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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:42 PM
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Conservative Publication: Soy Products “Turning Our Kids Into Homosexuals”...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

"There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a "health food," one of our most popular.

Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food.

The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. "

snip.....

"Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them."

WTF!:crazy:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:44 PM
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1. The author is a preacher too."Founder-chairman of Open Church Ministries"
I never knew tofu was satanic. :crazy:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:45 PM
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2. wrung out pretty well in the glbt forum
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:45 PM
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3. They are really losing it
They've resorted to attacking food now. I drink soy milk sometimes and nothing has changed about me one bit.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:51 PM
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9. Have you measured lately? ;-) (n/t)
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:45 PM
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4. Oh good grief.......... these people are totally f.......... insane
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:45 PM
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5. Let them eat meat laced with GM growth hormones
That'll put lead in their manly pencil!!!1111

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:46 PM
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6. yes, indeed
which is precisely why the most populous country in the world is also the number one consumer of Soy products.

oh wait, that doesn't make sense. never mind.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:50 PM
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7. So....all gay men have small......
:blush: OH MY!!!!!


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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:53 PM
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10. WRONG
Trust me, I know. :-)
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:01 PM
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15. I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know !!!!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:10 PM
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19. As a nurse who's seen it all
I know, too.
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:55 PM
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26. So that was YOU checking me out in the restroom, Terrya!

I was in there trying to recruit so I can get a toaster oven to give as a gift.

....Sorry, I just couldn't resist.....
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:51 PM
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8. How long before he comes out of the pantry? I mean closet?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:55 PM
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11. These People Aren't Real. They Must Be Writers for the Daily Show or The Colbert Report
No rational human being thinks this way. We're being punked here.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:59 PM
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12. HFCS: Food for REAL men!
:rofl:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:59 PM
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13. So, my wife is making me gay
when she cooks something with soy products in it?

Is it a conspiracy on her part, or just an innocent mistake?

Damn, no wonder those Chinese are dying out, the soy is turning them all gay. I bet in a few years, they'll be none left.

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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:00 PM
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14. Cough.

Dear Sir,

1. It is weird, WEIRD, that you feel yourself entitled and sufficiencly educated to explaint to me what to do with my dick in my spare time. In fact, it has nothing to do with you at all.

2. Increased oestrogen is not responsible for homosexuality. Go and read the literature.

3. You are wrong about my tiny johnson.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:06 PM
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16. It just gets crazier and crazier!
There was a point in time in our culture where this kind of thing wouldn't see the light of day. I mean, no self respecting news organization would publish this crap! But today, ANYTHING goes...... :shrug:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:08 PM
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17. Dear WorldNutDaily,
You could not be more wrong. Soy foods are definitely not harmful to men, their libido, or their equipment. Trust me on this one.
Fuck off, really.

Yours truly,
LeftyMom
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:09 PM
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18. Blaming women for it was getting awfully twentieth century, you know
We've progressed far beyond that. Now we're going to blame ESTROGEN for everything that happens to the poor, fragile male, even the trace amounts of phytoestrogen in soy.

Of course, we'll never blame the pseudoestrogens sprayed onto crops and pumped into meat and dairy products, will we?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:43 PM
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25. And here I thought it was all Bill Clinton's fault...
Or at least the fault of HIS penis! :eyes:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:13 PM
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20. um. weren't some people gay even before we started using soy-based baby formula?
These people couldn't argue their way out of a paper bag. And when you call them on their faulty reasoning, they call you "biased".
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:15 PM
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21. The Secret is OUT!
And when did this start...well you know!

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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:23 PM
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22. This is an odd story
I saw this earlier and thought it would be great for the Top 10, but then I started looking into it and it's kinda strange.

It seems that Jim Rutz is getting all of his ideas from this page:

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/03summary.htm

Rutz repeats the stuff about "greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all," and "Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day." He then adds his own ridiculous conclusions about how soy makes people gay.

But I thought this was all a bit weird. The information on this New Zealand anti-soy site crops up in a lot of different articles on the web - mostly mothers asking child-care experts about this stuff they've read on the Internet about soy harming babies.

So who is "Soy Online Service?" On their About page it says "Soy Online Service are a small group of private citizens from New Zealand, the United States and the United Kingdom. We have no industry connections and are not funded by any outside interest groups. Our mission is to uncover the truth about soy and to provide consumers with an alternative opinion to the plethora of criminal and dangerous lies that issue from the soy industry."

Okay, that's even weirder. Why would a group of private citizens want to expose the soy industry?

If you look at the bottom left of the page, it says that the site was created and is maintained by Kingett Mitchell Ltd:

http://www.kma.co.nz

...which appears to be some kind of lobbying organization for New Zealand industry, dolled up in a pro-enviroment-looking package. I can't say for sure because I haven't had enough time to look it over properly. But that's what it seems to be.

So Jim Rutz and his "soy makes you gay" nonsense aside, why would a bunch of unnamed "private citizens" want to hire a big lobbying company to create a site dedicated to trashing the soy industry?

I'm confused :)
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:31 PM
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23. Come on everybody knows that Flouride in the drinking water causes the Gay.
Soy is most likely a youthful experiment. They'll be back onto the meat soon enough.
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:42 PM
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24. LOL; looks like the Onion
Is this legit or was this plucked from The Onion. It almost reads like a self-parody.

Here's some info I researched:

"Soy contains estrogen-like compounds, not estradiol. The plant sources of estrogen in soy are weak estrogens, approximately 1/1000th the activity of synthetic estrogens. A moderate amount of soy containing foods should not be a problem. "
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:38 PM
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27. How beautifully ignorant.
Gay men are not "feminized". Statistically, gay men have HIGHER testosterone levels and higher sperm counts than heterosexual men.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/131/1/82

Breathtaking ignorance and prejudice.

Also, if Soy is feminizing, how does it apply to lesbians?
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:40 PM
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28. Hormones have nothing to do with penis size.
(though they do with testes size), and have nothing to do with homosexuality, either.

Though it's interesting that he seems to be proposing a biological basis for homosexuality.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:45 PM
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29. Aimed at Midwest soy-producers, potential Democratic supporters. nt
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:50 PM
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30. "Just so that y'all know, you're queer. Vote for me." n/t
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:57 PM
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31. It's aimed at reducing demand for soy products, so that the
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 09:21 PM by BullGooseLoony
producers don't make as much money, I mean.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:14 AM
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32. I drink SOY MILK like water....
...I love 8th CONTINENT SOY MILK, its a helluvalot better then Cow milk. Thinking about what is is Cows milk is rather sickening, I love Cows but their Milk is for their calves not people.

People making those claims are just deperate asshats looking for anything and everything to cry about just to keep their socially destructive ideological agenda alive.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:16 AM
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33. Soy: The New Weapon of the Gay Agenda
:sarcasm:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:28 AM
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34. I wonder if Ted Haggard was fed soy milk as a baby
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