Murtha and choice

[VelmaD]

Ok, someone posted in the Women's Right Group that Murtha had 0% ratings from both NARAL and Planned Parenthood. I just thought I'd pass that piece of info along in case anyone else wanted to use it in the endless threads in GD about why Murtha should or should not be Majority Leader.

[bliss_eternal]

1. Yikes...I wasn't aware of this.

:scared: He's anti-choice?

:cry:

[VelmaD]

2. very anti-choice

check out this link:
http://www.ontheissues.org/PA/John_Murtha.htm

[bliss_eternal]

3. OMG--I feel like crying.

:cry: Thanks so much for the link, Velma. That's NOT good at all. What are we going to do? Has PP or Naral spoken about this? I haven't checked my e-mail (for any alerts) of late (was out of town a couple of days)...

[ThomCat]

5. Thank you very much for posting that link

I'm going to cross post it into some other discussions about Murtha.

That is damned scary that our party would give power to someone with that kind of voting record. x(

[Warpy]

4. Yes, along with Reid, Casey, and quite a few other

self righteous and anatomically exempt MEN in Congress.

Sure is easy for a MALE to wrap himself in piety and throw the other half of the human race under the bus for political expediency.

[ThomCat]

6. We need to start exerting pressure in the party

to get the anti-choice people marginalized. There is no way we can let the party sit the fence on this. x(

[Warpy]

8. The choice line is one of the lines I won't cross

I will never vote for an antiwoman, pro reproductive slavery candidate. Period.

I've been flamed from one end of this board to the other. Sorry, guys, but that's how important control of our bodies is to half the human race.

[ismnotwasm]

9. Hoyer has a %100 NARAL rating

So there is good news out of the whole thing
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Steny_Hoyer.htm

[bliss_eternal]

11. Nor will I.

:(

[ThomCat]

12. I agree with you.

GLBT rights is a second one of those issues for me.

I've had to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils when nobody in a particular race supported equal rights for GLBT people, but if anyone is on the right side then they're getting my vote, period.

[VelmaD]

13. You know that makes you (and me for that matter)

a one issue voter and we're destroying the party. Of course, the people whose only issue is the war...they're the heart and soul of the party. :eyes: Sorry, just had one too many people tell me the last couple of days that Murtha's stands on a variety of issues didn't matter because he was (eventually) against the Iraq War. There seems to be a vocal contingent of DUers who feel it is perfectly acceptable to ONLY really care about that issue.

I'm really tired of always caring about all the issues while many of the people whose water I'm carrying don't give a rat's ass about MY issues.

[ThomCat]

14. True, and it's some of the same people

who were criticizing "one issue voters" a few weeks ago. :eyes:

[VelmaD]

15. Didn't you get the memo...

it's ok to care passionately about a single issue...as long as it doesn't directly benefit women or gays or minorities or the environment or *insert issue that the vast majority of ACTUAL Democrats agree*

[noamnety]

16. The war isn't separate from women/minority issues

Wars disproportionately affect women and minorities - and the environment. The war primarily benefits rich white males, and hurts everyone else, through direct killing, raping of women, dehumanization of "the enemy" ("others"), depleted uranium contamination, prioritizing the military-industrial complex over health care ... I could keep going.

I'm not saying that women's issues should be subordinate to ending the war, just to be clear. I'm arguing that medical rights AND ending the war are both part of the same issue, not separate ones.

[VelmaD]

17. you know that...

and I know that...but for a while now it's seemed that there is a small but vocal minority on this site who don't get the connection. And they are quite explicit that they DO believe women's (and gay's and others') issue should be subordinate to the war (or whatever else it is they happen to care about at the moment). Frankly, though, I'm used to this worldview...for this particular group if it wasn't the war it would be something else.

[bliss_eternal]

10. Very well said, Warpy.

I was aware of Reid, and a few of the others. :mad: I get alerts from PP and Naral. I don't know how I missed Murtha. Or perhaps I just forgot, as it gets overwhelming--there so many. :eyes: It seems there's just too many eager to tell us what to do with our bodies.

:mad::grr:

[ismnotwasm]

7. I was reading about him

And now that I have a few days off, I'll be sending him an email, requesting clarification and/or and explanation of his voting record. I'm curious if I'll get a response. His website has NO information I could find on his abortion stance, which I found curious.
http://www.house.gov/murtha/

He's voting record isn't bad in many other areas, but obviously he doesn't have a clear notion of what the right to choose *IS* Or he's pandering. Many people seem to think he'll follow Nancy Pelosi's lead, but it doesn't change his past voting conservative voting on choice.

On other certain other issues, I tend to agree with him. But since he's set to be a powerful member of congress, I definitely will make my opinion on choice known to him. He needs to hear us!

[femrap]

18. These old powerful white guys like Murtha bug me

to no end. It's not like these old farts can have an abortion. It's all about men having power and control over the women in their lives.

And AFAIAC, if these old men don't like abortion, maybe they should get out there and take care of their own kind....educate males on ejaculating responsibly.

GRRRR.

Isn't Byrd of WVA the same as Murtha?