Someone is burning up Walmarts.

[lonestarnot]

Two lit here in Phoenix in the fabric departments. Both are closed for the weekend. Stores with excess of 100 people evacuated. $20K reward. Hmmmf...wish I knew "who dun it." I'd have a party and money to donate to the dems. On edit. Don't shop at Walfart so wouldn't have a clue for the 20k, not that I'd want to know so I could turn them in either, just would like the 20k.

[bluerum]

1. Who's been smoking in houswares I wonder?

[Raster]

2. It didn't start in housewares...

it started in the children's pajamas department.:sarcasm:

[lonestarnot]

3. Nope fabric dept.

Guess the perp is a pissed off seamstress, or someone who was pissed that they accidentally sewed their fingers together.

[Raster]

8. If I was going to torch Wallyworld--not that I would, but Thank Gawd

someone is--I would start in the most flamable department and that would be fabric. My children's pajama department is just the way my twisted mind is working today.

[lonestarnot]

9. The local news said that the cameras in both of those areas were

obscured with dim light or something about the cameras, so they are indicating an inside job.

[Yollam]

24. I sure don't shed any tears for them.

Wal-Mart SHOULD BE classified as a criminal enterprise, as far as I'm concerned. I

[HeeBGBz]

4. Dang, people like to burn things in Phoenix

I remember living there when the houses were getting burned on the mountain and the arson guy did that interview that got himself caught.

[lonestarnot]

5. Yes even the sun.

He did an interview that got him caught? What a stagutz.

[HeeBGBz]

6. It was a scoop in the Phoenix New Times

The guy was doing it in protest of housing development on the mountains. He was burning nice new homes.

He did an interview. The Preserves Arsonist. Phoenix New Times was kind of a cool paper.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-01-25/news/feature.html

I'm pretty sure he got caught, but I'm trying to find a link to back me up.

edit: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-06-21/news/news.html

[lonestarnot]

7. Oh yes now I remember him, but after he was caught, I never paid attention

to how.

[ThomWV]

10. Talk About Something That WOULD Spur Copycats

Shit, there would be smoke rising from every shit-on little berg in the country within hours if the news got out WalMarts were fun to burn.

[lonestarnot]

11. what's a berg?

[napi21]

22. A berg is just another name for a town.

The names are shortened. Sharpsburg, Pittsburgh, Gattlinberg,......

[lonestarnot]

32. Oh.

[Swamp Rat]

37. mountain

in German :D

[lonestarnot]

44. What is a richt stad berg?

[Swamp Rat]

48. rich city mountain

edit: Do you mean 'reich tag berg?' (tag = day)... or did you mean 'stadt?' which means city?

If it's the latter, I would translate it as "rich mountain city."

[lonestarnot]

52. It's something Daniel Elsberg said in the last 30 seconds of this video

http://www.current.tv/studio/media/4593931 Found it on another thread here at DU. I'll be back with the thread.

here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1392692

[file83]

12. With as many cameras they have at Walfart, I wonder why they

don't have a suspect yet.

[lonestarnot]

13. See post 9 this thread.

[InkAddict]

14. God and WalMart Managers couldn't find 100 god-fearing

SMILIES to evacuate, so shoppers were told to wait by the nearest exit because help was on the way????

OK - count off and if you get to 100, run like hell out the exits. LOL! :sarcasm:

Hot sales next week for sure!

[lonestarnot]

15. redlight specials are just firetrucks in the parking lot.

[lonestarnot]

16. Oh and by the way fuck you Walmart!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. Well Hopefully They'll Be Caught And Thrown In Jail. n/t

[lonestarnot]

20. and dat would be sort of where they belong. Arsonists are a different

breed. Mental care would be better, unless of course they harm a person.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. No, Jail Will Be Fine For Them.

Unless they didn't know that fire burns and causes damage and the voices in their head told them to do it because jesus wanted them to, then jail will be fine for the arsonist criminals.

[lonestarnot]

25. Some kids act out with fire because they have been sexually abused.

So I would prefer that they tried to help them rather than loose them all together.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. Oh Give Me A Break.

Arsonists are criminals like any one else that commits criminal acts are criminals. And if there is a 1 in a thousand case where the kid was acting out for those reasons than use it as extenuating circumstances at his trial and if mental help is the right answer, and not jail, than I'm all for it. But the other 999 should serve time in jail like any other criminal has to serve time in jail.

[lonestarnot]

30. I didn't fucking say the act was not criminal.

1 in a thousand? Don't know the stats on child sex assault victims who have committed arson. Do you? And I believe it's called mitigating circumstance at sentencing.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

33. It's Called Extenuating Circumstances Just Fine, Thank You.

And I don't give a shit about the stats. If you commit arson that destroys property that wasn't accidental than you should be put in jail. The 1 in a thousand stat is just out of my ass, but still I'd wager pretty close to how many arson cases would contain a defendant that legitimately would deserve an institution as opposed to a jail house.

[lonestarnot]

34. Guess you are for expanding the prison industry too. LOL

Private prison industry no less. and on edit... not in favor of rehabilitation, just warehousing?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. They Can Be Rehabilitated In Jail.

I'm absolutely against jailtime for petty crimes, especially ones like marijuana use/possession etc...

But if you burn a fucking store down, sorry bub, your ass should be in jail.

So don't give me your hyped up spun false judgments about me wanting to expand a prison system blah blah blah. I think all criminals should have a chance for rehabilitation and for entering back into society with a clean slate if deserved. But that shouldn't come in the absence of punishment. Like I said, you burn down a fucking building on purpose with bad intention, you should go to fucking jail.

[lonestarnot]

36. Just throw 'em in and throw away the key.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

39. There Ya Go Again.

With your hyped up false spin and rhetoric.

If you actually read the post you'd see I was all for them being rehabilitated and being able to re-enter society with a clean slate. How you can take a statement like that and twist it and warp it falsely into a sentiment of 'lock em up and throw away the key' is perplexing, and shows a real lack of reading comprehension skills.

[lonestarnot]

40. Because if you knew a fucking thing about prison you would know that

no rehabilitation activities take place in prison. We warehouse we don't rehab. We have more people in prison than any other country on earth. We are creating a DNA system for misdemeanors in New York to expand nationwide. We are building more prisons than schools. And I'm tired and don't want to continue.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. First Off, I've Been There Done That So Don't Fucking Preach To Me Please

Second of all, I agree that our current system does not truly give a fuck about rehabilitation and I find that disgraceful. But then I also find your argument to be misguided. I don't think that criminals should not go to jail because jail doesn't offer rehabilitation, I think they should go to jail but that jails should have rehabilitation programs. So maybe the correct fight would be fighting against a system with no empathy and making sure that criminals are punished, but also treated as human beings capable of being treated, instead of just ranting that they shouldn't go to jail at all and should just have therapy.

[lonestarnot]

47. Ok so you offered some points on which we can agree so let's just get on

with life.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

49. Fair Enough. Peace Man. (Or Woman)

It's all good. Have a good night and sleep well.

[lonestarnot]

50. Peace and likewise.

[spacelady]

18. Hope they don't start burning up the Internets!!!!

[lonestarnot]

19. You know I thought the same damn thing!

LOL :rofl:

[spacelady]

27. Hee - great minds :)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

23. Leave it to WalMart to lowball the reward money too!

[lonestarnot]

26. I don't know if it was Walmart offering.... sounds like the undercutting

bastards.

[ContraBass Black]

29. Arson is bad.

Imagine the stampede for the exits. :scared:

[lonestarnot]

31. Don't know what the crowds' behavior was. They didn't report that, just

that everyone in both buildings out safely.

[CanuckAmok]

38. Oddly enough.....

http://www.srcpro.com/SRC_Top50.htm

(Wal*Mart is supposedly ninth place as one of "Canada's Top 50 Employers").

HUH?!

[lonestarnot]

41. WOW. I didn't know that!

[CanuckAmok]

42. I know!

I'm, like, :wtf: ?!?!?!?!

[lonestarnot]

43. and I'm like

tooooooo!

[CanuckAmok]

46. But then I'm, like, 'oh, it's the Globe & Mail's Report on Business'.

And I'm all, like, "It might as well be 'Der Stürmer'."

[lonestarnot]

51. hmmm. I would like to know if this is accurate now that you've cast doubt

[lonestarnot]

53. Did they catch the person yet?

[justice1]

54. There was a fireman from California that did a similar thing.

He was setting fires in fabric stores and Michaels. He ended up killing a few people in one store. I wonder if he is out of jail.

[lonestarnot]

56. damn bastard!

[Mr_Spock]

55. darn

I feel bad for WalMart.

[lonestarnot]

58. Yeah it's a real bidness getter with the flames and all.

[ProgressivePatriot]

57. Cool!!

Best news I've heard all day!!