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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:25 PM
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Juan Williams seems tired of Bill Kristol's happy talk on Iraq
 
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:33 PM
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1. Well I hate to tell Bill Kristol, but the Iraqis want us out.
Maybe he can celebrate our "success" and we can get outta there.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:37 PM
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23. Iraqi want us out when Matt Lauer and the Morning Talking points shows say so
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:40 PM
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2. Kristol, Perle, Wolfowitz, etc. will never admit that Iraq was a mistake.
They will blame Rumsfeld's strategy for our losses and claim that the surge was their strategy from the "get-go".
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:44 PM
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3. Fascinating. Juan Williams actually taking a stand against the right wing.
It's been a long time, Juan. I guess Kristol is just so full of shit that you couldn't hold it in any longer.

And, Kristol really is full of shit. I love this from him: "Two years ago, I viewed Iraq as being another Vietnam.... one year ago I saw it as being another Korea with an acceptable stalemate." What a lying bastard. I would love to see Kristol cough up a quote of himself from two years ago when called Iraq our next Vietnam.

Two thumbs up to Juan Williams.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:18 PM
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9. Maybe Juan has been getting a lot of nasty emails lately...
Juan Williams is full of shit,tommorrow he will be on the attack again against Obama..
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:46 PM
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4. Eat shit and die.
Kristol is the world's biggest asshole.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:46 PM
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5. According to Kristol, it's the greatest Phyrric victory since Mi Lai nt
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:11 PM
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6. Juan Williams. Why?
My question to Juan Williams would be: How can you stand to work with these guys?
And how could we call whatever outcome we have in Iraq a "victory" or a "win?" When the most powerful country in the world lays siege to a small, weak country which was no threat to it and creates chaos and misery, it is no "victory." William Kristol is obnoxious.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:32 PM
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11. Juan Williams loves to navigate between right and left.
On NPR, he's the devil's advocate, constantly espousing rightwing concepts and arguing against the left. He'll finish his discourse with shrug, trying to find the middle ground.

On Fox, he refuses to play the liberal doormat for the rightwing shitheads; he'll argue against them but only from the rightwing ideological point of view. This is the first time I've seen him take a chunk from one of their butts.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:39 PM
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7. If only Kristol were one of the "minimal casualties". What a delusional lying POS.
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 02:46 PM by Dollface
Kudos to Juan Williams this time for, 1 being disgusted and 2 showing it. I hope he breaks his leash someday.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:53 PM
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8. Funny how the NY Times hired Kristol while Fox hired Rove, Huckabee and Ingraham
I keep hammering that point home because there are still a decent percentage of Americans that (as amazing and ridiculous it is) think Fox is "fair and balanced" or "just a little right of center".
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 06:53 PM
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15. just a little to the right of...
cancer
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:31 PM
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10. The president of Iran walked among the people of Iraq and was greeted
like a friend. Bush has to sneak into Iraq and if he goes outside the Green Zone, he'll get shot dead. Doesn't look like we're winning to me, Billy boy.
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lakercub Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:32 PM
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12. Kristol is NEVER right
in fact, I am surprised he even wants to go on tv anymore...he has been shown to be wrong so incredibly often that the guy can not possibly have any decent reputation. I am looking forward to someone just saying..."Hey Bill, what is your prediction? I want to put my money on the opposite outcome."

This guy is just flat wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's uncanny.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:39 PM
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13. Victory's just around the corner, huh?
How many people have to die, how far does our dollar have to sink, and how much of a mess do we have to make in order to finally have that freakin' victory, Bill?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:40 PM
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14. I do have a quote from Kristol in which he mentions Iraq and Vietnam in the same piece:
While in Iraq, I kept thinking back to a story that Dean Barnett reported in a recent article on the "9/11 generation" in the Weekly Standard. Barnett attended the commissioning of a Marine Corps lieutenant who had just graduated from Harvard. After the ceremony, the young man returned to his dorm room in full dress uniform and received a spontaneous round of applause from classmates. A campus police officer took him aside to shake his hand. The young man's father observed, "It was like something out of a movie."

Out of a World War II--era movie, to be precise. Whatever the other ways in which one can try to compare Iraq to Vietnam, in this important respect, here at home, the Vietnam era is over. The post-9/11 era is well under way.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1651505,00.html


Hm. Mr. Kristol, that is the exact opposite of the Iraq/Vietnam comparison you claimed on Sunday. Damn, what an ass.

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:08 PM
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16. There are two ways to tell that a neoconservative is lying
  • His lips are moving.
  • There is werbage underneath his byline.

Okay, I know I just wrote this on the thread about Lieberman, but it goes double for Kristol.

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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:15 PM
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17. DELUSION!
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:04 PM
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18. if that s a victory god help us when we suffer our next defeat!!!
bill kristol eat shit and die you asshole!!!
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:20 PM
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19. Bill Kristol talks way too much
for someone saying nothing.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:26 PM
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20. What happened to Fred Barnes? He looks like a gussied up
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 09:48 PM by Tutonic
version of Barba Bush!! Oh my. no.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 10:02 PM
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21. Is Kristol an alien?
His shit-eating grin is :puke: inducing.

He's a prime example of the Peter Principle...he has risen to a level of incompetence.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 10:26 PM
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22. Tear his head off...
...and shit in his neck. I hate that motherfucker with a passion that very well may get me kicked off this place.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:47 PM
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24. LOL. Wow. He just... snapped! nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:19 PM
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25. My favorite pic of Billy PNAC Kristol...
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