
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Poll question: Babylon 5 or Star Trek: Deep Space 9?
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:29 PM
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1. B5 definately
Although, I don't want to take away some of the props DS9 deserves. In fact DS9 cast might have the edge in overall acting ability. And there were certainly some good stories but over all, over the course of the run of both shows B5 had the more interesting and compelling story, it had more of what I look for in SF, a true examination of humanity using the unusually setting and circumstances to highlight particular aspects of human nature, relationships, society. And at the same time provide a little bit of a rip-roaring adventure tale.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:34 PM
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2. DS9 all the way
the best sci-fi series to hit the tv!!!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:46 PM
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3. B5 is unsurpassed
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 05:48 PM by JitterbugPerfume
It is my all time favorite TV Sci Fi.

DS9 was really high quality Sci Fi though ;it's the best of the Star Trek s
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:03 PM
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4. i LOVED b5
Sadly, it hasn't aged well in the past decade. It's biggest strength (for me) was the extended story arc. Sadly, the acting occasionally left a little to be desired. I own the DVD collection, and I've slowly been introducing my wife to the saga. She enjoys it, but I have to admit that sometimes it's a little painful.

I liked DS9, and the acting was usually quite good. B5 still rules my heart though! It certainly didn't hurt that the guy behind B5 was constantly in contact with the fans. And that there was one of THE best fan sites to a TV show ever! The Lurkers Guide to Babylon 5: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 04:56 PM
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5. Having recently tuned in myself, I have to say the opposite.
I just can't get into the revisioned BSG, which is arguably the latest "sci-fi" show that all the others, past and present, get judged by.

Buffy certainly never appealed to me. The new WHO seems a dumbed down and pastiche version of Buffy...

B5 is what some would say an 'acquired taste', but I took to it from the start and after a delay am in total love with it. The storyline, the arc, the characters, the sets (terrific style and use of color), even the f/x - even if they were CGI in 4:3 ratio and could not be translated to 16:9 format properly (the live action stuff was natively shot 16:9, and the model shots were done in 4:3, with the intention to re-do them all as 16:9 in the future... sadly the original CGI models were lost. :( )

If the B5 series was de-interlaced before mastered onto DVD, they could have the f/x 16:9 without being so purportedly jaggy. (with no 16:9 tv, I can't verify it but others have said the distortion is obvious on widescreen...)
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 05:42 PM
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6. witty subject line here
I love the new BSG - (I called the original B.S. Galaxative :puke:). They've really done a remarkable job (IMHO) in making a silk purse out of that crappy old sows ear.

I was, as you were, completely into B5 from the very beginning. JMS's vision of his creation really worked for me. There were the occasional flops (Grey 17 is Missing - aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!), but for the most part it just worked for me.

I haven't watched any of the DVDs since I got an HD wide-screen recently. I do have a good up-converting player, so I'm curious how it looks. Maybe this weekend.. :hippie:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:49 PM
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7. I originally got into Babylon 5 because they were using Amigas for the FX.
As one of the few Amiga owners on campus, I wanted to see what they could really do with an Amiga.
I think I watched the original pilot "The Gathering" something like twenty times before the series (I still have it, with Stewart Copeland
went on the air. Got several die hard Trekkers to try it out. Every single one of them stayed with Babylon 5 to the end.

(And I still watch DS9 if it's on.)

Speaking of Babylon 5, check out the trailer for "The Lost Tales" which comes out on DVD on July 31.
http://babylon5.warnerbros.com/

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:20 PM
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9. You said the magic word!!
Amiga. Between that and your username, I just may love you!

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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:35 PM
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12. Wow. Never knew Amiga was a magic word.
Lemme try again. Amiga.
Nope, nothing happening. :P

Seriously, I take it you were/are a proud Amiga owner? I still have my 1200 and my 500 in my possession. I don't think the 500 works anymore, but the 1200 worked just fine the last time I fired it up. I loved the potential that the Amiga showed, and was bitterly dismayed when Commodore folded. By the state of its development, it was destined for greatness.

(And I hope you don't mind that I saved the animated gif in your post to my hard drive.)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:37 PM
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8. I liked DS9 a lot, but never saw much...
...and saw only one magnificent B5 episode. I guess DS9 gets the nod, but I wish I were better informed.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:42 PM
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10. Babylon 5, *but*
I have to say that B5 suffers upon repeat viewing; I just don't think it holds up well. Not that I'm saying DS9 does, though....

Also, I had the chance a little while ago to watch the whole run of "Murder, She Wrote." Those of us who are dweeby fans know that JMS started writing for MSW in I think the 5th season. He was brought in to liven things up a bit: Jessica became a part-time professor of criminology in New York, the show's tempo changed a bit, etc. If you pay attention, you can see his style stamped all over MSW, and I'm sure there was some stuff carried over into B5, if only because they were both episodic one-hour tv shows.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:11 PM
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11. hi fellow "dweeby fan"

:toast:

I sure remember those days when B5 was on. Looking forward to that broadcast, and adding it to the VHS collection. Discussing all of the newest revelations in 'the arc'. And having marathon B5 viewing parties to suck in the uninitiated.

Good times! :thumbsup:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 03:35 PM
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13. IMHO, DS9 was a more lasting series
I hate long arcs, and that was essentially what destroyed my interest in B5, as well as not having a way to watch the last season on TNT.

I used to run conventions, and had the chance to meet some of the B5 actors and others. Over the course of our three conventions, got to see Michael O'Hare, Richard Biggs, Pat Tallman, Stephen Furst, Robin Atkin Downes and John Flinn III (cinematographer). Oh, and "Mojo" from Foundation Imaging, who even now, eleven years later, still is lusting after my niece. (True story, no kidding!) Except for a minor psychological break on Michael O'Hare's part and Robin being a bit of a twat, the others were simply fantastic. John and Stephen were my favorites.

But I think another problem I had with the show was Joe himself. I heard a lot of stories when I was at Universal about his arrogance (matched only by that of Don Bellisario) when he was working on MSW. And he stood me up twice for our conventions, which in part helped ruin me personally, since I had invested a great deal of my own money on my cons, and without his attending (both at the very last minute) our attendance fell significantly. So pardon me if I get a little bitchy, but it's not without cause on my part! One of my favorite stories was from the 1996 WorldCon in L.A. One of oldest and dearest friends is a professional artist, and that year, he won yet another Hugo for his work, and was on the stage with all the other winners, including JMS, at the end of the presentation. My friend Bob, who is truly an eccentric, but richly talented, wore his hair really, really long, and he was standing next to JMS. Joe looked at Bob, and Bob said Joe was almost horrified to be standing next to him, and actually backed off a feet to get away from him. Bob, who wouldn't even harm a flea (well maybe a flea!), laughed because it looked like Straczynski was afraid of him. We will probably never know. :rofl:

On the other hand, DS9 had some positively beautiful storylines. I didn't care too much once they got the Defiant and started using the show in a higher "action" mode, because I think one of the strengths of DS9 was its characterizations, and the actual growth they all showed. When it ended, we actually cared a great deal about every single one of them, and to this day, we remember them as potential human beings, because they meant something to us.

There were story arcs, but they were long term arcs--they had an excellent continuity on races, planets, and history. They examined the Bajorans, the Cardassians, the "Founders," the Humans, and of course, the Ferengi. The Ferengi storylines were always fun--the show had enough faith in itself to give us some humor. And when they based episodes right on DS9, they managed to keep them from being ridiculous.

They explored a lot of lofty ideas, and at the same time, could cover a simple one just as eloquently. One of my favorites was when Sisko and Jake embarked on a trip aboard a solar starship from Bajor to Cardassia, to prove that once Bajor had been technologically superior at one point long before to Cardassia. I also liked the fun when Julian and Miles would have their little hologram adventures, and the storylines with Garek the "tailor" (Andrew Robinson).

Anyhow, just my two cents. :hi:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:26 PM
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14. THey were both good, but DS9 was better
Much more interesting characters. Sheridan's speechifying got a little old after a while. And they didn't have RW assholes like Jerry Doyle in the cast!
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