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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:05 PM
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who is the greatest all-time player for your team?
I live in Denver, so the greatest Rockies player of all time IMHO is . . .




Dante Bichette
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:44 AM
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1. Babe Ruth
Best of all time for any team.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:21 AM
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2. better than Lou Gehrig
and Joe Dimaggio

better even than Bobby Murcer? LOL
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:44 AM
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3. Gehrig was great
Ruth was best ever and he saved the sport. I love Bobby. He's being treated for a cancerous tumor in his brain. I hope he's doing okay.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 04:58 PM
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4. I always liked Murcer
I also wish him well.

Ruth was great. He was no Ted Wiliams, but he was pretty good . . . ;-)
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:50 PM
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25. Who?
Oh, that fat guy who slugged deadballs in the era of slow-pitch. Right. Sort of like Steve Balboni, except before they invented sliders.

(Lord yes, I fear the baseball gods too much not to admit I'm kidding and please forgive the sacrilege.)
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 09:02 PM
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5. I'd say Bob Feller, Cleveland
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 12:37 AM
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6. even better than Vern Fuller?
really?


Hard to go wrong with Bullet Bob.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:40 AM
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7. LOL! Only a long-time Cleveland fan could remember that name.
A career .232 hitter and charter member of a dynasty of really lousy teams.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:37 PM
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8. how you Indians fans survived
some of the times your team put you through is a wonder . . .
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:25 PM
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9. The entire city seems cursed. Sports-wise, that is.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:03 PM
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10. you sent Dan O'Dowd here
and infected Denver
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:46 PM
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11. Well, I didn't send him. I moved from Cleveland in '79
Still follow the Tribe out of habit though.

O'Dowd was Director of Player Development for Cleveland from 1989-92, and Director of Baseball Operations / Assistant General Manager from 1993-98. A lot of great talent was brought up during those years -- Kenny Lofton, Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Albert Belle, Charles Nagy... Dan O"Dowd was right in the middle of it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:28 PM
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12. he seems to just LOVE "AAAA" utility players
The farm system has come a long way

but the Rockies keep trading players as soon as they get good at the major league level
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:30 PM
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13. I'd have a hard time picking between
Harmon Killebrew and Kirby Puckett, probably Kirby, but Harmon is a sentimental favorite.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:29 AM
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15. c'mon!
what about the eternally magnificent

Bombo Rivera?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:29 AM
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14. The Franchise - Tom Seaver
But here's hoping Jose Reyes joins him in the Hall of Fame - with five golden rings!

Mets over Red Sox in seven!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:31 AM
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16. the greatest Mets player of all time was and always will be
Marv Throneberry

no question about it
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:15 AM
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17. Ed Kranepool, if we must go there.
No one's Mettier than him! Or Buddy Harrelson. (One thing about the Mets is, there's always hope for a greater day. It's not like the Yankees will ever exceed their past greatness, even if they win 27 championships this century.)

Well no, given that the Mets are the National League in New York City, I hereby on their behalf lay claim to Willie Mays (the real one, not the nice old fellow who actually played for the Mets).

I suppose the true greatest Mets of all time are those who tragically weren't: Gooden & Strawberry. (To think I was jealous of the former, back when we were both 19 and he was making a million dollars a year more than me.)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 11:33 AM
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18. I always loved this line about AMrvelous Marv
Jimmy Breslin--"Having Marv Throneberry play for your team is like having Willie Sutton work for your bank."

I might have to consult the judges on your Willie Mays claim, since another Mational League city seems to have a somewhat stronger claim . . .

Gooden and Strawberry . . . makes you wonder, doesn't it? How a culture can create such tragic self destruction. Two guys who seemed to have everything going for them.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:32 PM
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20. Bah, are you telling me Andre Dawson was a Washington National?
Aristotle says: The Brooklyn Dodgers and the New York Giants are no more. The true successor is the Mets. Ergo, Jackie Robinson was a Met.

Go ahead, argue otherwise. My logic is impenetrable! Ha ha ha!

Or how did the elder generation of my city put it? "Hitler, Stalin and Walter O'Malley."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 01:22 PM
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22. No. Andre Dawson was a Cub.
Barry Foote was a Washington National.

O'Malley did Brooklyn a favor. Paved the way for getting rid of that eyesore, Ebbet's Field.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:44 PM
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23. Okay, I see someone here wants enemies!
Them's fighting words, Brooklyn hater. You are challenged to bring your gang to the alley for a fight with rocks and stickbats, if you dare. (Actually, I hate Brooklyn too, but from Queens, where that's allowed. If you're outside the 5 boroughs, you'd better show some respect!!!)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:49 PM
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24. would that be "rocks, stickbats and scissors"?
LOL
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 03:02 PM
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28. This afternoon, right after the ice-truck delivery!
We're gonna getcha!
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:35 AM
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33. he was ...
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 03:36 AM by LaStrega
for a while. *sigh*

He (and the wife) named his daughter Amber ... can't be all bad!

(edit: fixed year)
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 12:37 PM
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40. Seaver - Mr. Met
I have to agree with your pick of Tom Terrific.
Over the years I have thought a lot about this question - fortunately, after 45 years, we have a several good candidates.
But there's only one Seaver. He brought credibility to the team and along with the Great Jerry Koosman, Gary Gentry, and the rest of the 69er's brought us the first Mets WC. When he went to the Reds, I was devastated. Of course, it wasn't long after that Tom pitched his no-no - ours really. After 45 years we're still waiting for a Met no-hitter.
Other short-list worthy candidates IMO:
Keith Hernandez - 86 wouldn't have happened without him.
Ron Swoboda: No HOF'er, but a Met through and through.
Jerry Koosman: The great underrated lefty alongside Tom.
Doc Gooden: What could've and should've been.
Darryl Strawberry: Our own Willie Mays - sad, what a player!

Honorable mention: Carter, Piazza, Grote - the great catchers.
Are we in another golden age? Reyes, Wright (better wake up), John Maine? We'll see.

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 01:54 PM
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19. Toss up between Rod Carew, Tony Oliva, and Harmon Killebrew.
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 01:55 PM by KitchenWitch
On edit:

Had Kirby Puckett's career not been cut short, I think he would have been the Twins' best player hands down.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:56 PM
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26. Ahh. Tony Oliva.
What a great hitter he was. When I was a kid--and a serious ballplayer--I saw a video on how to bunt featuring Rod Carew. He could lay a t-shirt down anywhere in the infield and bunt the ball so it would stop on the shirt. Serious bat control. Also as a kid, I remember my former pro ballplayer uncle and his scout cronies talking about how scary it was for opposing pitchers to face Harmon. He was still playing at the time, which gives away my age, I guess.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:06 AM
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21. Brewers - Robin Yount
although *technically* we also have Hank Aaron. He played one season (his last) as a Brewer, and they retired his number out of respect for what he did for the city of Milwaukee.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:57 PM
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27. Robin Yount and Paul Molitor
that was a talented duo
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 04:07 PM
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29. they still have the Wold Series records
for most hits in one game (5) by Molitor
and most hits between two players (9), during game one in 1982.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:01 PM
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30. It would have to be Ted Williams.
Though I'm a Yaz fan myself.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 11:48 PM
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31. Greatest hitter who ever lived
Teddy Ballgame
The Splendid Splinter

The last good republican
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 03:33 AM
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32. Ernie Banks
But I also love Ron Santo.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:30 AM
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34. let's play two!
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 12:31 AM by leftofthedial
i always liked Billy Williams too.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:50 PM
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35. George Brett, without question.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 04:44 PM
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37. no way
U.L. "The Toothpick" Washington was the king of the Royals.

Everyone knows that.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:25 PM
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39. Thanks, I am sooo embarrassed for not knowing that.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 01:06 AM
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41. LOL
I'm just kidding. Freddie Patek was actually the best . . .
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:32 PM
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36. Jackie Robinson
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 04:46 PM
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38. Jackie wasn't even the best player on his team
BUT he was the best man in baseball, especially those first couple of seasons. Utterly remarkable achievement.
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