Ben Stein is on Neil Cavuto's show demanding an increase in taxes...

[JohnnyRingo]

...For the rich!
Oh boy, did that start a Fox firestorm in the studio.

One bow-tied con told him "we have to cut spending!"
Stein told him "That sounds good, but it'll never happen".

Another one told him he was "despicable" for mentioning such a thing.
Stein replied that "Gentlemen don't use name calling in a debate".

A third nutjob 'pub says "he wants his tax money to go straight to the military because he thinks the govt wastes his money"

After the commercial, the second one appologized for calling him "despicable".

I guess calling for the wealthy to pay their share really gets these Fox peoplw fired up for some reason. Hahahaha

[xray s]

1. Even Ben Stein knows Bush has created an economic disaster

All we can do is watch the melt down because these greedy bastards will never, ever concede we are screwed.

[wtmusic]

2. You gotta hand it to Ben

to break ranks, especially in enemy territory. He's always had an independent streak and it might save him from irrelevance.

[Sugar Smack]

17. It might save him from irrelevance!

:rofl: YES!!!

[rpannier]

3. I'm not a fan of Ben Stein's politics.

I thought his show was funny.
But, one thing I'd never do with him is allow the debate to get emotional. He's too laid back (which I think is kind of creepy). The guy calling him despicable is just foolish because he loses the arguement. He got mad and ben didn't, so he looks like an ass.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Ben's a day late and a dollar short

The damage his boy-chimp has inflicted on this country is staggering,
Thanks Ben.. you selfish turd

[JohnnyRingo]

11. I agree... I remember his shilling for Buxh last November

I think he was so pro-war he was selling his country's economic future to kill a few Iraqis. And since he's so much smarter than me, I think he knew it.

We're seeing more and more high profile Buxh supporters trying to remove their fingerprints from the Buxh debacle now that the damage is done.
I expect many more in the coming months.

[swag]

5. He championed this in last Sunday's NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/07/business/yourmoney/07every.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The real problem is the difference between the rich — including rich oil people, of whom there are not many, but there are enough — and the poor. It is up to the government to redress this extraordinary difference in incomes of the rich and the nonrich, even at the margins.

What Congress can do, and should do, is address the stunning underpayment of military men and women and the staggering budget deficits that will be a burden on our posterity for decades, by raising the taxes on the rich. It's fine that there are rich people. It's even fine that there are superrich people.

But if they are superrich, they derive special benefits from life in the United States that the nonrich don't. For one thing, they can make the money in a safe environment, which is not true for the rich in many countries. It is just common decency that they should pay much higher income taxes than they do. Taxes for the rich are lower than they have been since at least World War II — that is to say, in 60 years.

This makes no sense in a world at war, in a nation with so many unmet social needs, in a nation with so many people without health care, in a nation running immense and endless deficits.

America is becoming a nation of many rich people. I recently read that there were close to 10 million millionaire households. I read that there were hundreds of thousands who made more than $1 million a year. Good for them.

But it's unlovely for them to pay as little tax as they now pay. The real problem in this country is only temporarily about oil. That will right itself, or we'll get used to it and adjust. . . .

[Ilsa]

18. Amazing. One of the wealthy recognizes that the rich use resources

that the rest of us don't need. They claim they are not the beneficiaries of govt spending, yet they forget how the military, police, emergency services, FDIC, bank regulators, etc all protect them and their money.

[blondeatlast]

6. Ben Stein? The Nixon speechwriter/apologist/Reagan bootlicker?!

THAT Ben Stein?

Yeah, I know most people know him from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, eye drop commercials, and Ben Stein's Money, but to me he'll always be the jovial representative of trickle-down economics.

We're doomed. We are officially doomed.

[Drum]

7. Wasn't it just last week...

That I read many posts vilifying Stein for some paleo-Con rhetoric he was spouting? Anybody? Beuller???

[brentspeak]

8. The moran who wants his tax money to go straight to the military

because he thinks the government wastes his money -- you mean like the way military funds earmarked for Halliburton and Bechtel and every other corrupt Bush/GOP crony have "not" wasted untold billions of our dollars? Not wasting your money like those guys?

Tell that conservative "I've got mine, screw you!" guy to choke on his bow-tie.

[JohnnyRingo]

12. I think it was Charles Osgood

Taking the ultra Conservative stand that "federal tax money should only go to protect the country".

It's just a hateful racist proposition that puts the welfare of the people at a local spending level.
These people like that because that way their tax money stays in their wealthy neighborhood and none of it goes to the poor people they despise so.

Then they'd complain that the roads are bad and crime is high every time they leave their house, but at least their army is kickin' ass all over the world.

[brentspeak]

14. Charles Osgood? The host of CBS Sunday Morning?

I'm hoping you're mistaken on that. I thought he was a reasonable guy.

[JohnnyRingo]

19. I may be mistaken

The bowtie makes everone look like him or Tucker Carlson.

As I think about it, I was probably wrong about the name.
I'll try to look it up and see who was on "Cavuto On Business" this morn.

[jazzjunkysue]

20. I heard him once say we need to put away about $5 million for retirement

with a totally straight face.

This egomaniac and Bush think everyone has their kind of money. They have no idea what minimum wage is or what health care costs.

They don't need prison: They need a reality show for living in a rent controlled tenement on minimum wage, using public transportation and sending their kids to inner city schools. They need to shop at Kmart and have more bills come in than they can pay, including their income tax.


Now, THAT's a "reality show."

[Arugula Latte]

25. I know... The stupidity of that statement is mind-boggling.

:wow:

[Marr]

9. Another conservative windbag who can only recognize bad policy AFTER it's

been implemented.

Stein is a fool. Anyone with half a brain knew what Bush's stated policies would bring before they were put into action. It's not complex or confusing- so long as you don't live in a loony right-wing fog.

I hate to see people like Ben Stein or Fukuyama referenced as though they have some credibility, simply because they've FINALLY come to see the very obvious facts.

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. True enough.

[qanda]

10. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

I guess this applies here.

[Inland]

13. The Fox "business segments" are the fucking WORST part of the channel

At least he's the smallest fool on the Fox panel. There isn't more horsehit, even on Hannity, then one gets during the cavuto, sat morning "business" oriented shit. A bunch of ideologues who don't know econ tell us that tax cuts are good and government bad, and shill Bush.

[rooboy]

15. Looks like Uncle Sam's going to get "Ben Stein's Money" n/t

[AX10]

16. Realistically, you need to do both.

Raise taxes on the wealthiest and corporations, in addition to cutting spending. It's the only way to curtail Bush's economic disaster in waiting.

[partylessinOhio]

22. Ben Stein don't have clean hands.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

23. "Gentlemen don't use name calling in a debate"

And gentlemen don't give the finger to women who say something they don't
agree with, Ben.

Go to Hell, Stein. Your time has come and gone.

[AnnInLa]

24. I want MY tax money to be EXEMPT from

military spending. And that's final.

[AX10]

26. kick

[jayfish]

27. More Taxes On The Rich?? How Are They...

going to buy their new Escalades?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12777854/site/newsweek/

Jay