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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:44 PM
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On Israeli, Palastinian, and US violence
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:08 PM by Finnfan
"An eye for an eye makes us all blind." - Mohandas Gandhi

Over the course of the last decade, Israel sought to destroy the PLO and its influence in Lebanon and in the Gaza Strip. They responded to attacks on their country with devastating ferociousness, and their plan succeeded brilliantly. The PLO is incapacitated to the point of irrelevance. However, in its place are two more deadly and radical groups: Hamas and Hezbollah. Innocent Israelis are no safer now than they were 10 years ago. In fact, it could easily be argued that they are much less safe.

Hamas and Hezbollah have spent the past 10 years responding to the overwhelming poverty and hopelessness in their countries by killing Israelis with devastating suicide attacks. They have succeeded brilliantly. They have killed many Israeli soldiers and Israeli civilians. However, the poverty and the hopelessness have not eased - in fact, they have gotten demonstrably worse.

Now, the tit-for-tat battle has escalated and the whole world is feeling the threat.


"Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies - or else? The chain reaction of evil - hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars - must be broken, or else we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." - Martin Luther King Jr.


In 2001, the United States responded to a devastating attack on its own soil with deadly wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Both attacks began with bombing raids designed to ease the entry of our ground troops and to limit US casualties. Both attacks caused tens of thousands of innocent civilian deaths. Both wars, in the end, failed, in large part because we could not win the hearts and minds of the civilian populations of the countries we invaded. Both wars have created a new generation of terrorists, hell-bent on the destruction of the US and its allies. We are no safer now than we were 5 years ago. In fact, many would argue that we are now less safe.


"I believe that a man is the strongest soldier for daring to die unarmed." - Mohandas Gandhi


There may have been a time, many years ago, when war made sense. When armies clashed with armies on the battlefield, and collateral damage was kept to a minimum (or unreported). But now, when the main weapons of attack are not armies, but missiles (or a single man armed with explosives), warfare as we knew it is no longer tenable. In the quest to limit our own casualties, or to strike out against an enemy far more powerful, we kill the innocent. And in doing so, we create a generation or more of murderous hatred from with we can never be fully protected.


"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King Jr.


If we wish to claim that Israel's response to the kidnapping of its soldiers was appropriate; if we wish to say that Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves by any means necessary; if we wish to say that our response to 9/11 was exactly what was expected of us, fine. Let's just be honest about it. All that the above options do for us is satisfy our sense of justice and revenge. They temporarily provide a bandage for our national wounds. They do NOT make us safer. They do NOT solve the problem. And they, most definitely, do NOT bring back our loved ones.

The two greatest accomplishments of the 20th century involved men who were not afraid to respond to violence by turning the other cheek. They knew that standing up and taking a punch was a more powerful statement than throwing one. They achieved their goals without killing a single innocent person from the "other" side, this even as they were watching innocents die (and eventually, being killed themselves).

So what do we want? Do we want revenge, or do we want safety? Do we need "justice" more than we need peace?

The choices are mutually exclusive. And the choice is ours.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:18 PM
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1. Kick?
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 10:25 PM by Finnfan
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:45 AM
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2. food for thought
You raise some very good points here.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:48 AM
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3. Finnfan, this is a beautifully written piece and you should post it
in your journal.

I kicked it and nominated it.

This is a Saturday when people have more urgent things to do -- right in the middle of a terribly hot summer and a week in which the war news was so dominant as to drive almost everything else off our minds.

Perhaps it was too close to the bone for people to assimilate.

In peace,

Radio_Lady
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:54 AM
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4. I want to live
You can count on one hand the number of my relatives who survived the Holocaust. Maybe it's affected my reasoning, but I take threats seriously.

On the other hand, I'm willing to die for something I believe in. Years ago, when I came across a female gang about to have it out on the corner of my block, I intervened - stood between the two combatants and snarled, "If you want to live like dogs, then be ready to die like one." I never saw them again.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:24 AM
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5. kick and recommend
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:29 AM
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6. Followers of Greg Palast are commiting acts of violence? -nt
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:32 AM
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7. OK, I made a spelling error. Can we look past that?
I am currently reading Armed Madhouse. Take that as you will. :D
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 01:50 AM
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8. bravo Finnfan, very well said
K&R
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:40 AM
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9. If Israel
laid down its arms today, what would happen?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:53 AM
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10. Beautifully written, Finnfan
Thanks for posting this. recommended.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:02 AM
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11. Your piece is a jewel of wisdom ... thanks.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:08 AM
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12. The only US politician to propose government changes to reflect
... such a strategic apporach is Dennis Kucinich. And even DUers demeaned and besmirched him for it. It's sad that, even on DU, ignorance of the hopelessness of 'lose-lose' mutual destruction policies runs rampant.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 11:14 AM
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13. Excellent brain fodder
:thumbsup:

K&R

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