FDR or TR?

[Tiggeroshii]

Poll question: FDR or TR?

In 2008, if faced with the choice between the late former president, Teddy Roosevelt and the late former president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who would you choose?

[cool user name]

1. Neither ...

[Tiggeroshii]

2. why?

Cause they're dead? :eyes:

[Swede]

3. Maybe there's some President Roosevelt we don't know about?

:shrug:

[cool user name]

4. No ... because I don't like assholes.

They are both assholes so I picked "neither."

Unless you like bigots, colonialists, and people who will intern others then you should probably pick "neither" too.

[jhrobbins]

5. Actually, I like both of them and all things considered...

they did the best they could given the times they lived in. Yes, FDR was a jerk when he interned the Japanese, but he admitted his mistake - at least he could do that, unlike some of our more recent monar... uh presidents.

[Mythsaje]

6. Hmmm...

Teddy--one of the first environmentalists, big anti-trust and anti-corruption warrior. Colonialist, war hawk.

Franklin--Gave us the New Deal. Interned the Japanese Americans. Helped get us through the Depression.

Could we just have someone that personifies the best of both of them and nothing of the worst?

[cool user name]

7. That would be nice ... but both were pricks.

[Warpy]

8. If you want flawless saints

I suggest a Catholic church full of plaster ones.

Everybody is flawed and when they get into power, those flaws are greatly magnified.

Sometimes it's not easy to measure the good a powerful man does next to the evil he's done.

Both Roosevelts came out on the good side of the balance. Too bad none of it has survived the asshole we have in there now.

[Mythsaje]

9. I finished your subject line in my head

as "you're on the wrong damn planet and part of the wrong damn race."

[Warpy]

10. HAHA!

I sympathise, really, I felt like that when I was in my early 20s.

[Mythsaje]

11. I've never really had any real-life heroes...

because I think I realized from an early age that EVERYONE was flawed. I alway slooked up to my father, but I realize that he was as flawed as anyone ever was, and that pretty much told me everything I needed to know.

We idolize people and then fee let down because they don't live up to some picture we've built up in our minds.

People can do great things and still have human weaknesses and make mistakes. Neither the good nor the bad are the sum total of who they are.