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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:43 AM
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How to be pissed off
if you're a senator:


Righteous indignation, eloquent statements and kick ass interviews?

or


Whining melodrama, baseless accusations and stomping off the floor of the senate?

Take a lesson, Ted, you big freaking baby.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:18 AM
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1. It was embarassing to watch. It's time for Ted to retire. n/t
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:19 AM
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2. Were you a witness
to his "goodbye, cruel world" speech last night??? I happened to catch it, and GOOD LORD!!!! You're right - he is a big, freaking baby.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:26 AM
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3. Was he ever pissed...
... such a delight to watch. I found it quite unbelievable how he kept threatening the senators that voted against him, especially Cantwell (my husband almost has a crush on her, he is very skeptical about anything politics, says they are all bastards, just at different levels of "bastardiness", but cares deeply about the raping of the environment).
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:41 PM
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41. threatening?
I found it quite unbelievable how he kept threatening the senators that voted against him

I wonder how many times he's done this before. I'm amazed none of the other Senators has pressed charges against him for harassment.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:27 AM
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4. Sadly, a significant number of DUers prefer the second type to the first
one. If Kerry was behaving like Stevens, may be he would be getting their favors.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:28 AM
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5. So true!
I didn't even understand parts of Steven' temper tantrum. Of what I did understand, I am incredulous that he actually thinks that a promise of two former Senators who are not only not in the Senate but who are dead has any bearing on the current Senators. That he thinks all stands are just favors to be traded - this epitomizes the worst possible values of a Senator.

Do you think he ever looks at Kerry or listens to him and realizes how totally out classed he is? (Is Kerry the Senator who said something so bad, he won't accept his apology? (although what he could apologize for is beyond me.)
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:46 AM
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6. The senator in question...
... may be Durbin. I happened to see (but without paying much attention) earlier yesterday Durbin giving a pretty good speech, and Stevens coming right after and saying that that he accepted apologies in the past but is not going to this time around. I do not remember of course exactly how it was worded but it seemed to be directed at the previous speaker.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:51 AM
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7. Sen Sweetie? How could anyone disrespect my man Durbin
I love that guy. (He's my second or third fav Senator.)

Stevens should get over it. Every once in a while, the Empire loses one. He needs to get over it.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:00 AM
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9. Hey! He's MINE!
Aren't Kerry & Kennedy enough for you? Don't be greedy!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:13 AM
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11. Ahm, I'll share mine if you share yours!
There is just something about Sen. Durbin. When I see him speak on the floor I always learn something and I get this odd feeling that he's talking to me. (And he has this wonderful way of talking that is not geeky or Senatorial or whatever, he just speaks plainly and wonderfully.) I adore the man.

So, I can share. (And Obama ain't too bad either. Wow! What a speaker. He is still learning the ropes in the Senate, but I like him a lot.) Anyway, can I have 4 Sens? You can share mine too!
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:24 AM
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13. Share?
Most definitely! Durbin is way too short for me in any case. Any senator in your area that I would not tower over that you suggest specifically?

Obama: I may be a silly emotional woman (usually I am not), but there seems to be like a light from within in that man. Maybe I am still under the influence of his convention speech, that was the 1st time I saw him, and it was cathartic.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:25 AM
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14. Get in line for that one.
I think Sen. Durbin is my height or so. (5'6")

So, another one who wouldn't mind hanging out with the tall guy. Okay, I'll share.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:37 AM
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17. I am probably...
...the tallest here. Right age, too. MINE :grr: :grr: !!!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:39 AM
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19. Okay, ahm, Inuca goes to the front of the line.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 10:44 AM by TayTay
Ahm, okay, no problem. I get to hang out with Sen. Sweetie and you get to look the tall, lanky Sen from MA in the eye and trade, ah, barbs. No problem, honest. :scared:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:45 AM
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21. Scared you off?
Good. The smilies really work!

PS: I am tall, but not SO tall, I would still have to look up.

PPS: end silliness for today :-)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:51 AM
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23. Deal. Gawd am I ever in a good mood.
My husband made the home to NYC to home run last night safely and retreived my daughter from her school. (He only had one incident, he started the car at a rest stop outside of Hartford, got out for aminute to check on something and accidentally locked himself out. Fortunately, AAA got there in under ten minutes and opened the door.) I am just so relieved today that I am just almost giddy.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:55 AM
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25. Good...
... for you. Getting out safely & in less than 10 hours from NY today is no small achievement, I think. By the way, some years back, I managed to lock myself out of a car WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING. And it was a rented car, and I had to be at the airport in an hour or so.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:32 AM
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27. Senate Superheroes
OK, you guys are just too silly today -- I have to tell you more of my weirdness. Senator Durbin (love your name for him, Tay -- Sen. Sweetie!) is definitely in my top ten. Not only is he an incredibly clear and concise speaker, sort of like E.B.White's prose given voice, but he has GORGEOUS eyes!

Of course you all know who my very favorite senator is, but my superhero senator is Byron Dorgan of North Dakota. I always have to say his whole title, just like that because it sounds so mellifluous. He is just so incredibly RIGHTEOUS. He seems to embody all the qualities of Midwestern virtue and steadfastness and earnestness. But he is so adorably nerdy! I love his little glasses and his honesty. So I always think of him as Clark Kent and imagine a special phone booth somewhere near the Capitol Building. Well! Imagine my shock and delight when, in a speech sometime this week, he happened to let slip that what was being contemplated was "not like bending steel"!!!!

Glad to see that others here share my musings on the character of those figures in the Senate Fishbowl as we see them on C-SPAN 2. :-)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:38 AM
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28. I like him a lot too!
I caught some of the press conference yesterday that had Sen. Durbin and Dorgan at it. Durbin was teasing his Senate collegaue about hsi penchant for charts. 'Nobody comes between Sen. Dorgan and his precious charts' (paraphrased.)

I like him a lot too! I do think there is a phone booth somewhere for him. (Well, he is a very successful Dem from ND. That is, as they say, not nothing.)
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:45 AM
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30. That was Conrad
They both love charts though, come from the Dakotas, and have rather unusual first names, and have 4 letters in common in their last names. COnrad is more of a cold fish than Dorgan.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:46 AM
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33. And even if his name is Kent
he has no phone booth.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:23 PM
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38. Did I hear Conrad say yesterday
that his charts make great Christmas decorations?
That was pretty cute.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:58 PM
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39. Okay, my brain done melted.
Ah, I knew it was the other Sen. From ND. I just had a brain freeze twixt brain and keyboard. Ahm, yeah, that's it, I am just done in.

Thanks for the correction. I like the charts, btw.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:42 AM
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29. The non-Byronesque Byron Dorgan...
.... (well... he does not exactly look like a romantic heart throb). I like him a lot too. Does not seem to be one of the "superstars", in my perception at least, but whenever I heard him speak I was really impressed. A smart and humane accountant (I have no idea what his professional background is, but it seems to be businessy, not legal), with his heart in the right place. That's why I was quite upset when a short while back I saw rumors about him getting money from Abramoff. Did not hear anything more recently, I hope it was nothing.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:45 AM
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31. Here's a refutation of the "smear" from Media Matters
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300016

including link to Dorgan's own statement on the matter. And I love your description of him!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:51 AM
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34. This thread has my three favorite senators: Kerry, Durbin, and Dorgan
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

I stop and listen when they speak. They can make their point without yelling and invectives, and they are generally right on top of things.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:58 AM
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35. Durbin and Dorgan won me over on the
Social Security scheme smack down tour.

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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:45 PM
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42. I wuv your thing for adorable nerds.
my superhero senator is Byron Dorgan of North Dakota. I always have to say his whole title, just like that because it sounds so mellifluous. He is just so incredibly RIGHTEOUS. He seems to embody all the qualities of Midwestern virtue and steadfastness and earnestness. But he is so adorably nerdy! I love his little glasses and his honesty.

Hmmm... anybody else thinking of a good nerd/bad nerd dichotomy? To all you nerdy Senator wannabes out there, be like Dorgan, not Stevens.

Or even better: Goofus and Gallant!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:09 AM
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10. He is so rational and just nice
I was shocked how nasty the RW was to him - and how they turned his Gitmo statements on their head - forcing him to apologize for complaining about actions the administration, not Durbin needed to apologize for.

But in the last few years, it's like a political Rorschach test - we look at Durbin (or Kerry) and see a kind, serious, clean, likable person and they don't. Somehow, they see Cheney as a good man - where we see a rude, snarling, obnoxious evil creep (who wore a parka with a lift ticket on it to a Holocaust memorial).
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:57 AM
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8. I think it was Durbin, too
Ted Stevens a)is another Bubble Boy and b) is ridiculously childish--and c)is an old "crank", and d) where does he get the notion that the Hulk tie makes him somebody? Is it like Superman's cape or something? :crazy: Are the other Senators supposed to be scared that he "won't forgive them" now? I guess he's past caring what they think.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:17 AM
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12. Also if anything - there's less reason to be scared
- He lost his bridge to nowhere (though Alaska still got money)
- He lost on ANWR again (foiled not be a superhero wearing a cape, but by Senators including one wearing a green tie - showing him how to signal support with a tie while retaining dignity and class. Maybe Stephens should find an "oil" looking tie)

He is powerful just because of the senority system while his party is in power - not because of any qualities he has. Now, that he has very publicly lost two deeply fought battles, he is probably less powerful. (Though I doubt Kerry or Cantwell are looking forward to the Commerce committee.)
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:27 AM
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15. Does the Hulk...
... wear a cape? I am not very uptodate on superheroes. And maybe Kerry's tie (very beautiful, indeed, great match with the shirt) was nothing but a subtle anti-Hulk suggestions :-)?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:29 AM
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16. I have to admit I'm really bad on superheros and thought they all did.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:38 AM
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18. I just saw...
... the ad for the Hulk movie recently & over & over. No cape, green though.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:41 AM
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20. The Hulk is not 'under-control'
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 10:42 AM by TayTay
He's pure id, released out into the world. Not a great image for a Senator to be cultivating, IMHO, but Stevens seems to like it. (Honestly, Stevens like the green guy who wigs out and can't control his anger. 'Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.' As if that sounds like Stevens, the corporate shill.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:50 AM
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22. Well... it fits
At least he is honest about it. I am nasty, fumes come out of my ears, and I don't give a ... about style and class. Let's go get some oil!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:51 AM
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24. This thread is really hilarious. Then again, Stevens is a joke.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 10:51 AM by ProSense
More drama than called for: "Goodbye cruel world." Storms out, only to return moments later to say, "Well, forget you then."
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:56 AM
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26. You made me laugh out loud :-) (nt)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:46 AM
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32. .
:)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:53 PM
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36. my favorites
After JK,the obvious first choice, I love listening to Harry Reid. He makes me believe every word that he says. And of course Durbin too--always plain speaking and in earnest.
I like Schumer when he gets on one of his rants. And Boxer is good, too. Honorable mention goes to Barak Obama--when he speaks up in Foreign Relations it's always with a lot of knowledge and gravitas--like JK in that respect. And finally, from the young to the old--Senator Byrd when he defends the Constitution.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:59 PM
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37. Almost exactly mine too.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 03:00 PM by whometense
I'd add Teddy - for sputtering indignation ;-). About Boxer: she reminds me (in a good way) of a terrier - she's so small and elegant, but don't make her angry!! She bites. :D
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:27 PM
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43. Harry reference! (Reid, and Potter)
Harry Reid *is* Rufus Scrimgeour.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:00 PM
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40. God. He even LOOKS like a crying baby. (n/t)
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