Seriously, what are your plans for November...

[EnviroBat]

If the Re-pugs steal this one too? Many people I've spoken with have mentioned taking to the streets. The question is, do we have the organizational resources and commitment to get out there and really raise hell for a change? They did it in Mexico recently. But what was accomplished? Are we too stuck in our comfy jobs and homes, and comfy mortgages and credit card debits? Alas I fear we have all become woefully complacent, and the regime knows it. Who amongst us are willing to stand and fight, (physically) for this democracy, constitution, life, liberty? Who amongst us can put everything else on hold and give up your job and way of life to say, I don't know, march on the Capitol? Who amongst us aren't scared shit-less at the prospect of having nothing to return to once this fight is over? I know I am, but what scares me far worse is the sinking feeling that the ideals that founded this great country of ours are now dead within us. As long as you've got yours, and I've got mine we are, for the moment, content to stay in our homes and let the systematic dismantling continue. One- by-one is the way they will take us, as one-by-one we will turn our backs while it happens. We will go about ensuring our taxes are paid and we're keeping off of the radar. I'm sorry folks, but the time for complacency has ended. This country was not founded by the hands of complacent men, and it won't secure our freedoms now either. In case you haven't noticed, there's a man in the Whitehouse who truly believes he is destined to become the leader of the planet. I for one will not live my life under the thumb of a fascist sycophant. When the fight to take back this country begins, I will stand with you my brothers and sisters, and when fear has pushed you to the ground, I will help you up...

[CGrantt57]

1. If the Repugs take this one, as well...

and you can prove that the fix was in...

Well, the only course left to those who have no avenue of redress is armed insurrection.

Not that I'd go for that sort of thing, mind you. I'm a pacifist by choice and lazy by nature.

However, for those truly pissed off individuals...

:evilgrin:

[Warpy]

5. My days of taking to the streets are over, I'm afraid

so I'll have to find some shadowy cell to join as a tactician.

I'm pretty good at that one.

[shadowknows69]

9. I hear that Warpy

I think I'd be better served in "resistance intelligence" myself. To put my fat ass on a front line of anything would be....well, might as well just let me climb into a body bag and save my cohorts the trouble of picking my dead ass up a minute later.

[SheilaT]

2. Personally, I'll give

even more thought to leaving. I wonder if I could persuade my two sons (19 and 23) to relocate with us. Both are in college and so it would be extremely selfish of us to relocate even across the country, let alone to another one altogether.

[shadowknows69]

3. No offense

but I hope your sons choose to stay and fight. We need america's young and bright to take the lead to retake this country.

[SheilaT]

10. No offense taken.

And when the subject comes up about leaving or staying to fight, there's honest disagreement on this board.

The problem is, I do not want either of my sons to help fight an illegal, immoral war. Although the older one would probably not be conscripted as he's mildly autistic(Apserger's Syndrome) but the younger one is exactly the kind of physically and mentally tough young male that makes a good soldier. He's not real keen on obeying authority figures, so that could get him drummed out pretty quickly.

But I honestly think we have years and years left before things will start to get better, and I don't know if it's really worth it. I believe that this country is past its prime, although there are as yet no logical successors (think Rome about 350AD) and we're going to be the giant bloated bully on the block for a whole lot longer. I'm not predicting an actual Dark Ages, but it seems that there are some good parallels. In short, it's time to get out as far as I'm concerned.

[shadowknows69]

4. And I will stand with you EnviroBat

I've always said on here and warned my wife if things go south after November then I aim to misbehave. I can't promise I can lead what comes after that but I will follow a good man or woman to any end that results in the restoration of our Constitution.

[Totallybushed]

6. One way that

always makes the papers. Withhold your income taxes. This always gets their attention, and the publicity. You'll get a chance to explain why it was necessary, and why it's a matter of principle.

I'll be rooting for you, but you will be a better man than me.

[muesa]

7. Take 101 North

[shadowknows69]

8. The only place I would ever consider moving to

outside my own country is Canada. For reasons having nothing to do with our country I've just always loved it. If I were to go there during our current and future crisis it would only be to join the resistance army.

[QuestionAll...]

11. hey shadow.

I could have an extra couch waiting for you. ;)