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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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McCain: 'I Will Be A Pro-Life President'
 
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If you're pro-choice, John McCain isn't for you.

"I have a 25 year record pro-life record in the Congress, in the Senate, and as President of the United States I will be a pro-life president, and this presidency will have pro-life policies. That's my commitment. That's my commitment to you."

Too bad he isn't pro-life when it comes to war.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:22 PM
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1. which is when he lost the election - thanks, John
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:34 PM
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2. Riiiight, but I think he'll *need* the position as a twisted form of FirstFruits...
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 10:01 PM by bridgit
after his deadly policies scythe the living
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:37 PM
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3. GOD Willing, He will never BE President
He can be President of the Elks Club
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:48 PM
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4. Here's My Follow Up Question
In response to "what point is a baby entitled to human rights" and McSame's answer, "moment of conception" I would like to know at what point the baby's rights supercede the mother's.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:24 PM
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5. Pro lifers need to absolutely embrace Roe v. Wade.
The majority opinion in Roe turns women into breeding stock for the state at the beginning of the second trimester.

That's pretty damn early.

It's a good compromise.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:36 PM
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7. Or even when they become equal . . . ????
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Mrhyde719 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 09:36 AM
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13. Right, If a baby has full rights the moment of conception,
then can a woman be charged with involuntary manslaughter if she has an early stage miscarry? These people are insane. I consider the pro-lifers as crazy as Rev. Phelp's homophobes.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:25 PM
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6. "At what point is a baby entitled to human rights?" "What are human rights?"
...We all pretty much know that what John McCain stands for is the rights of the War Party of America which respects no human rights. So McCain's knee-jerk response is pure politics. Here are the definitions of human rights from the web:

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Definitions of HUMAN RIGHTS on the Web:

See: BILL OF RIGHTS / CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS / UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS / .
bitbucket.icaap.org/dict.pl

the right to property, freedom of religion, etc., the rights which guarantee the concrete, real human being in their occupation, their beliefs ...
www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/r/i.htm

Can mean either natural rights or civil rights (see separate entries). Often users of the term conflate the two ideas under the heading "human rights".
academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/virtual/glossary.htm

Certain universal rights many argue should be enjoyed by all people because they are justified by a moral standard that stands above the laws of ...
occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/stearns_awl/medialib/glossary/gloss_H.html

The basic entitlement accorded to every human being. The rights include the right to health, education, shelter, employment, property, food, freedom of expression and movement.
www.searo.who.int/en/Section10/Section18/Section356/Section421_1623.htm

are the agreed international standards that recognize and protect the dignity and integrity of every individual without any distinction.
www.humanitarianreform.org/humanitarianreform/Portals/1/cluster%20approach%20page/Kenya/GBV/Code%20of%20Conduct%20-%20Kenya%20Emergency%20.doc

Almost all states profess that they observe the basic human rights of their citizens. These rights exist by virtue of the fact that one is human and is therefore entitled to be treated in a way befitting that status. ...
www.icons.umd.edu/reslib/display_glossary

are rights recognized as inalienable, integral, individual, and universal for all people with the United Nations’ passage of the Universal ...
www.las.iastate.edu/WSP_KCGS_Partners/english/modules/Globalization,%20Gender,%20Migration%20and%20Trafficking%20in%20Women/key_concepts.htm

Universal rights to which every person is entitled, by a moral standard that stands above the laws of any individual nation
abolition.e2bn.org/glossary/view_glossary_0_H.html

Basic Rights for all humans independent of the nationality
staatsrecht.honikel.de/en/glossar.htm

are basic rights which many societies believe that all people should have.
englishcorner209.blogspot.com/2008/05/vocabulary-unit-9.html

claims for recognition by an individual that take precedence over other claims, and that other individuals, groups and societies are duty bound to recognize.
www.saskschools.ca/~kidddlaw/international/vocabulary/vocab.html

The rights one has, because one is a human being. The right to life, freedom and human dignity.
homepage.mac.com/poptech/projects/afglossary.html

The basic rights and freedoms that all humans should have:- the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, equality before the law
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/human rights
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Night_Nurse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:54 AM
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8. How much botox does it take...
to obtain such an oh-so-smoooooth forehead at that age?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:05 AM
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9. His strong statement, worded the way it is: indication he's gonna choose Ridge as VP? Hmmm. nt
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:16 AM
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10. I'd like to know how you can be 'pro life' when you're so cavalier about war.
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 09:18 AM by bulloney
You just think you're entitled to invading countries just because just because. Lie if you have to, but you're entitled to invading other countries if you want. If you create millions of refugees and hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed, oh well!

How is that pro-life?

I know a lot of people who vote 'pro life' strictly because of a candidate's position on abortion. When I throw war, capital punishment and other life issues into the conversation, these peoples' heads explode. It's like their brains cannot process such nuances.
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:26 AM
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11. "I will be a pro-life president" needs to be juxtaposed w/ "100 more years of war!"
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 09:27 AM by PerpetuallyDazed
I hate dumb ass answers like these. A "life" is not automatically equal to "human life"... I wish people would think this through just a tad further... :eyes:

Better question: What's he going to do to reduce abortion? Does he ever answer that??
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ablueview Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 06:51 AM
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12. This is going to really hurt him.
According to Planned Parenthood, 49% of women currently backing McCain express pro-choice views and 36% of them say they are less likely to vote for McCain when told that he opposes Roe v. Wade.

Now McCain has unambiguously told them.

McCain's greatest hits: Watch him not only say he'd be a Pro-Life president but condemn gay marriage, opine on Supreme Court picks and say you have to earn $5 million before he'd consider you rich: here.
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