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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:08 AM
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Poll question: Impeachment poll. Let us focus, yet again.
Pick the statement you agree with the most.

#1- George W. Bush is the be-all and end-all of evil. He, and he alone, is the mastermind of the crimes committed by the Bush Administration against our country. His presence in the White House is the sole cause of the vast majority of our country's problems today. As such, despite only having two years left in his term, and facing a Democratic Congress, he must be impeached and removed from office.

#2- The highest members of the Bush Administration are the be-all and end-all of evil. They are the collective masterminds of the crimes committed against our country. None of this would have ever happened had it not been for the actions and ideas of this small group of people. They alone have exerted their will over and poisoned the American people. As such, they must all be removed from office and jailed, despite only having two years of power left. Once they are made as an example of justice, we can rest assured that our Constitution will never be violated by the executive branch and we will never wage war against a country posing no threat to us again.

#3- The Bush Administration is only a symptom of a much, much larger problem in our country today. While seeing them removed from office and perhaps jailed before 2008 would be immensely satisfying on an emotional level, it does not address the causes of the issues we face. In fact, being that aggressive toward particular people who are really just members of a much larger, corporate machine is liable to be counterproductive and act as a wedge issue, while conveying very little benefit to the country itself. Investigations into the goings-on of the past six years are necessary in that the inner-workings of the corporate control over America will only be sufficiently exposed by doing so. However, after exposing that corruption, the Democrats must work on passing legislation to stop it from continuing. Then, and only then, will faith in our government return to us. This will not be accomplished if our representatives and the media are distracted by the incidental personalities who took advantage of our system, who, in any case, if impeached and removed as the sole bad apples in the eyes of Americans, would only be acting as stool pigeons, taking the fall in lieu of the much bigger corporate animal we face, which would, in turn, be able to continue on in its corruption of our society. However, once Democrats take such power that will allow them to fully (or almost fully) eliminate the corporate corruption and cronyism driving our policies today, the Bush Administration should be held criminally accountable for the crimes they commited against our country and the world.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:16 AM
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1. #4 Debreidement of the infected body politic.
While the Bush administration is certainly emblematic of a larger problem in this country, one must expose it to oxygen and betadine if it is to be healed.

Likewise impeachment for political offenses, and war crime tribunal for crimes against humanity. Then that nasty little problem with FISA needs to be addressed...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:19 AM
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2. I'll vote for that.
;)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:21 AM
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3. Right, like #3 said, it has to be exposed.
But, once exposed, we're not going to be allowed to go down two different paths, simultaneously. We either have to go after the Bush Administration itself, with the ensuing media circus, or we can address what allowed them to do what they did.

To me, what's important is actually making sure nothing like this happens again. Impeaching a particular group of people isn't going to do that. You have to create laws to stop them from getting into these types of positions where they control everything.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:11 AM
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4. Where I differ is I believe that you do not
have a binary decision here.
You restore vitality to checks and balances by asserting them. You validate due process by employing it.
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