Rasmussen: Ned has a ten-point lead over Joementum

[WI_DEM]

The Lamont momentum continues with a new Rasmussen poll giving Ned Lamont a 51-41 percent lead over Sen. Joementum. Sorry, this is a premium section and not made public so can't give a link, but they will make it public sometime next week.

Furthermore the three way race between Ned, Lieberman and the GOP candidate show a 40-40-13 race. A primary victory by Lamont could put him over the top.

If Ned is the nominee and wins in November we will be trading a Democrat who all too often sides with Bush on critical issues with a true blue Democrat who opposes the Iraqi War. Go Ned!

P.S.
Do you think "Big Dawg" Clinton will be able to turn Joe's numbers around?

Doe this mean that Ned Lamont has Nedmentum?

[SammyBlue]

1. Clinton needs to keep his fucking trap shut and do what he preaches.

"Fall in love in the primary, fall in line in the election."

[napi21]

7. Why are you picking on BC? He can support his choice,

the same as you or I.

I read somewhere that BC began his career in politics working on Joe's campaign back in the 70's when he was in college. I think it's fine for him t support whichever candidate he chooses to. Now, if he decides to still support Joe if he runs as an independant, that's another story.

[Cha]

40. Wonder why traitorjoe was such

an asshole to Clinton when he was caught in his lie with the blue dress and didn't think bush needed censuring for his breaking the law on wiretaps?

[napi21]

46. Politics mostly, but with a little morals thrown in.

I was pi**ed off at BC then too. Not because of what he did, but bcause he should have been smarter than he was in not getting caught!

I'm sure Joe ws trying to get votes from the middle with his objections to BC then.

NOW I don't know. BC has a point in objecting to Dems fighting Dems on reelection. There's also the point that a long term Senator knows a lot about how things work and how to get things done.

On the other side, it seems we always have to worry about close votes, and are always afraid Joe will vote against the Dem position.

Do we really want someone like him heading a committee?

As long as the Pub doesn' win, I'm not sure I care much.

[Cha]

48. joe needs to find

his sorry ass out on the street.

[Skidmore]

9. If Clinton can't sell Joe to the public, then he will not be able

to sell Hillary. She and Joe are cut from the same political fabric and this is the test for them for the 08 election.

[wakeme2008]

13. Bingo we have a winner

this is ONLY about Hillary...... and her support of the Bush War Machine...

[SOS]

51. And this poll ends her run for the White House before it begins.

nt

[wakeme2008]

55. Yes when Joe loses the Primary... Hillary is toast

:)

[Cha]

41. I was thinking the same damn

thing..if Clinton bombs with lieman then what's hillary gonna think about her stance? Time to rethink it?

[Kahuna]

44. That sounds about right. You are very

clever. :pals:

[BlueCaliDem]

10. Clinton *is* doing what he's preached, and he's only helping an old friend

out in a difficult time. How can you fault him for that?

However, if Lamont wins the primary, then I believe Clinton will "fall in line" because it's up to the Connecticut voters now, and the Democratic Connecticut voters have made their choice then.

Although Hillary would disagree with me here (and she has every right, as his wife) Clinton is loyal to his friends; just as loyal as he was to the Blacks who hold him in HIGH esteem even today.

Big Dawg is showing his loyalty to his old friend, but it's ultimately up to the Connecticut voters to decide who they want to send to the U.S. Senate.

[SammyBlue]

12. I don't support party over country. If he supports Joementum, he does so

at the detriment of the country since Joe supports a man who is destroying this country.

[BlueCaliDem]

32. Both Bill & Hillary already announced they'll support whoever wins the

...primary, so your insinuation that Bill Clinton is choosing "party over country" is really jumping the gun here, don't you think?

Look, I'm rooting for Lamont as our side's next Democratic Senator too, but I can understand why Clinton's doing this.

As I've posted, he's merely giving support to an old friend, and with Lamont with a 10-point lead (according to the latest Rasmussen poll) there's nothing to be afraid of, and I would guess he knows it too.

The Connecticut Democrats are incredibly smart, and informed people, and it appears that even with Big Dawg on Lieberman's side, it's not going to help him.

If Diebold, ES&S and/or Sequoia don't interfere, Lamont is our next Democratic Senator, so relax.

[WI_DEM]

14. I agree, I have no problem with big dawg supporting Joe in the primary

he is also showing that he is a man who won't hold a grudge given Joe's criticism's of dawg during Monica. He's a loyal guy. That is admirable.

[beltanefauve]

24. Sorry, I don't buy it

What makes Bill Clinton's support of Lieberman after having been trashed by him any less despicable than John McCain's support of * after all he was put through?

[Cha]

43. I hear ya!

Also, why would you support someone, "old friend" or not, who is destroying the country? That's like all those creeps who supported swartzenbomb cause he was their "friend".

[BlueCaliDem]

33. Yep, I don't have a problem with it either, and the latest polls show

...that Clinton's support for Lieberman in the primaries isn't influencing the Connecticut Democrats either.

However, it is showing what a truly great man and friend Big Dawg is, which is, as you say, admirable.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

26. both clintons have stated they will support the winner

Lamont primary supporters shouldn't start bad mouthing liberman primary supporters.

It will not add anything to lamont's numbers.

[BlueCaliDem]

35. There you go! Clinton is keeping true to his own advice to the "T".

However, I can understand some Lamont primary supporters' anger. I know this on a personal level since I was downright disappointed when Cindy Sheehan had decided not to run against Diane Feinstein who my sons, and myself had to write to change her mind on how to vote for both John Roberts and Scalito's nominations.

Only to keep the majority in the Senate, I have to hold my nose and vote for DiFi this November, but I'm tellin' ya...I don't like it.

However, I understand that we need to win back at least ONE house in Congress---although my dream would be that the Democratic-dominated California legislature would redistrict this huge state and get more seats for Democrats, so we're ensured a majority in the House.

I mean, the Constitution won't allow us to have more than two Senators which is unfair, since states like Wyoming, Alabama, and Idaho, for example, have a disproportionately smaller population than California yet they get to have two Senators too.

[Cha]

42. Can't understand why

traitorjoe is his "friend" when he voted to censure him and wouldn't vote to censure bush?

But, I know..that's just me. Politics, oy vey!

[BlueCaliDem]

47. To be honest, I can't understand it either, but I'm not Clinton...

...and I guess my tolerance level is a LOT lower than his, and far, FAR lower than that of, for example, Ghandi. Or Mother Theresa.

That's why I find Bill Clinton coming to his old friend's side in support, admirable.

It's admirable, because I wouldn't be able to do the same were I in his shoes, and had experienced what he's experienced, although deep in my heart, I know that I should forgive and forget because I'm not perfect either.

[senseandsensibility]

2. Woo-hoo!

:toast: :toast: :party: :bounce: :bounce: Thank you to all the hard working Lamont supporters and volunteers.

[grytpype]

3. Wow. Looks like Holy Joe is in trouble!

What a larf.

[Pab Sungenis]

4. The word you are looking for

...is "Nedrenaline."

[KingFlorez]

5. This is terrible

Let's hope Joe pulls it out

[WI_DEM]

11. I agree, lets unite the party after the primary with Lieberman pulling out

[KingFlorez]

That's not what I meant

I meant I hope Joe pulls out a lead to win the primary.

[WI_DEM]

17. do you support him running as an independent if he loses?

To me that was the last straw with Joe Lieberman. I think he should respect the decision of a democratic primary and unite the party. Same as what Lamont has said if he loses.

[KingFlorez]

18. Yes, I do

[WI_DEM]

20. then why have primaries if the entrenched incumbents will just run

as an Independent if they disagree with the outcome of a party primary?

[Selatius]

19. Joe Lieberman won't; he will run even if he is beaten in the primary

This is what made Lamont so challenging. Lieberman has nobody but himself to blame for being in such desperate straits.

[Crunchy Frog]

29. I agree with you.

I too hope Joe pulls his head out of his arse. :evilgrin:

[skipos]

49. Yes indeed! Terribly good news!!!

:woohoo:

[Botany]

6. A kiss is but a kiss

As Joe Goes Bi?

You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh.
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by.

And when bush and Joe woo
They still say, "I love you."
On that you can rely
No matter what the election brings
As time goes by.

Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date.
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate.
bush needs a Leiberman
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny.

[WI_DEM]

8. I think that Joe can look on that kiss as the catalyst for what is now

happening. It could be that Bush gave him the kiss of political death.

[Cha]

45. AW Shucks! And traitorjoe was

so damn happy when he got the Beso Di Morta*!

*Hope I spelled that right..

[Selatius]

15. If Lamont can associate Joe with Bush, Joe is sunk because...

Bush has become radioactive as far as politics goes.

[WI_DEM]

16. Bush also has a 26% approval rating in Connecticut

[Mojambo]

21. The threat to run independent is killing him, IMO. n/t

[calico1]

25. Yes it is.

As if a lot of Democrats weren't already pissed off enough at him, now he does this. That was the last straw for a lot of people including me.

[WI_DEM]

28. I agree it backfired badly

[cigsandcoffee]

22. GOP, here he comes.

[calico1]

23. Clinton might be able to drag out some

people to vote in the primary that had not intended to. I can assure you he won't be getting Lamont supporters to switch. In fact, Clinton stumping for Lieberman just makes me more committed to Ned. I suspect the other Lamont supporters feel the same way. And you have to keep in mind, this is the PRIMARY, not the general election. Primaries tend to have low voter turn out and the people who are most motivated are the Lamont supporters. Once the primary is over, if Lamont is the winner, then that is it for Clinton support for Lieberman. Even if personally he supports him I suspect he will remain loyal to the party, as will all the other Democrats. Lieberman must win the primary to stay viable. Even if there are Republicans who would vote for him they can't vote in the primary. To switch parties you would have had to do it by May 8. And on May 8 neither Lieberman nor his supporters were thinking of this scenario. He's got to get enough Democrats to give him the win on Aug. 8.

[beltanefauve]

27. Good to know

"Even if there are Republicans who would vote for him they can't vote in the primary. To switch parties you would have had to do it by May 8."

I have Republican relatives (gasp!)who live in a Republican-leaning section of Connecticut (Groton-New London area) who like Joe Lieberman. He does poll higher among Repubs than dems, after all. Nice to know they can't switch!

[Vidar]

30. Great news. Thanks for posting.

[retread]

31. How does Clinton campaigning for Lieberman play among the Connecticut

repug faithful?

[bigdarryl]

34. A 10 point lead for Lamont OH MY GOD!!

This is going to shakeup the democratic party for 08 for sure if Lamont wins in Aug. and in Nov. Put a fork in Lieberman he's DONE!!!

[DanCa]

36. Stick a fork in Joementum

It's done.

[KyuzoGator]

37. Ned's got the Lamontum!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Maybe his pal in the White House will give him a job.

He's well qualified for Chief Lackey and Butt-Kisser.

[Cha]

39. A DUer said Ned Lamont has

"Nedrenalin"!

[WI_DEM]

59. That's pretty good!

[skipos]

50. So who still thinks Joe winning as an indy is a "sure thing?"

The Virginian? Anyone? While this is just one poll, I don't know how anyone could still believe Joe is a shoe-in, especially considering he has yet to stop his freefalling numbers. It is only going to get worse for him if he loses the primary, which is starting to look likely.

[bigwillq]

52. I feel Joe will win as an Indy

he'll get all the conservative, repuke votes. Sad but true.

[skipos]

53. So this poll means nothing to you? What data are you basing your

prediction on? FYI, Rasmussen notoriously oversamples Republicans.

[bigwillq]

54. There was a poll in the NH Register

I think a Quinnipiac poll that had Joe with 51% in a three-way race. Lamont had like 27% and the repuke candidate had 9%. I will try and find a link.

[skipos]

56. I know that poll. I am asking because I am surprised

you think a Joe indy win is a SURE THING.

[bigwillq]

57. Well here's the link:

http://www.nhregister.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=16949319&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517515&rfi=8&xb=biber

Don't know if it's a sure thing, nothing is in politics but I have a feeling that Joe wil lwin as an Indy because of the reasons I gave above.

[Ms. Clio]

60. unfortunately, that's what I heard on Democracy Now

according to a poll (but I don't know whose), in a 3-way race, Lieberman would win, but in a 2-way race Lamont would win.

[skipos]

61. You looked at the poll above, right? That has Joe and Ned tied in a 3 way

All I am saying is that Lieberman winning as an indy is NOT in the bag.
I am well aware that Lamont winning isn't either.

[Ms. Clio]

62. Yep, saw it, thanks

I am actually feeling a bit more hopeful after seeing the latest info.

[Nutmegger]

58. I'm not bound by any ideology.

I will vote a clear conscience come August 8 and then again in November. Part of the problem is that there's all this "party loyalty" stuff that keeps these entrenched public servants in.

I disagree with Lieberman. I have a choice this August and possibly again in November. Like it or love it, this is democracy.