Which came first? Scheduling the speech or finding out Rove was indicted?

[Fuzz]

My guess is the White House found out Rove was going to be indicted on Monday, so they scheduled this 'important' speech.

[Oceansaway]

1. i agree...n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

2. The speech might be worse than you can imagine.

The money she is crashing!

[havocmom]

3. Josh prolly decided it was easier to lock the chimp up 'practicing'

than to have to tell him his pet prankster was heading to a photo op in the clink.

[KharmaTrain]

4. There Was/Is An Indictment?

Maybe something is going to happen this week, but I won't count my Fitzmas' until they appear. How many times have websites come out and claimed indictments were imminent and all we find out is that Fitz either met with the judge or GJ to recap the current status of the investigation (if we even know that) or that all that was being posted was the Grand Jury was scheduled to meet and ended up dealing with another case or didn't meet with Fitzgerald.

The one thing I admire about Fitzgerald (and this covers his work in the Ryan conviction) is how quietly he and his people work. They've worked very hard not to leak or to show cards or play the case in the corporate media. I can wait for the wheels of justice to work their will.

Regarding fukstick's waste of TV time on Monday...I suspect boooshie boy may be ready to flip on his concept of guest workers and suck up to the racists and "minutemen" to try to get some positive spin after months of being trashed. This is more an attempt to get something "positive" or controllable on the corporate media as booosh's popularity among his base is in free-fall...the Rove/Fitz thing has very little to do with this with those on the right.

[MrModerate]

7. Wouldn't surprise me if he flip-flopped . . .

Especially as comprehensive reform that dealt sanely with the undocumented people already in the country was the closest thing to a morally defensible position he's held in the last 5 years -- of course it'd be the first thing he'd abandon for (fleeting) political advantage.

[KharmaTrain]

11. This Was A Bad Overplay With His Base

Methinks this regime thought that it's "base" was so hypnotized into the Rovian spin they could do things that would piss 'em off and they'd bitch and then fall back in line. Booooosh put his corporates who use the cheap labor...people who are his "Pioneers" and "Rangers" ahead of the Joe Freeper...expecting the Freeper to suck it up since he isn't going to vote for a Democrat. It's a game some in the Democratic party play in their "ABB" playbook (anyone but booosh)...thinking that since they voted in favor of the Iraq invasion but have a D after their name, many of us will overlook that vote cause the Democratic party's base is so filled with hatred and frustration of all things Repugnican. We'll see whose party hold their leaders more accountable.

[MrModerate]

13. ABB worked pretty well. If the total hadn't been hijacked, Kerry'd . . .

Be in the White House today.

However, the congressional elections will have a much higher local content ("all politics are local except when they aren't"), and last poll I saw, most people -- regardless of how they saw dems or 'licans still liked their own Rep or Sen.

Bush hatred -- while it will be a potent mobilizing force ("seize the reins from the wicked fools") -- won't be enough.

[MrModerate]

5. Risky gamble . . . if the Rove story breaks on Monday . . .

Not only will no one pay any attention to Schimpanki's immigrationbloviation, but it (and the National Guard gimmick) will be even more widely regarded as a desperate stunt to do anything to stop his plunging popularity and distract the people and the media.

There comes a point when your approval rating is so low you can't even govern any more. Any guesses how low that is?

[napi21]

8. I think he's there now. Reps and Sens in his own Party are turning

against him. That stupid bill they voted down on Friday, regarding Health care, would have sailed through a year ago! THANK GOD IT WAS DEFEATED!

[napi21]

6. I don't know about that.

I think th4e speech was planned before the Rove notice because Bolten thought it would help improve Shrub's numbers. Although I think they have suspected Rove might be indicted for some time now, I doubt they knew WHEN! Now that they announced the speech, Shrub has no choice but to make it! Remember, the story I read said Fitz met with Rover's attorney for a very long time on Friday! The speech was scheduled before that.

[elehhhhna]

9. har-dee-har-HAR! GOOD QUESTION!

[elehhhhna]

10. they couldn't book Bin Laden for Monday on short notice?

[MrModerate]

12. He's scheduled for dialysis that day in the Houston . . .

clinic/spa he's been holed up in.