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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:31 PM
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The Valley of the Black Pig
by William Butler Yeats

The dews drop slowly and dreams gather: unknown spears
Suddenly hurtle before my dream-awakened eyes,
And then the clash of fallen horsemen and the cries
Of unknown perishing armies beat about my ears.
We who still labour by the crumlech on the shore
The grey caim on the hill, when day sinks drowned in dew,
Being weary of the world's empires, bow down to you
Master of the still stars and of the flaming door.

(From: "The Wind Among the Reeds"; 1899)

"Now is indeed 'The Valley of the Black Pig.' A miasma of trouble hangs over everything."
-- Lady Bird Johnson; November 1966 diary entry;
(From: "At Canaan's Edge"; Taylor Branch; page 552)

Karl Rove shouldn't have bowed to the lord of the flies. Now there is a miasma of corruption about to carry him away from the seat of power. Don't they ever learn?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:36 PM
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1. we're lucky they don't learn
When they get up that high, it seems, they all have some sort of fatal flaw about them.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:54 PM
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3. Yes, the tragic flaw...HUBRIS.
The Greek dramatists knew they could take it to the bank. And it's still just as true now as it was then.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:46 AM
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8. Hubris...
Edited on Sat May-13-06 07:50 AM by realpolitik

Το Hubris είναι όχι μόνο για τους ανθρώπους που μιλούν τα ελληνικά.

Hubris is not just for people who speak Greek.

It is that same inability for Dubya to say what his worst mistake in office was. Even the Gods make mistakes.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:34 AM
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6. !
*shadow government*
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:51 PM
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2. A miasma of trouble hangs over everything.
Edited on Fri May-12-06 09:51 PM by Me.
Lots for them, a lot less, eventually, for us.

*shadow government*
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:01 PM
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4. Maybe, Hogs Are Afriad Of Frogs
Frogs by Brian (grade 2)

Frogs are cool!
Frogs are great!
Do you like frogs?
Do you think frogs are afraid of hogs?
I do!

*shadow government*
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:06 AM
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5. ...
:kick:


dp
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:42 AM
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7. more
"The best lack all conviction/ And the worst are full of passionate intensity." WBY
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:23 AM
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9. I am in the mountains...
Edited on Sat May-13-06 09:33 AM by kpete
The snow is still white

even in May.

I have waited long for this.

I know, it is not good to wish ill of others.

But, I am in the mountains

and the snow is still white.

and "Things are good" and will get better yet...



Thanks H20 Man, Stop the Bleeding, Will, Jason and all of you who have let me share in this event. I came to DU to see this happen. I stayed because there is so much more to see and being here makes me feel like a small part of it.

to a better world...
kpete



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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:20 AM
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10. H20 Man
Have you seen this, I am on dial-up. Can't download.

Anyway, I wondered what you thought???

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/05/dick_takes_note.html
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:28 AM
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13. I looked through it ....
and it looks like an interesting discussion of the recent events in the Libby pre-trial hearings. I think it is interesting that some on the right are now furious that Mr. Fitzgerald is prosecuting Libby for exactly what he is charged with -- fancy that! -- and not getting involved in the "bigger issues," as I believe B. York calls them. The more discussion, the better!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:21 AM
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11. There's MAGIC in the words of Yates. Have you heard of the Golden Dawn?
Yates became a prime mover in that group. While ephasis in the occult order appears to be on Tarot and High-Magic, the Golden Dawn was a very early attempt at equality for women, according to modern author Mary K. Greer.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:27 AM
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12. There's a WHANGDEPOOTENAWAH in Karl's future.
Following him around like a thunder cloud about to burst.

http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/w.html

:patriot:


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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:44 AM
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14. Great Link
Thanks

*shadow government*
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:58 AM
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15. ahh, WBY, and others
In what other political forum could we find the words of great poets?

and from the Zen...

Word will be destroyed by word,
Sword by sword,
Good by Good.
The sword slashes, slashed the Void
But the sword is broken
And the Void blinks its eyes.

-Jung Kwung
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bud E. holly Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 12:07 PM
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16. K & R!
I'll say it again.......I'd be just as happy to see them cut a deal with Rove if it meant him rolling over on Cheney.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 12:46 PM
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17. Maybe their biggest mistake will prove to be the utter contempt they
displayed for the American people. If they were capable of learning, history would have shown them that all totalitarian governments eventually fall. While it's never been perfect, Karl and his friends may have underestimated how attached the American people are to the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence ~ they do seem shocked by the turning of the tide against them.

Maybe the people need to periodically remind those they entrust with the job of running the country that they need to be very careful when they decide to tamper with the US Constitution.

I have spread my dreams under your feet ~ tread softly W.B. Yeats


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 08:22 PM
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18. Troubled decree
Resident mockery
has claimed thee
We used to believe
in the good old days
We still receive
In little ways
The things of kindness
& unsporting brow
Forget & allow
Did you know that freedom
exists in a school book
Did you know madmen are
running our prison
w/in a jail, w/in a gaol
w/in a white free protestant
maelstrom
We're perched headlong
on the edge of boredom
We're reaching for death
on the end of a candle
We're trying for something
That's already found us
Wow, I'm sick of doubt
Live in the light of certain
South
Cruel bindings
The servants have the power
dog-men & their mean women
pulling poor blankets over
our sailors
I'm sick of dour faces
Staring at me from the T.V.
Tower. I want roses in
my garden brower; dig?
Royal babies, rubies
must now replace aborted
Strangers in the mud
These mutants, blood-meal
for the plant that's plowed
They are waiting to take us into
the severed garden ....

"The Severed Garden"
James Douglas Morrison
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