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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 08:47 PM
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JOSHUA FRANK: Karl Rove Indicted? -- Jason Leopold and Truthout
Edited on Wed May-17-06 09:11 PM by Tace
By Joshua Frank -- World News Trust

Jason Leopold should be used to it. He’s been the target of media assaults for years now, really ever since he began breaking stories about Enron’s fiascos and the California energy crisis as a writer for Dow Jones Newswire. If you don’t know who I am talking about, well then you’ve probably been hiding under a rock these past few days.

Leopold wrote a story last weekend for Truthout.org stating that Karl Rove was served an indictment Friday, May 12. And since his uncorroborated revelation (which he said was backed by five inside sources, and now more), he’s taken a fair share of beatings in the press.

Jason, who I consider a friend, has had a self-confessed “checkered” past -- one his enemies and skeptics aren’t afraid to drag through the mud to discredit his reports. He hasn’t only had tough bouts with his journalism career, but with his life in general. In fact, he recently wrote a fantastic memoir about it called News Junkie, which goes into brutal detail about his intoxicated past and the harrowing defeats that followed. He lied his way into a job with the LA Times, ripped off a major New York record company for tens of thousands of dollars to support a coke habit, and was caught (but never did time, even though the Washington Post wrote as much). His critics call him a fake, and his readers say he’s the real deal. Ultimately, time will tell who's right and who's wrong.

Had Jason broke his latest story for the Wall Street Journal or New York Times, it’s unlikely he’d be subject to the same ridicule. But when an indy writer gets a major scoop before anybody in the mainstream major media does, animosity is sure to follow. And that’s why the outcome of this saga will either legitimize independent media, or devastate it.

more

http://worldnewstrust.org/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=3546
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 08:52 PM
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1. "And Jason, like Truthout, isn’t backing down."
"William Rivers Pitt and the rest of the Truthout gang, to their credit, believe in their boy. They are willing to take the heat if it ends up being false. But, you don’t publish something you aren’t willing to get behind, especially if it’s as weighty as what Jason wrote about Rove going down. And Jason, like Truthout, isn’t backing down."


WoooHooo!!!! Keep covering it!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 08:56 PM
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2. Throw another log on the fire.
:)

Recommended.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:04 PM
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3. I'll be kicking this up
cause I know how much some people like to see this stuff there:evilgrin:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:07 PM
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4. So bad!
:thumbsup:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:09 PM
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9. thanks for the tip and the kick
I would have missed this otherwise. :hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:07 PM
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6. You know
I do like a good fire.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:15 PM
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12. you know before today
I was trying to stay above it all, I even offered an olive branch here and there which was accepted btw, but there was a DU'er that got under my skin per se and since then I havn't been shy about dropping the gloves.

It's on like donkey kong


Also did you see the latest Libby filing from today?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1221088
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:20 PM
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14. "It's on like Donkey Kong".
:rofl:

Literal laugh out loud there.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:31 PM
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35. So did I! I wonder if that dates us? nt
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:04 AM
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36. Yes.
:)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:26 PM
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18. I hadn't thanks!
This place has moments of streetgang around the corner vibes. :)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:07 PM
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5. You would think someone who is claiming journalistic credibility....
...would have someone check his grammar.

"Ultimately, time will tell whose right and whose wrong."
:rofl:



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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:10 PM
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10. Thanks For Pointing That Out
It's tough to edit stuff at 10 p.m. with wife and two little girls all screaming around. : )
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:23 PM
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16. Under circumstances like that, you take any help you can get.
Believe me, I know.

:thumbsup:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:52 PM
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29. Well. I think we all know why that poster responded the way he did...
...You've proven by your comments that you have a fair approach to Leopold's article. Around here, that's like throwing a polar bear a baby seal.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:08 PM
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7. I sure hope...
...It proves to be true. Even better if he goes to jail.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:22 PM
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15. Everyone here hopes it's true. I'm just starting to doubt a bit. n/t
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:54 PM
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23. welcome to DU, jasonc ..........
:hi:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:56 PM
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24. welcome to DU, jasonc ..........
you picked a great time to join
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:09 PM
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8. He had a tough past and MSM brings it up? I trust him more now.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:14 PM
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11. K&R The blogosphere needs our support. Think about the intenion
behind the TO story. They are on the LEFT side.
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Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:20 PM
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13. I have my doubts about
Rove being indicted for anything. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:53 PM
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22. My Wife Said The Same Thing...
when I told her about the story. She's more realistic than I am, sometimes.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:47 PM
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28. mine too....my wife thinks I'm an idiot for believing that Rove
doesn't have this entire government and judicial system blackmailed.....
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:24 PM
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17. Thank you for this! It reinforces how I feel.
I'm tired of the naysayers; I want this story to prove to be legitimate, I want Rove gone, and I especially want the main stream media whores to be exposed for what and who they are-inept, lazy, and somehow powerless because of their corporate masters, i.e., this admin. If that proves out, does anyone doubt things might/have to change?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:34 PM
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20. I think the corporate media folks are WAY stressed about the fact
that they smell this in the wind, they know it's coming, they're DYING to talk about it (Matthews and Russert especially look stressed), but they can't, because of three things:

1. They didn't put the work into cultivating the multiple sources the way Leopold has;

2. Their corporate structure won't let them break news, or investigate, and has relegated them to being "news typists";

3. They see the train having left the station, without having been allowed to jump on yet.


My .02.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:44 PM
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21. Bleever!
:toast: Thanks, that's about how I think this is going down, and it's nice to be redeemed by another opinion. I got involved in certain threads over the weekend, and its too exhausting. I'm waiting and seeing and believing.
But those other reporters will have major egg on their faces for keeping their mouths shut. Or not! :)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:57 PM
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25. Nominated! n/t
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:59 PM
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30. I'm of the same opinion.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:51 AM
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37. They have the resources to shoot this story down in a heartbeat.
Yet they have no comment. A virtual news blackout over this. Why are letting TO twist in the wind like this? It makes no sense if the story is not true.

I do not think the corporate media is our friend. They will not publish any denials by the Rove team. That is the most interesting thing of all.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:32 PM
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19. I WANT KARL ROVE TO BE INDICTED!!!! but....
I have no qualms calling smalltime newsfreaks who go on fishing expeditions..... smalltime newsfreaks who have gone a fishing expedition. News should be fact. And unfortunately, it's looking more and more like they were fishing for the big "break" to get them famous, instead of focusing on a steady climb in credibility. The big score is the downfall of almost every addicted gambler, and it's looking like these people were gambling.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:02 PM
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31. Oh, please....
...give it up. Your desperation to discredit Leopold is incredibly clear to anyone reading your posts.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:02 PM
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26. what scoop? did I miss some new news?
tick tock, tick tock.

and no, I'm Not ragging on Leopold. I'm flustrated by how all this was so inappropriately and unprofessionally handled here by the ones 'in the know'.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:11 PM
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32. You claim you're "not ragging on Leopold", but then you state....
...that you're "frustrated by how all this was so inappropriately and unprofessionally handled here by the ones 'in the know'".

The people "in the know" have to be Leopold, Pitt, and one or two others at TO. Is that correct, or were you just being unclear about who you really meant?

So, you're either confused about who's "in the know", or you're being less than truthful about who you're "ragging on".

Then again, you may not have written your post very well, leading to some confusion by those reading your comments.

Do you intend to write a correction?

The irony of your comments is truly amazing.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:21 PM
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33. phffft! nt
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:17 PM
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27. Lying sacks of shit hiding out on Pennsylvania Ave
That was my favorite line in the story.

I'm on Jason's side on this one, up against those lying sacks of shit.

Sonia
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:26 PM
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34. Here's the key: "either legitimize independent media, or devastate it."
nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:59 AM
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38. I don't agree with this statement,
"And that’s why the outcome of this saga will either legitimize independent media, or devastate it."

I mean has Judith Miller devastated corporate media? It can't be one way and not the other.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 11:01 AM
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39. Locking. Please see this thread
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