Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Congress demands answers on anthrax

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:06 PM
Original message
Congress demands answers on anthrax
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/nation/16222130.htm

JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Thirty-three members of Congress have written Attorney General Alberto Gonzales demanding that the FBI update lawmakers on the investigation into the anthrax attacks five years ago that paralyzed the nation with bio-terror fears.

The bipartisan letter escalates efforts by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., to get the FBI to tell lawmakers what it has learned during the five-year case that remains unsolved. The FBI has refused, citing concerns about possible leaks.

The lawmakers said any leakers of prior information about the anthrax case inside the FBI or Congress should be punished but that such concerns do not justify keeping information from lawmakers so they could perform their required oversight of the FBI's performance.

The case remains unsolved five years later.

"As an institution, Congress cannot be cut-off from detailed information about the conduct of one of the largest investigations in FBI history," the lawmakers wrote. "That information is vital in order to fulfill its Constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight."

The letter is signed by members of both parties and members of both chambers of Congress including the outgoing chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, the panel's top Democrat and its next chairman, was one of the targets of the attacks in fall of 2001, getting an anthrax-filled letter sent to his office.



TERRIFIED YET GEORGIE?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:09 PM
Response to Original message
1. I've been wondering why Gonzo has been missing lately.
Is he afraid that someone is going to finally question is qualifications or his law school records. I have a hard time believing that this buttwipe passed the bar exam.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:10 PM
Response to Original message
2. we'd all like to know nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
3. GRASSLEY CALLS ON FBI TO PROVIDE BRIEFING, DOCUMENTS ON UNSOLVED ANTHRAX CASE
http://www.senate.gov/~grassley/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=5205&Month=10&Year=2006

GRASSLEY CALLS ON FBI TO PROVIDE BRIEFING, DOCUMENTS ON UNSOLVED ANTHRAX CASE

WASHINGTON – After years of dead-ends and a lack of progress in the FBI’s search for the person(s) who targeted members of Congress with a deadly strain of anthrax, Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa has requested a full briefing and a number of documents related to the case. Grassley requested the information through a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.


“I’m afraid the anthrax investigation may be a symptom of a larger problem at the FBI. The agency’s lack of response to Congressional requests for a briefing and what appears to be little progress in the investigation leads me to question whether the culture has really changed,” Grassley said. “There are numerous and serious questions that need to be answered about both the investigation itself and how the FBI has handled it. The FBI’s refusal to brief Congress over the last several years is an outrageous response to reasonable requests at getting to the bottom of the attacks.”



Grassley's oversight of the FBI began in the early 1990's. He has focused on the FBI’s internal disciplinary problems in recent years after revelations of senior officials committing misconduct and escaping accountability through a double standard in discipline. He's also been concerned with the FBI's inability to prevent crime and terrorism rather than just investigating crimes after they have occurred. Grassley was concerned about classifying people as “persons of interest” since the Department of Justice first labeled Hatfill several years ago.



Here is a copy of Grassley’s letter to Gonzales. A copy of the actual letter can be found by clicking here.



Monday, October 23, 2006



The Honorable Alberto Gonzales

Attorney General

United States Department of Justice

950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20535



Dear General Gonzales:



Five years ago, on October 15, 2001, a letter laced with anthrax and addressed to Senator Tom Daschle was opened, and Congress became one of the targets in the first bio-terrorist attack on the United States. In the wake of 9/11, the anthrax letters took the lives of five more Americans and infected another 17. The FBI took primary responsibility for investigating the attacks and has expended hundreds of thousands of hours on it in the past five years. Yet, it appears from publicly available information that despite all those resources, the FBI has little in the way of results to show for its work.



According to public reports, the head of the FBI’s investigation, Richard Lambert, was recently transferred to the FBI’s Knoxville, Tennessee office following the completion of a comprehensive report prepared for the U.S. Attorney’s office in charge of the case. This raises questions about why he was replaced, the focus of the FBI’s investigation under his leadership, and whether that focus shifted following the report and the assignment of new leadership to the case. There have also been suggestions in the press that scientific advances have shown that the anthrax spores were less-sophisticated than was originally believed, and that this may have caused the focus on potential suspects to be too narrow for too long.



While this is all troubling, I am concerned that a detailed examination of the FBI’s handling of the anthrax case may point to deeper issues than just lack of progress on a difficult, if not impossible-to-solve whodunit. Those issues include (1) the FBIs institutional resistance to criticism and dissent, (2) the challenges of integrating law enforcement and domestic intelligence gathering functions into one agency, (3) the misallocation of resources toward protecting the FBI’s image first and foremost, rather than protecting the United States, and (4) the FBI’s unwillingness to submit to oversight by the elected representatives of the American people. Perhaps an independent review would show that the public version of events that leads to my concern about these issues is not accurate or that the reality is less alarming than the perception. However, in order to find out, there must be independent Congressional review of the FBI’s actions.



Many of the resources devoted to the anthrax investigation over the last five years were aimed at attempting to prove that Dr. Stephen Hatfill was involved in the attacks. Congress ought to know exactly what the price tag on those efforts has been. I have previously expressed my concern over the Justice Department’s unprecedented use of the term “person of interest” to cast suspicion on an individual citizen without any formal policy or evidentiary standard. I have also previously expressed concern over the Justice Department’s actions in orchestrating the firing of Dr. Hatfill from his employment with Louisiana State University, where he was training first responders.



As you know, Dr. Hatfill is suing the Justice Department, alleging that in an effort to counter the perception that it was incapable of solving the case, the FBI “intentionally and willfully leaked to innumerable reporters” information about investigative interest in him. He alleges that these leaks have “numbered in the hundreds since 2002 and have continued even into <2005>.” In particular, within minutes of Dr. Hatfill giving his consent to the FBI to search his apartment, the building was surrounded by reporters, camera crews, and helicopters from the news media. The complaint in his lawsuit alleges that “According to one FBI agent on site at the time,” cameras arrived so quickly that “it was obvious that they had been tipped off<.>” Of the many searches of scientists’ homes, the lawsuit alleges that, “this was the first time that the name of any of these scientists had been purposefully leaked to the media.” Instead of making any serious effort to identify and punish the FBI officials for leaking investigative information, the lawsuit alleges that on one occasion, Director Mueller actually reprimanded an FBI official for suggesting that it might have been inappropriate for Attorney General Ashcroft to publicly name Hatfill as a “person of interest.”



In light of all this, I was shocked to see press reports that the FBI recently announced a blanket prohibition on any further anthrax briefings to Congress. In response to a letter from Congressman Rush Holt requesting a classified briefing before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the FBI’s Assistant Director for Congressional Affairs flatly refused. She wrote, “After sensitive information about the investigation citing Congressional sources was reported in the media, the Department of Justice and the FBI agreed that no additional briefings to Congress would be provided.” The implication is clear: “We won’t brief you because you will leak.”



This is an outrageous response to a legitimate oversight request from Congress. Given the allegations about FBI leaks related to Stephen Hatfill and its similar leaks related to Richard Jewell in the Centennial Park Bombing Case, for the FBI to withhold information from Congress for fear of leaks seems a bit hypocritical, to say the least.



The harm caused by the alleged FBI leaks was to instigate a media frenzy and cast suspicion on an individual citizen entitled to the presumption of innocence. What was the harm of the alleged Congressional leak? The FBI’s letter doesn’t say. However, if some individual did act inappropriately by speaking to the media about an FBI briefing, stiff-arming Congress on all future requests is an unacceptable overreaction. The FBI doesn’t become exempt from scrutiny just because there may have been an inappropriate disclosure by someone on Capitol Hill. If that happened, the FBI should prove it and the individuals involved should be held accountable, but the institution of Congress has a vital and continuing need for detailed information about the conduct of one of the largest investigations in FBI history.



The FBI’s letter also stated, “Since we regard this as a criminal law enforcement matter, rather than an intelligence activity, a briefing would not be appropriate<.>” Why isn’t it both? The failure of the FBI to treat the case as both a criminal and intelligence matter illustrates how far the FBI is from understanding its core post-9/11 mission. In order to effectively integrate the law enforcement and intelligence gathering functions, all law enforcement matters must be viewed as potential sources of valuable intelligence. This is especially true for a case the size and scope of Amerithrax. Since the FBI investigation is cloaked in grand jury secrecy, it is unclear to what extent the vast amount of information it must have gathered in the last five years is being shared with the rest of the intelligence community. Congress needs to have a better understanding of this issue in order to assess the effectiveness of its post-9/11 legislation, such as the USA PATRIOT Act, the Homeland Security Act, and the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act.



For all these reasons, I request that you direct the FBI to provide a comprehensive briefing on the status of the anthrax investigation to all interested Congressional committees. In preparation for that briefing, please provide: (1) a copy of the comprehensive report prepared for the U.S. Attorney’s office prior to the recent replacement of the lead FBI investigator, (2) any and all final reports and/or closing memoranda of the DOJ and FBI Offices of Professional Responsibility and/or the DOJ Office of Inspector General in matters relating to the Amerithrax investigation, and (3) detailed, written answers to the following questions:



1. (a) Why was Richard Lambert removed as the head of the Amerithrax investigation? (b) Was it related in any way to disagreements between him and others working on the investigation about the proper scope and focus of the FBI’s inquiry? If so, please explain. (c) Please identify and describe any and all documents related to Richard Lambert’s transfer.

2. (a) Has the FBI been able to narrow the possible source of the anthrax used to a finite number of labs? If so, how many? (b) What basis, if any, does the FBI have to believe that the anthrax was obtained directly from a lab by the terrorist?

3. (a) How many “persons of interest” other than the Dr. Stephen Hatfill are still of interest to the FBI? (b) How many, if any, individuals have been removed from the “persons of interest” list in the last five years? (c) Describe what criteria, if any, are used to determine when someone is removed from the “persons of interest” list.

4. (a) What has been the total cost of the investigation so far? (b) Of the 9,100 interviews, 67 searches, and 6,000 grand jury subpoenas in the Amerithrax investigation, how many were unrelated to Dr. Stephen Hatfill? (c) How many were related to the potential that foreign-born terrorists were involved in the attacks? (d) How many were related to leads not consistent with the initial FBI suspect profile? (e) Has the FBI altered its initial suspect profile in any way in the last 5 years? Please explain why or why not.

5. Are the public reports true that Dr. Christos Tsonas at Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale, Florida treated Ahmed al-Haznawi, one of the 9/11 hijackers for a lesion that he thought "was consistent with cutaneous anthrax" and that a 2002 memorandum prepared by experts at the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies concluded that the diagnosis of cutaneous anthrax was "the most probable and coherent interpretation of the data available?"

6. In March 2002, John E. Collingwood, an FBI spokesman, was quoted dismissing the possibility that the 9/11 hijackers handled anthrax, saying: “This was fully investigated and widely vetted among multiple agencies several months ago. Exhaustive testing did not support that anthrax was present anywhere the hijackers had been.” (a) Has exhaustive testing been conducted where Dr. Stephen Hatfill has been? (b) Did those test results support that anthrax was present in any of those locations? (c) If not, then please explain why those test results have not been announced publicly, just as the 9/11 hijacker test results were four years ago?

7. (a) What are the names of the officials responsible for determining that the anthrax attacks would be treated solely as a criminal law enforcement matter and not as an intelligence matter? (b) On what date was that decision made? (c) Please describe what criteria are used to classify a case as a criminal matter rather than an intelligence matter. (d) Please identify and describe any and all records, documents, or memoranda related to that decision.

8. (a) Please describe the procedures for sharing information about the anthrax investigation with the rest of the intelligence community. (b) Please describe the types and volume of information about the anthrax investigation that has been shared with the intelligence community. (c) Please describe the types and volume information about the Anthrax investigation withheld from the intelligence community, including a description of each occasion in which another government agency has requested information about the investigation and the request was declined.

9. (a) On how many occasions, and with what agency, has grand jury or other information gathered during the Amerithrax investigation been shared outside the Justice Department pursuant to Section 203 of the USA PATRIOT ACT? (b) On how many occasions has information gathered during the course of the Amerithrax investigation been shared outside the Justice Department pursuant to Section 905(a)(1) of the USA PATRIOT ACT? (c) On how many occasions has information gathered during the course of the Amerithrax investigation been withheld under Section 905(a)(2)?

10. (a) Other than the FBI’s Amerithrax investigative team, is there anyone else in the U.S. government tasked with examining the anthrax attacks and making a judgment about their likely origin? (b) If so, please explain. If not, why not?

11. (a) Has the FBI ever employed a “red-teaming” strategy in which a second group of investigators is tasked with looking at the evidence with the freedom to pursue alternative theories of the case? (b) If so, please explain. If not, why not?

12. (a) What are the names of the officials responsible for the decision to impose a blanket prohibition on all Congressional briefings related to the Amerithrax investigation? (b) On what date was that decision made? (c) What is the legal justification for such a decision? (c) Please identify and describe any and all records, documents, or memoranda related to that decision.

13. (a) What steps have been taken to determine who was responsible for the alleged Congressional leak? (b) Did the alleged Congressional leak involve the disclosure of classified information? (c) Did it involve the violation of an agreement not to further disseminate the information? (d) If the FBI believes that a Congressional leak damaged its investigation, as was implied it its September 28, 2006, letter, what steps, if any, has it taken to describe the nature of the damage and communicate its concern to the appropriate leadership or other authorities in Congress? (e) If none, then please explain why not.

14. (a) On how many occasions have Justice Department and/or FBI personnel leaked investigative information about Stephen Hatfill or the Amerithrax case? (b) What steps have been taken to investigate those leaks and discipline those responsible? (c) Please provide a list of the names of each government official interviewed, questioned under oath, or subjected to a polygraph examination regarding Amerithrax-related leaks, along with the dates of their testimony and the results of any polygraphs. (c) How many Justice Department and FBI personnel have been reprimanded or punished for leaking such information? (d) If any, please provide a detailed explanation of each instance. (e) What steps have been taken to prevent or deter future leaks by DOJ or FBI personnel of information related to the Amerithrax investigation?



Please provide the requested documents, written answers to these questions, and a proposed briefing date no later than November 21, 2006, the fifth anniversary of the death of Ottilie Lundgren, the last known fatality among the victims of the anthrax attacks. Any classified material responsive to this request should be sent to the Office of Senate Security. Any non-classified responsive material should be faxed to the attention of Jason Foster at (202) 228-0554 or hand-delivered to Room 203, Hart Senate Office Building.



Sincerely,





Charles E. Grassley

Chairman



cc: Max Baucus

Ranking Member, Committee on Finance

United States Senate



Arlen Specter

Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary

United States Senate



Pat Roberts

Chairman, Select Committee on Intelligence

United States Senate



James Sensenbrenner

Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary

U.S. House of Representatives



Pete Hoekstra

Chairman, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

U.S. House of Representatives



Congressman Rush Holt

U.S. House of Representatives



Robert S. Mueller, III

Director, Federal Bureau of Investigations
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
14. "Please provide...answers to these questions... no later than November 21, 2006"
Annnnd???

Hah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. or we'll send you another letter
with more names on it :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
4. WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:43 PM
Response to Original message
5. Here's the letter with signatures
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 02:45 PM by seemslikeadream
http://grassley.senate.gov/releases/2006/12122006.pdf

December 11, 2006



The Honorable Alberto Gonzales

Attorney General

United States Department of Justice

950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20535



Dear Attorney General Gonzales:



As you know, the Department of Justice and the FBI recently refused a number of Congressional requests for information regarding its five-year-old investigation into the 2001 Anthrax attacks. The FBI also announced a blanket prohibition on any further anthrax briefings, citing concerns about alleged public disclosures of sensitive information following previous briefings on the case. This is an inappropriate response to legitimate Congressional oversight requests.



Given recent revelations that FBI agents were the anonymous sources for New York Times stories casting suspicion on “person of interest,” Stephen Hatfill, it appears that the FBI may itself be responsible for the inappropriate disclosures of sensitive case information. Whether on Capitol Hill or within the FBI, individuals who make inappropriate disclosures should be held accountable. However, as an institution, Congress cannot be cut-off from detailed information about the conduct of one of the largest investigations in FBI history. That information is vital in order to fulfill its Constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight of the Executive Branch.



Therefore, we request that you direct the FBI to provide Congress with a comprehensive briefing on the status of the five-year-old anthrax investigation.



Sincerely,

Chuck Grassley Rush Holt

Arlen Specter George Miller

Charles Schumer Diane Watson

Dianne Feinstein Charles Gonzalez

Russell Feingold Gary Ackerman

Mark Dayton Frank Pallone, Jr.

Daniel Akaka Barbara Lee

Jim Bunning Carolyn Maloney

Kit Bond Jim McGovern

Trent Lott Chris Smith

Frank Lautenberg Dennis Kucinich

Edward Kennedy Christopher Shays

Mark Pryor Donald Payne

Robert Menendez Raul Grijalva

Michael Honda

Lynn Woolsey

Bill Pascrell, Jr.

Sam Farr

John Larson
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Barbara Lee and Lynn Woolsey
always seem get caught up in doing the right thing. They're the real leaders of this country.

And cheers to Feingold and Kennedy, as usual.

And old Arlen Specter always inserts himself in hopes of corrupting the process, steering the cover-ups.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
7. kcik
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. kcik
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:51 PM
Response to Original message
9. The FBI's afraid of LEAKS?
That's a good one. Gonzo's ass is grass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:55 PM
Response to Original message
10. When they find out the Busheviks tanked the investigation on the Anthrax Assassin
THAT will cause a hue and cry for impeachment.

EVERYONE was scared shitless for MONTHS about the mail. Which, concidentally is how the Busheviks prefer their subjects to be...scared.

Even now, I suspect Unka Dick or Unka Karl or others know the identity of the Bushevik who perpetrated the anthrax attacks. I wonder if they ORDERED it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Yes, and it will open minds to real investigations, if not to MIHOP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
12. I remember the Set Up Book by Judith Miller called Germs
for the Anthrax threat... remember Judith she was the set up women for Wilson and Plame
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:28 PM
Response to Original message
13. Anyone know why they are just getting around to demanding answers now?
Are Republicans making a last-ditch effort to look as though they were providing oversight? Am I missing something?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:59 PM
Response to Original message
16. well that blows the gateway drug theory to bits
you'd figure they'd first demand answers on marijuana,
then demand them on cocaine,
then demand them on heroin,
and maybe.. then demand them on anthrax.

But leaping straight to anthrax is a sure cure for the congressional drug problem. ;-)

Perhaps more lobbiests should demand answers on anthrax to even the odds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:57 AM
Response to Original message
17. Did we ever find out why the White House got CIPRO before the attacks?
A reminder:



WHITE HOUSE DODGES ANTHRAX QUESTIONS

Bush Administration Stonewalls On Production of
Documents Concerning Decision to Put Staff on Cipro
Beginning September 11, 2001

Brentwood Postal Workers Denied Treatment While
White House Protected Itself


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, said today that the Bush administration has failed to provide a complete and accurate response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request concerning the decision to place White House staff on a regimen of the powerful antibiotic, Cipro, the same day as the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. By contrast, U.S. Postal Service workers from Washington, DC’s Brentwood Postal Facility – Judicial Watch clients – were denied antibiotic treatment, even after it became apparent that the Brentwood facility had been contaminated. Judicial Watch represents the Brentwood Postal workers in various legal proceedings against government officials who put their lives in jeopardy. So far, 8 postal workers have died and hundreds remain harmed by the lethal exposure.

Despite multiple press reports confirming that White House staff began use of Cipro on September 11, 2001, the incomplete and evasive FOIA response from The White House consisted of a paltry, four e-mail messages and an “administrative alert” concerning testing procedures in reaction to the anthrax deaths of two postal workers, all of which were dated October 23 and October 24, 2001. Judicial Watch has appealed the FOIA response and will take strong legal action to uncover the truth despite the obstructionist tactics of the administration.

“The Bush administration has an established reputation for secrecy and obfuscation when it comes to answering straight-forward questions that are clearly in the interest of the American people. Unfortunately, the Bush administration is incredibly even less transparent and accountable than the criminal enterprise the Clintons ran out of The White House during their regime. There’s a disturbing trend of denying the American public access to information that keeps politicians accountable. We will not stand for it,” stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman.

SOURCE: http://www.judicialwatch.org/2953.shtml



They don't care for us, as in "We the People." They really don't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC