Someone from the Schiavo (both sides) Team is Lying......

[Catchawave]

I just sent this *thought* to the Countdown staff. Maybe we'll see the subject addressed by Keefer?

I mean she's dead, she's not dead? Someone's wrong.

[Gogi]

1. The truth is that Terri Schiavo has been slowly dying for 15 years.

I just looked at her CT Brain scan and that degree of brain destruction does'nt happen overnight. This whole travesty reminds me of the Karen Ann Quinlan case. Her poor parents were villified in the papers by their daughter's nurses because they stopped visiting her. The nurses were so convinced that she was responding to them when she blinked that they joined the state's lawsuit against her parents. One nurse even tried to sue them herself. After Karen died her father explained that he realized she would never respond to him as he hoped when the doctor showed him that her frontal lobes had atrophied. I wonder if any of those nurses ever felt bad over their public comments about her parents, they were truly hateful. The parents were caught between the nurses, religious groups and our beloved governor at that time, John Ashcroft, it was hell.

[gkhouston]

2. exactly, but I think Catch may have been referring to a statement

the parents made in their appeal to the effect that Terri is "fading quickly" so the tube must be reinserted right away vs. a comment from the other camp that a few more days aren't likely to make that dramatic a difference. There may be some fudging on both sides, but I suspect more dramatic license is coming from the parent's side because it usually takes one to two weeks for death to occur. This whole mess is entirely disgusting and I wonder how the parents are going to feel when they realize they've been played -- and how long it's going to take them to realize it.

[Catchawave]

5. gk.....yep....I'm vexed for both sides...

..somebody's lying.

A little background here...my darlin' daughter is a self-employed bike messenger in NYC who works without a HELMET. My fear, she's hit by a cab and doesn't DIE! Ok, in any event, I told her, I couldn't afford your care, I'd have to make you a ward of the state (of NY) and they would legally decide when to pull your plug/tube/whatever.

She's 24, and not quite ready for Mommy Dearest's concern..."whatever" was her reply too. She's never heard of Terri Shiavo, MSNBC, CNN or FAUX....at 24, she just is.

[gkhouston]

6. she doesn't have to be hit by a cab

all she has to do is tip over and bump her head on the curb. Get a friggin' helmet and superglue it to her head if you have to! If she thinks they're hot or they spoil the way her hair looks or something dorky like that, a quick trip to the nearest rehab facility for folks recovering from head injuries should change her mind jiffy-quick. (Can you tell I have a friend who's worked at such a place? ;-) )

[Catchawave]

7. I agree gk....she won't do it......

the Discovery Channel already has her on tape being hit by a cab, and she's fine. Not that this makes me feel any better :(

:::throwing my mommy arms up in the air::: She's 24 !

[crispini]

9. Ahhhh.... a cyclist who won't wear a helmet!!!

How annoying. Can you buy her a really expensive cool looking one, maybe the kind Lance Armstrong wears?

True story: I was out cycling a few years ago and there was about an inch height difference between the shoulder and the road and I didn't realize it and took a dive. Hit on the knee, hip, and elbow -- nearly broke my arm -- and head as well. When you looked inside the helmet you could see the network of fractures. The thing had broken like an egg, as it's supposed to do, and my head was fine. The arm was not so great but it got better after a few days.

At almost exactly the same time a coworker of mine who was a black belt in karate got kicked in the head in karate class and got a concussion. She failed a lot of the neuro tests they ask, like "Who's the president?" and "Spell 'world' backwards" and stuff like that. She was stupid -- and I do mean STUPID -- for about three months afterwards. Couldn't take bright lights, loud noises, and had to have absolutely everything explained to her twice. There was a noticable difference in processing power as far as abstract reasoning, concepts, etc.

I was SO glad I'd been wearing a helmet....

[gkhouston]

10. she's actually been hit by a cab

and she still won't wear a helmet?!?

Screw the fancy helmet. Buy a paddle. :+

[Catchawave]

3. Oh Gogi Sweetums,

bless your heart. I remember the Quinlan case, and how stupid the MSM was for not following up after her respirator (not feeding
TUBE) was pulled...and she lived another 10 years! I saw her mom on the msm last night stating this "isn't the same". I'm just really more let down by our media everyday....this is a travesty!

[WhirlyGirl]

4. Didn't Keith hint at this last night - while avoiding the L-word of course

KEITH: In a moment, the attempt to clarify the legalities involved and also the medicine involved.
If you believe the one extreme, that Terri Schiavo is being kept alive totally artificially, or if you believe the other, that she‘s capable of recovery, you are apparently wrong either way. . . .
-- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7266320/
~~~

[Catchawave]

8. Yep...agree with WG and KO....

...if they are parents? So we can debate the "what would we do's" if we were parents or shut up? I have 3 kids, one of each. "splain Lucy:

The kids with the "brains" are doing just fine...a kick ass girlie in NYC and a FED in Miami. The middle child is still with me as a disabled citizen. I'll shut up now, in case I told ya's more than you wanted to know ! Never had this problem during the Clinton years, oh my!

[WhirlyGirl]

11. Didn't do Terri any good -- nor *, apparently (cackle)...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush's approval rating slipped to a new low in the latest national survey with pollsters, suggesting federal government intervention in the Terri Schiavo controversy may have been a factor, along with growing concern about the economy.

The USA Today/CNN/Gallup survey released on Friday found 45 percent of the 1,001 adults surveyed Monday through Wednesday thought Bush was doing a good job, compared with 52 percent during three previous surveys in late February and early March. The president's previous low since taking office in January 2001 was 46 percent in May 2004.

Bush's involvement in the Schiavo case in Florida "may be a major cause" for the 7-point drop, the Gallup Organization said. Bush broke off his Texas vacation to sign emergency legislation on Monday that permitted federal courts to consider appeals by Schiavo's parents to force the reconnection of a feeding tube to prolong the life of the brain-damaged woman. The tube was removed on March 18 with the permission of Schiavo's husband, who has been waging a long legal battle with his wife's family over whether the 41-year-old woman should be allowed to die.
So far, appeals by Schiavo's parents have failed. The U.S. Supreme Court refused to intervene on Thursday. Separate polls by the Gallup organization, ABC News and CBS News in recent days showed large majorities of Americans were opposed to the congressional and presidential intervention in the Schiavo controversy.

Also possibly weighing on Bush's ratings slide is concern about the economy with new emphasis on rising fuel costs. Fifty-nine percent of those surveyed believed the economy was getting worse, up 9 points from earlier this month.

The overall figure is Bush's worst negative figure on the economy in two years. Seventeen percent cited rising fuel costs as the most important economic problem facing the country, up from 5 percent a month ago. Rising crude oil costs helped to push the national price for gasoline to a record $2.11 a gallon this week.
-- http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=8004996