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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:28 AM
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Bush Turns to Big Military Contractors for Border Control
WASHINGTON, May 17 — The quick fix may involve sending in the National Guard. But to really patch up the broken border, President Bush is preparing to turn to a familiar administration partner: the nation's giant military contractors.

Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and Northrop Grumman, three of the largest, are among the companies that said they would submit bids within two weeks for a multibillion-dollar federal contract to build what the administration calls a "virtual fence" along the nation's land borders.

Using some of the same high-priced, high-tech tools these companies have already put to work in Iraq and Afghanistan — like unmanned aerial vehicles, ground surveillance satellites and motion-detection video equipment — the military contractors are zeroing in on the rivers, deserts, mountains and settled areas that separate Mexico and Canada from the United States.

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The high-tech plan being bid now has many skeptics, who say they have heard a similar refrain from the government before.

"We've been presented with expensive proposals for elaborate border technology that eventually have proven to be ineffective and wasteful," Representative Harold Rogers, Republican of Kentucky, said at a hearing on the Secure Border Initiative program last month. "How is the S.B.I. not just another three-letter acronym for failure?"

..snip

Once again, anything this guy proposed is strictly for the Military Industrial Complex.

:grr:

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:32 AM
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1. Two words ..... Big .... Suprise nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:39 AM
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3. I'm shocked
Two weeks? what is taking them so long?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:36 AM
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2. A virtual fence
So if they set up webcams along the entire border and put them online,
would that be enough, as then the public would be able to see how
the police are behaving, and the real traffic across the border.

A bunch of webcams would be cheaper than a fence... and way simpler than
putting in a buch of fancy military gear... let freedom of information
do the job, and no need to spend the billions billions.

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:41 AM
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4. Bloodsuckers.


:grr:
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:42 AM
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5. he's found yet another way to enrich his buddies and fuck u.s. citizens
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:44 AM
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6. Can we all say Haliburton?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:46 AM
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7. Is that KBR contract for immigrant detention centers
starting to make sense now?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:23 PM
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8. Sure is.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:29 PM
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9. Bush Turns to Tiny Mom & Pop Contractors for Border Control
Please note, that these hard-working, blue-collar, family-oriented mom & pop contractors can't fulfill the job requirements. But at least he didn't turn to "Big Bad Contractors" (tm).

I am just pointing out how ridiculous this topic is.
Tunnel Vision is bad, folks.
Focus on the REAL issues.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:35 PM
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11. Huh?
What are you talking about?
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:36 PM
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12. For a huge job, you can't expect Bush to contract a small contractor
Edited on Thu May-18-06 12:36 PM by rpgamerd00d
Saying that Bush contracted border security to a "Big Contractor" is nonsensical. Of course he did! Duh?
Its not like a small contractor could handle the job order!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:43 PM
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13. I don't expect it to be subbed out to a "small contractor"
First of all such a thing does not exist for this type of job. Second of all this should not be going out to any contractor. I would prefer that this be done by the National Guard.

If we did not have half of our NG over in Iraq fighting a war of choice, they would be the ones that should be there.

My problem is what is stated in the artical, is that the "contracts" are going (in many cases no bid) to these guys for work that should be in the hands of the NG. The only folks benefitting are the "contractors" and the shareholder of the contractors. And we the taxpayers get stuck with the tab.

:grr:


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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:45 PM
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14. I disagree, I don't think military personnel should be building fences
Edited on Thu May-18-06 12:46 PM by rpgamerd00d
That is exactly what contractors are for.

Bush is wrong on the "no bid" part, of course. It should go to bid.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:32 PM
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10. Bend over Americans here comes another insertion.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:01 PM
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15. What Military Industrial complex?
Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon.

Dylan called them, rightfully, "The Masters of War".
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:13 PM
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16. That's what it is.
a perpetual war machine.

:grr:
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