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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:29 PM Original message |
Poll question: Is Castro a hero or a coward? |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. You give a poll and preface it with a prejudice? |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Feel free to offer a counter prejudice, or make a poll you like better. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. It's still dishonest and petty |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. What's dishonest about it? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. You make a poll |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. About time you came up with something.... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. What are you talking about? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. I certainly wouldn't call him a coward. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. He must be afraid of elections and the Press. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. uh huh. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You're comparing a free Press and open elections to pot? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It's a perfectly valid comparison. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Well, a free press informs the public... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:44 PM Original message |
My comparison is utterly bizarre? |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. Are you going to explain it or what? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:02 PM Original message |
There are free elections |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
44. Really? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Get a clue |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Here's a clue |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Are you really suggesting that there was a chance Castro... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. What I am suggesting |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Your example was from members.allstream.net |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. And? |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Two questions. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Sure |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
72. That's the pot talking,,, forget it. |
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JackNewtown (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
88. How free is our press? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Not true. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. One man deciding what's right for a country for 50 years? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Again, you're making statements that are just not true |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Castro is a figurehead, then? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Castro doesn't |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 02:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
102. As "president" he's a figure head, |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. No, it isn't. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. That's truly an insipid comment |
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SammyBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
97. Should have taken the contract with the Cardinals. |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Neither - but |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Cowards don't lead revolutions |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. But cowards are afraid of a fair fight. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Is DU cowardly for sensoring posts about the Green party? |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. An independent press and free elections amount to rabble rousing? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. The "independent press" meme is discredited in the US |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Put it this way... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. That's like saying the Titanic was a success because there were enough... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. Just about anywhere else on earth? I don't think so... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. My point isn't to justify Cuba (to clarify.) And yes my DU example is... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
80. Good point. |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. the usa is 90 miles away... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. You're kidding me, right? |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. Fear of the 300 million lb. dinosaur that lives next door, I will grant. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. I hate the idiotic reichwing appropriation of the word "coward" |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. A common thief pretending to be a socialist. nt |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. ferchrissake, if he sold out, he'd have 50 million |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. "Would be" a multimillionaire?!?! He's worth at least $900 million! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. That's a lie |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. He lives in a manner that makes Saddam look like a pauper. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. hey you can say the same about George |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Who said that I don't? nt |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. Dont't you know? It's always either/or here. |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Nicely said. (n/t) |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
106. We don't pretend our leaders have to conform to a socialist ideal. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. However, |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
82. That's also untrue |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
103. "Every head of state lives in luxury"?? Not in a socialist state. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Good job with the misquotation and with the wishful thinking |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Miami right-wing idiot reactionary "exiles" have tried this claim |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. Why don't you explain how ordinary socialist leaders live? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
100. Unsubstantiated claims, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
116. Why don't you provide some evidence to back yourself? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
123. I call BS. |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. castro stole nothing from your grandparents |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I'm doing plenty here, thanks for asking. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. I'd like |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #61 |
109. "Happy home"? |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
126. a liberal! |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
85. This is pathetic |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
115. Forbes' explanation is so transparent, so feeble. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. a non-event |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. This "coward" epithet |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. Neither, really. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Put simply |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Except the ones he put in prison for disagreeing with him. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I guess better than |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Actually, I would rather not have health care... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Have a look at Amnesty International |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
119. Highest per capita prison population in the entire world. Smooth. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. Touche. |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. You're setting the bar too low. :) |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
86. They were arrested not for disagreeing |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. A few thoughts |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. It might interest you to know |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #96 |
130. Your line is disingenuous. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. But not connected to the Internet. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. They have access to the internet |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I never said Cuba was perfect |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. the castro government takes care of their people in the event |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
129. you're damn right... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
25. Neither |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not a coward |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I think Castro is terrible, just like Bush. But neither are "cowards" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
84. You don't think that Bush is a coward? Dude, you are all wrong! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Yes, he was a coward then, but now he is more of an idiot |
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dollydew (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. Castro Poll |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
67. Because He's An Oppressive Coward Of Course :o) |
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laura888 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
73. This statement lost me: |
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Truthiness Inspector (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. What? |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wow, my eyes are opened. I had no idea so many at DU considered him a hero |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #78 |
93. If you look at the posts |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 07:53 AM Response to Reply #93 |
104. Well, you're right. I read all the posts hoping to be enlightened, but |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
108. There are some that have called Hezbollah "freedom fighters". |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
125. I'm Right There With Ya. I'm ASHAMED Of This Poll Result. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
79. Cynical Opportunist |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
81. Bush and Cheney are the only cowards in here. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-01-06 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
92. why is Castro afraid of his own people |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
101. more unsubstantiated claims |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #101 |
107. The seem afraid to ever find out. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. has he ever allowed a free election |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
94. Castro knows the score about exiles and mobsters just waiting for |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
121. there's no corruption there now? |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
95. he's both |
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liberaltrucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
98. Screw the poll |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
99. Cuban army defended Angola against invasion by South African army, |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
105. An autocrat, not a coward |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
114. Both. nt |
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T Town Jake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
117. Coward, of course. And add to that murderer, tyrant, demagogue... |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
120. Interesting and surprising the brainwashing is so complete |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
122. Neither, it depends on what and to whom you are talking about. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
124. Oh boy, another shit-for-brains shit slinging contest |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Exactly: his actions have resulted in a police state. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-03-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Oh boy, you don't even know what fascism is. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-02-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
127. Castro's a cowrd because he won't run free elections. |
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