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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:01 AM
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Taking the Gloves Off
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:19 AM
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1. Most excellent article and right on!
Forgive and forget my ass....

DemEx
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:27 AM
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2. We will never forget.....
Indeed, YES WE WILL!!!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:28 AM
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3. No, It Won't Be Forgotten
Period.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:09 AM
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4. yeah - I'm pretty damned pissed
by the whole thing.

I most especially hate the vitriol and bs and juvenile name-calling hurled against Hillary Clinton and her "supporters" by - it seems - a majority of posters on DU. I'm seriously considering leaving as I do not want to associate myself with people so ignorant, petty, low-minded, vicious - and need I say it - many (most?) of whom are mysogynistic. If I didn't know where I was, I'd think I was on FR!

I most definitely am NOT a racist - my SON IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN! I was ecstatic that Obama was a candidate initially. What a wonderful thing to be able to point to for my 9 yo son and say - look - that man could be PRESIDENT!! At the beginning I felt pretty good about either one of them winning - either way I thought would be an improvement for this country and a huge step forward for equal rights.

But I don't think he has the experience and the maturity to do the job that well. (Though of course ANYTHING is an improvement over bush!) I'm afraid that if he is elected and does a poor job, not only will it mean a Republican being elected in the next cycle, it will set back the African Americans venture into the world of "high politics" - because some people will lump all AA's together - and say, "see? they can't handle the job". (And yeah, people will.)

I am bitterly disappointed in the DNC and it's handling of the entire primary cycle.

I don't think they have the right to tell voters what and when they can vote! (And no, this is not because the delegates "for" Hillary at this point. I would feel the exact same way if they were all Barack delegates.)

Will I vote for BO if he's nominated, yeah. Because anything is better than another Repub. I'll just do so with a bit of fear and trepidation - I'm not sure he can beat McCain and I'm not sure he's ready for the job if he is elected.

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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:42 AM
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5. I'm so pissed off, I can't stand it
I relate to the reference about being "personal." Yesterday, I read some jerk's response to a question about Hillary. It was "bro's b4 ho's". I don't know why, after everything else that's been said, but I got so pissed off I almost picked up my laptop and threw it.

I hate this atmosphere. I can't read anything. I can't watch the news. I wind up ranting and raving. It just makes me sick. The last time I felt like this was in 2000 and, even then, not as intensely.

The only positive thing out of this is that I have started a walking/running program to relieve some of the stress. It doesn't help all that much, but I'm a little healthier.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:46 AM
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7. That's revolting
Bros b4 hos. Unbelievable.

These "liberal" men have revealed themselves to be hypocritical backstabbers. Yeah, they wanna feel "progressive" as long they get to be in charge. Fuck 'em.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:42 PM
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9. was that on DU?!?
If so - you should alert on it (little button on the bottom left of the message).

What a bunch of total sexist (and racist) crap that is. I can't believe admin tolerates so much female bashing, but any thing else and you're ts'd.
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:33 PM
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10. Yep, on DU..
and I did alert, for all the good it does.

Sorry about the rant, folks. I have just had it up to effing here, you know.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:39 PM
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11. so it's still there?
if so could you link it?

or pm it if you prefer .... i'd like to alert on it, too.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:44 AM
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6. It wasn't until I got snotty, dismissive treatment from so-called liberal men
in my immediate circle that I finally came down firmly on the side of Hillary. Until then I was fine either way. But having sexism waved away I found intolerable.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:49 AM
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8. I'm with you there!
The boys have pushed their agenda too far this time.

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