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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:04 PM Original message |
The Minimum Wage Increase: Victory or Short-Term Band-Aid? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. I doubt anyone will say this is the end, and we've done all we need to do... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The point? That people not fall for the idea that this is enough. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Victory. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Thank you for that. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I think Howard, Harry and Nancy have earned our respect. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. How many people die in "taking time"? |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I'm not making apologies. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Doesn't it make sense to work for a better reality... |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That is so not what I said. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Every Civil Rights movement was told "This isn't the time...wait" |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Oh please... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I'm sorry for your lack of concern. Given your sharp retort, there is no |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I'm a big believer in compassion and have widely read Buddhist literature. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Great point. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. We mustn't forget them. They don't have a great advocate anymore, |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's a first step, and we should celebrate |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. As long as it's a FIRST step, and not a LAST one, fine. |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nope, you are definitely not alone. There are two ways to |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. You are not alone |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That's exactly my point! |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. 5.15 to 7.25 is hardly a pittance for the people who make minimum wage. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. right- it's about a 40% increase |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Over two years, with rising inflation? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The point is, this is a big increase for those making minimum wage |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "Would no increase have been better?" - didn't I say the opposite several times? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. What is the inflation rate right now? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. As long as we don't stop at this, it's a victory. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Is my cynicism making me see people here acting as if it's a huge victory? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You have every reason to be suspicious, that's not you. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That IS sad! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. I think, maybe, we're so used to losing, that this takes on that sense of |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. It should be 10 bucks an hour or more. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. For a full time minimum wage worker...this is more than $3800 a year... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Over two years. With rising inflation. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You are saying... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. As i said, I'm not an economist. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. I've very mixed feelings, too. I supported it (by getting others to call, etc) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I wonder how people will react when Congress gets another mandatory cost-of-living increase. |
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