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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 02:32 PM
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Rep. Ney linked to Diebold Electoral Fraud
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 02:34 PM by kpete
The Soon-to-be-Indicted Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio's Connection To Electoral Fraud
The Dots Connect Between Abramoff, Ohio 2004 Election Smokescreen and Ney's Former Staffer Revealed to be on Diebold's Payroll While Working for White House Law Firm
All the While as HAVA -- America's 'Election Reform' Bill -- is Used for Political Payoff in the Bargain...


There's been a great deal of speculation over the last several days, particularly in the light of Jack Abramoff's recent guilty pleas, concerning the connection of Congressman Bob Ney (R-OH) to Election Fraud in Ohio, and indeed, vis a vis his stewardship and authoring of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) back in 2001 and 2002. The heavy-handed tactics he has taken since then in order to keep the flawed act from being changed in any way over the years, along with the great lengths he's gone to in order to keep the nation's eyes off of massive electile dysfunction in Ohio and elsewhere since 2004 may finally soon get the attention it all properly deserves.

Both Abramoff and his partner Michael Scanlon have directly informed prosecutors of Ney's alleged wrong doing in regard to money and gifts given to Ney in apparent exchange for support on various legislation and even personal business deals. Ney, who chairs the important U.S. House Administration Committee, has been fingered, and now subpoenaed, in regard to accepting illegal trips, gratuities and other apparent quid pro quo deals with Abramoff's former firms, partners, friends and groups who had paid both him and Scanlon as lobbyists.

His direct connection to the HAVA Election Reform bill passed in the wake of the 2000 Florida Election Debacle and his various extraordinary efforts to specifically block amendments to the bill and to smokescreen attempted investigations into his home state's conduct during the 2004 Election Debacle, has been less widely reported. Until now.
more at:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002261.htm
via:http://www.rawstory.com/
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 02:35 PM
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1. K&R
:thumbsup:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 02:40 PM
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2. and another....I knew this crap was all connected. g-damn Fascist Mafia.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 02:42 PM by blm
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:01 PM
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9. The one thing to never forget
is it's always connected with people like that.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:19 AM
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24. Without their connections they wouldn't be able to feed themselves.
seriously.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 02:52 PM
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3. Excellent! Thanks Brad.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 02:55 PM
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4. reco'd
thanks for the post!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:07 PM
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5. This is IT. The heart of the beast. Abramoff. Ney. H.A.V.A.
Way back, when I first learned about electronic voting, I wondered how such a thing (H.A.V.A.) could get through even a corrupt Bush "pod people" Congress. Abramoff was a little known name then (except to the beneficiaries of his largesse). And Ney was just kind of an unknown object faded into the "pod people" wood work. I put it all down to Tom Delay, actually (the blocker of the "paper trail" requirement). And he is, indeed, a critical part of this story--but at the time, I only had a vague notion of how they did it. And I didn't know what to think of the Democrats, seemingly scared pissless rabbitry, with anthrax wafting in the air. I'd like to have a roster of the vote now. It might be pretty interesting. (Would it coincide pretty exactly with the roster I have on the Iraq War resolution, do you think? Just a hunch.)

Abramoff. Ney. H.A.V.A. And the murder of our democracy. Or rather, the ATTEMPTED murder. There's still some life left in it yet, and it's right here on the internet.

My, my, my.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:48 PM
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6. This article needs to read by EVERYONE!
The direct connections between Diebold and HAVA are astounding. And Ney is right there in the middle of it all.

The blowback from this will be extraordinary once Ney is dethroned along with DeLay.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:56 PM
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7. Thanks for this.
Peace.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:01 PM
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8. And I still see posts on DU that think election fraud is hogwash.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 04:53 PM by joeunderdog
Un-FUCKEN-real.

I get pissed every time I read stories like these. They become 12-second blips on a late news show if they get air at all, and they are buried with the rest of the important news in daily papers. This shit should be front page.

This is the most important issue the Dems and Americans face. Without fair elections, it won't matter how many Plame stories, Abramoff stories or WMD stories people hear.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:51 PM
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11. With you 100% on that.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:36 PM
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32. Absolutely. Nothing else matters but election rigging.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:10 PM
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10. Now this might open up what happened inOhio in '04!! nt
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:03 PM
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13. what happened in Ohio, happened everywhere
I saw my machine default to George Bush 5 times here in Baltimore, MD. I hope that
this election fraud is treated like the crime it is. I want to see perps doing the
walk in handcuffs.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:01 PM
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12. Holy crap. Do you think Abramoff has spilled info on the vote fraud?
Oh please let it be! Please, please, please!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:35 PM
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17. I doubt anybody has had the sense to ask him about it
considering how it has been ignored so. But, maybe we can make it happen be being the squeaky wheel.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:55 PM
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18. Ummm...I have...
See:

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/#010206

I'll let ya know when there's more to report on that...of course...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 06:00 PM
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19. Kicked and Recommended!
:kick:

Good job, Brad!:thumbsup:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:09 PM
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14. If we can prove election fraud
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 05:10 PM by DoYouEverWonder
that was pervasive enough to change the outcome of the presidential election, would that be grounds for voiding the results?

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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:27 AM
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22. no.
It's impossible to change the results since they were certified by Congress aftr the election. It doesn't matter what we are able to prove now, the only thing that can change the results is another election forced into action by Congress. Congress can probably do a little bit more if it wanted to, but it probably won't or doesn't care to. Unfortunately we're probably stuck with what we have no matter what astoudning revelations come within the next 3 years.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:22 PM
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15. Just say Ney
:-)
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:31 PM
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16. Or Noe! .... n/t
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:51 PM
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20. Send Ney to jail! n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 01:53 AM
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21. A Unified Field Theory of Republican Corruption
Of course the elections have been stolen...how else to explain the reckless and arrogant actions of the Republicans? Rigging the vote assures that they can continue to pursue an agenda that transfer the wealth from the bottom 90% upwards. I think they never expected the internet to become a tool of the opposition, though. Republicans assumed that owning the corporate media was enough to assure their information control.

The day of judgement is coming soon, I think. Every day the machine is losing steam. Every day a common opposition grows. The word is getting out and the truth will not be denied. When the worm turns, look for a progressive backlash, the likes I've never seen. Who had a better vision for America....Clinton or Bush? The facts speak for themselves...
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:32 AM
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25. Backlash, yes but the final outcome of a progressive
form of governance is far from certain.

Remember the idealism of pre-communist Russia, and how that people/worker class rebellion was subverted into a authoritarian police state.

It could just as easily be the same result here. A matter of replacing the tyranny of the wealth controlling the government with the tyranny of a leftist demagogue backed by the same money interests. Think of it as "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

One thing is certain though, it won't be the same as before Bu$h stole the 2000 election. It's far too early to have high idealistic ideas on the outcome of this.

In fact, I would not be surprised if the architects of the coup have not made plans for just this outcome, of election fraud becoming known, to trigger a revolt. Overthrowing a government is risky, but if well planned can be foolproof. Look for the architects to be 'old money' in Europe that have subverted the 'intelligence' operations in Europe and here, shortly after WWII. Historically, this group has tried behind the scenes coups against our country since day one. The coup even has the smell of these operators, in how it has been accomplished.

The final outcome though, would have to be a strong authoritarian dictator, to front for a plutocracy. Either Right or Left, it makes no difference to the plutocracy. What matters is it be highly authoritarian.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:01 PM
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31. Disturbing words......but perhaps I see a more optimistic outcome.
The authoritarian drift has been coming from the right since the early 80's. Really, in the past 26 years the Democrats have held both the Presidency and the Congress, concurrently, for 2 years. (92-94). Obviously, the drift has become a chartered course since the 2000 stolen election.

I've seen plenty of examples of RW dictatorships and there are a few LW versions in the past (ones that paid lip service only to democratic/socialist ideals, Mao's China, USSR,and, to a lesser degree, Castro's Cuba). But I suspect that we have a strong enough institutional memory to preserve the ideals of multi-party government and a system of checks and balances fixed to insure it permanently. Not to say that we will be sucessful in the short term. We may even see much darker days ahead...but there are just too many of us who will stand in opposition to make this permanent. The more obvious the Republican Corruption and anti-democratic criminal agenda is exposed, the more that opposition will grow. It will come to a head, but we will prevail.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:16 AM
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23. ... and a....
four star K&R.

:kick:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:50 AM
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26. THis stuff just makes me sick
The depths of evil that the Republicans have sunk to.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:50 AM
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27. Keep in mind most Americans probably still think HAVA is a GOOD thing. nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:07 PM
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28. It's good because it's got a touchy-feely name.
Help America Vote Act ... all style, no substance.

If the name is good, the product must be good. :sarcasm:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 01:27 PM
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29. bushco* are pros at bait and switch. Give a heinous program a
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 01:28 PM by Raster
touchy-feely name. They're hoping no one goes beyond the sound bite name. Cases in point: Clear Skies Initiative, which we know weakens previous antipollution guidelines and allows the worst polluters even more license to poison you and me; No Child Left Behind, which guts previous initiatives to ensure quality education for all; and my oh-so-cynical favorite: Help America Vote Act, which translates to Help Us Steal Another Election. bush* doesn't belong in the White House, he belongs in prison. The same with most of the rethuglicans in Congress. Prison. Now.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 01:59 PM
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30. Don't forget "Hell with the forests"
which they inaptly named "Healthy Forests" x(
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:54 PM
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33. This use of Orwellian language manipulation has reached extremes
with these people. The fact that they do stuff like that is extremely revealing.
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