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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:46 AM
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Aussie "Muslim" Chain Mail Now Morphed Into US Xenophobic RW Fundie Rant
Mostly this is just a heads up that a slightly morphed POS chain letter is making it's rounds. My DH received this from his young adult son who had it sent to him by his mother. Needless to say he's more then a bit disappointed (although not totally surprised because of the way his mother is) that his son would actually forward this BS to everyone on his email list .

Anyway, first thing I did of course was look it up on Snopes. The first and basic part is there (and true) however the rest is new enough to only recently show up on the Snopes discussion board (mid Aug). It's right out of the Fundie-Con's Xenophobic "love it or leave it" handbook.

The following is a C/P of what DH received. The new part is in bold (here's a link to the orig at Snopes and a link to the discussion on Snopes Discussion Board.

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister
John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists
would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir
apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked
to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular
state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your
values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic
state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another
the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary
law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law
and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices
it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave,
he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move
to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told
reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values
should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians,
and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them,
well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday
by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It
Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of
Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor
do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming
to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have
recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to
understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has
served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as
Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language
and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society . Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you
should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are
happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't
care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your
culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will
allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian
beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one
other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American
citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and
voting the same truths!!

SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW!


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:50 AM
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1. They don't have communists to kick around anymore.
And they gotta have somebody.

Immigrant groups are pretty much used to this crap. Ask the Irish. The Italians. The Chinese.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:07 AM
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2. You can't have your own laws when you live in another country.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:21 AM
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3. The rant goes much farther the law....
It attacks multiculturalism--a boogie-man of nativists the world over.

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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:30 PM
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11. What about Rabbinical courts in the US?
Certainly any individual can leave the particular community if they don't wish to live under their rule, but they must except the decisions of these courts if they want to stay

How is this different than someone wanting to live under traditional muslim law ina secular democracy?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:03 PM
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13. Are you talking about in Israel or somewhere else?
As a general rule, religious 'courts' have no legal authority in the United States. Religious law gets trumped by civil law in Western legal systems.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 06:43 PM
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14. I know nothing about them, but you really know what they (moslems) want.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:25 AM
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4. Oh, the irony...
of Australians telling immigrants to get out.

I mean, considering they're a couple of generations removed from crooks and whores who were shipped out of England.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:33 AM
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5. Oh, the irony...
...of an American attacking Australia over its colonial past.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 AM
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6. Indeed.
The only country I can think of that's been more cruel and racist to its indigineous people is the United States.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:17 PM
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9. And just to add to the fun...
...I'm half-Australian, half-English, with Scottish ancestry.

"Tom, if irony were made of strawberries, we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now."

:)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:55 PM
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10. LOL
I like the quote. Who's it from?
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:40 PM
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12. Keep it to yourself, but...
...South Park.

:hide:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:51 AM
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7. Freepers are nuts for adding that bit. It's obvious the added parts
apply specifically to America, not Australia.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:52 AM
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8. I'd suggest the same thing to Christians here in the US
we are a nation based on the Constitution and democracy, not the Bible, and not Christian law.

So if you want to live in a country governed by the Bible, maybe you should find somewhere else to go.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:28 PM
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15. Good Idea!
Nothing disturbs me more than the idea of living under a Theocracy. I really hope the Rapture happens soon.
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