All; Hell Breaking Loose in Oaxaca Now!

[Wiley50]

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From Nancy Davies:

The plan to surround the zocalo went without incident until the PFP started shooting tear gas. I saw shooters on the roof earlier in the afternoon. According to the radio at 5:15 PM, the attacks were provoked by PRI in plain clothes. I also saw a lot of people hanging around who did not look like the APPO, i.e., they wereyoung, punk, mostly drunk and carrying bottles.
The APPO are asking for assistance to confront the attacks, allegedly by ministerial police and plainclothes municipal police.

Those who can alert foreign press might do that right now.

[babsbunny]

1. Here's some more news..........

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2. K & R...

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[MoseyWalker]

3. babelfish translation from your provided link

most recent:

It follows the confrontation with gas, stones and cohetones and extends Garci'a Vigil. 17:05 After a tense calm, confrontations and much gas sent by the PFP in the walking turistico are reported.

[Wiley50]

5. Yeah Man, That's how I've gotta do it right now

Sooner or later my 2 years of HS spanish will kick in

[file83]

8. Here is the "English Report" from Radio Universidad de Oaxaca...

http://1400am.radiolivre.org/node/12

English Report.
Enviado por zombi el Dom, 2006-11-26 06:25.

This is a short resume of the events during november 25th in Oaxaca.



Today, after the seventh Megamarch in Oaxaca, members of the APPO attempted to form a human fence around the federal preventative police (PFP), but were attacked with gas. This unleashed a series of clashes with violence again igniting in the city . Many have been arrested and there are reports of many wounded, some by gunfire.

Today the Popular Assembly of the People of Oaxaca convoked the seventh megamarch in Oaxaca. The march unfolded in a festive atmosphere until it reached downtown. There began the attempt to form a human fence around the forces of the PFP in Oaxaca's Zocalo. But soon after groups of priístas started provoking the people with insults and shooting slingshots with marbles. Later, the PFP began using tear gas. People started to withdraw, but police kept moving forward and then began the riot. Shooting off of tear gas, police kept charging on. People tried to resist in a peaceful way, but couldn`t stand up against tear gas. The people began to defend themselves with rockets, home made bombs and stones.

The situation became very tense toward the north of the downtown where the police attempted to suuround the protesters. At some point, the PFP entered Santo Domingo, which is occupied by an APPO encampment, and then set fire to the camp. Many fires started throughout the city, provoked by saboteurs. A bus near the University City, a door of the Hotel Camino Real
and then the legislative palace and external relationships buildings were all set aflame.

The police started using gunfire. They also shot the gas cans at the protestors. This practice has killed people before in Oaxaca on Nov. 2 and in other places like Atenco. The Radio Universidad had to make a general call to withdraw and to get off the streets. Three people were shot by police from two pickup trucks using heavy gunfire, this happened near the College of Medicine. The reports indicate more than one hundred shots made. The police took two peolpe on to the trucks and lef the third one lying on the ground. Early reports indicate that this person could be death. Until now midnight, this information has not been confirmed.

Near a place known as El Pochote, a big group of people were surrounded by the police. Also in the streets of Fiallo y Colón, a big number of teachers and workers of the health department were detained and removed in two buses. In another point, also near the north of downtown, several reports indicate that there were massive arrests of up to thirty people which were attacked with gas after being detained. In a place called El Fortin, witnesses report how police were beating up and torturing detained ones before moving them from the spot aboard pickup trucks. Radio Universidad keeps transmitting and making announcements and denunciations.

The pacific mobilization received an attack from the federal police with gases and gunfire. Then protesters faced a wave of represion by armed police officers and paramilitary which resulted in the deaths of three people, many injured individuals, more than 60 detained protesters and innocent bystanders and an unknown number of disappeared people. The numbers are increasing because violence and represion has not ceased in the streets of Oaxaca.

[Wiley50]

9. VERY INTERESTING ANALYSIS by member of OSAG

My own two cents: Analysis of yesterdays events, and after reading
today's La Jornada,,,

I'd like to focus attention of the pattern of attacks, the configuration
of people, the behavior of the feds, and other events of yesterdays
battles, and congeal them into a coherent analysis. First some
corrections....

Instead of the Oaxacan legislative buildings and External Relations
buildings being burned as I reported, those buildings or offices that
were on fire were: the Poder Judicial Federal (federal judicial power,
ie federal courts), Tribunal Superior de Justicia del Estado (Superior
Court of the State), El Teatro Juarez (the Juarez theatre, and used to
be the seat of the State Congress), La Secretaria de Turismo de la
Entidad (the Ministry of state tourism), and different commercial
establishments...

Those buildings damaged were: the Relaciones Exteriores (various federal
offices of the foreign relations ministry), the Registro Publico de la
Propiedad (public Registrar of Property), Facultad de Sociologia de
UABJO (Sociology Faculty building), La Asociacion Mexicana de Hoteles y
Moteles (State chapter of the Mex Association of Hotels and Motels).

Plus El Hotel Camino Real, and two big houses suffered minor damage from
molotov cocktails.

And yesterdays reports that there were 8 trucks leaving the 28th Zone
Military Base for the zocalo, never was confirmed and obviously never
arrived at their supposed destination (unless they are there right now,
and I have yet to hear it). However, today La Jornada reports that at
11pm last night there were attacks at the 28th Zone Military base by
unknown assailants. And last night there was an indirect warning from
the Interior Ministry, thru Church officials, to RU or APPO reps (no
sure which) that was duly reported by RU. However, according to todays
news, no direct message was transmitted to APPO negotiators by the
Interiror Ministry, and unlike the last big confrontation (Nov 1 or 2)
where Fox and Abascal convened an emergency cabinet level meeting in DF,
this time they continued to attend a frivolous Guanajuato goodbye
luncheon (with no urgency of leaving for DF, and convening cabinet).

Also there were eye witness reports that before the battles started
there were strange civilian characters congregating in distinct groups,
distinct from other demonstrators, in and around the zocalo, and
distinct from the young people (anarcho punkers, for lack of a better
word), and others who were a part of the mega march. And it was reported
today that during the back and forth battles between APPO and the PFP,
in and around Santo Domingo church, some of these civilians were chasing
and shooting at people running away from Santo Domingo, away from the
PFP.

Meanwhile, the ordinary federal forces, the PFP, the state ministerial
police, and their commanders, IMO seemed to have been unawares of all
the actors involved and played their predictable roles. And after the
military base was attacked, is when there were reports/rumours spread of
them leaving their bases...

Of course, today's headline of the Milenio newspaper suggested, well,
explicitly accused the APPO for everything that transpired yesterday,
and no doubt the official intl newswires will parrot this
interpretation.

However, I think what La Jornada journalists are suggesting, without
actually saying it, and what others suspected yesterday, is that an
unseen hand was at work. That unseen hand was the premeditated
preparations of the state and/or fed priistas in anticipation of the
megamarch. I'll even go so far as to say that the federal govt was
either involved or were informed of these plans. The reason La Jornada
doesnt explicitly accuse priistas, is because as they present the
infromation, above portrayed, is that it is an obvious conclusion (at
least in mexico) by the way priistas have behaved in the past.

So if we look at the targets, buildings and institutions, that were
attacked, we see a tendency to the federal targets, rather than state.
Why would that be suspicious? Because the state priistas know that
provoking the feds, gets their attention, and the more probability of a
strong reaction. Of course the priistas want the reaction to be against
the APPO, and not themselves. The other interesting target is the Motela
nd hotel association, and certain commercial establishments. It is
fairly well known that business people are vulnerable because of their
substantial investments, and it is fairly well known that the local
priista establishment know which businesses need further convincing of
either their support, or their quiet acquiesance. The blatant attack on
the military base is an obvious provocation, to create more repression
againt the APPO, as APPO would be their obvious target, if and when they
entered the fray on the streets...

The local PRI establishemnts are conniving SOBs whether they feel
threatened or when it is business as usual, and like I have said, they
have alot of statewide resources and organizational capacity, and should
not be underestimated at the extent of their complicity and autonomous
initiative (as in, for their own interests and independent of the
federal arm of the party, and beyond federal govt control). That doesnt
mean the feds dont know this, but themselves manipulate these local
establishments for their own ends...

Yesterdays events were a classic revelation of Mexican social reality...

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