Compare and contrast: Joe Biden and Sarah Palin answer questions about Supreme Court decisions

[Wetzelbill]

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Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.

[Union Thug]

1. Wow, if this is a preview of what we'll see in the debates...

Sarah should just forfeit now and save herself the humiliation.

[Wetzelbill]

2. Like in the UFC she should just walk out on stage and tap out after the first question

[barack the house]

3. One person wants to control a woman one trys to respect a womans rights. n/t.

[intheflow]

47. The irony is completely lost on these

newly-formed Republican "feminists."

[PatSeg]

4. But, but, but............

....that's not fair. Biden was chairman of the Judiciary Committee and he's been in the Senate for 36 years and he has a law degree and he is smart as all get-out and, and, and........well, Sarah can see Russia from her house.

[Wetzelbill]

6. he uses fancy elite thinking, she has common sense, is a straight shooter and

goes with her gut. That's a real leader.

[PatSeg]

12. Yessiree!

She's my kinda gal, she is! Nuttin' fancy about our Sarah!

[Wetzelbill]

15. wow, and how unfancy can one woman get?

:)

[PatSeg]

27. Hopefully she'll head back to Alaska

and we won't have to find out.

[jberryhill]

36. I don't trust any o' those hetero-geniuses that Biden was talkin' bout' /nt

[Wetzelbill]

42. oh you were a little too dead on for comfort

I'm alerting. lol

[jberryhill]

46. Heh... my wife didn't get my comment...

And does not believe me that if Biden uses words like heterogeneous, he's dead meat with a lot of people who will not know WTF he is saying.

Then again, they might think...

"Well at least Biden supports hetero-geniuses, instead of all those smart-alecky homos."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. The beauty of this is Biden's presentation of the facts without seeming elitist.

It will be a sit down debate, so he should be as relaxed as he was during this interview.

His warmth shines through.

On the other hand, Miss Teen South Carolina did it again!

[Muttocracy]

20. She's never even been to the islands where you can see Russia!

That video is here somewhere - they went to the islands and interviewed locals - hysterical.

[PatSeg]

25. If you find it,

let me know. I wonder if they keep their eyes open for Putin's head.

[Bette Noir]

60. I saw that on CNN on Tuesday.

Most of the residents only vaguely knew that Palin was governor of Alaska, and hadn't heard that she was running for VP.

[L. Coyote]

67. No, she just falsely claimed she has seen Russia from Alaska once! LOL.

How did the "seen Russia" thing start anyway?
I don't want to confabulate Tina Faye and palin, and can't figure out how to avoid it! :rofl:

[PatSeg]

72. It was such a dumb remark to begin with,

but McCain's campaign kept repeating it. I thought they'd try to bury it after Sarah said it the first time. Scary, isn't it?

[Middle finga]

5. This Palin pick has got to be a joke. The joke IMO is Biden having

to show up and debate this lightweight. Biden can send one of his aides to debate this poor excuse of a VP candidate.

[Pisces]

7. It is insane that she will be on the same stage as Biden.

[StopTheNeoCons]

8. She wants Missisippi to be able to have slavery if they want it

[NOW tense]

9. I really

Have had kind of a bad day but, What an ignorant person you are Sarah. I don't know how you even think that you are even remotely capable of holding the office of V.P. You are lazy, unintelligent, unknowing, moon bat crazy,self serving, ARRRGHHHHH!

man my eyeball hurts...
I think I popped a blood vessel or something.
where was I...
Oh yeah you are not ready to even be a county clerk (no offense to county clerk)



My eyeball Still hurts.

[Heather MC]

10. "I believe in a culture of life" umm that could be discribing dirty underwear

:rofl:

[quiet.american]

11. PAIN.FUL. Keep 'em coming, Sarah! nt

[gratefultobelib]

13. Holy crap. That's all. Just holy crap.

[calmblueocean]

14. This is the contrast I hope to see on stage.

Biden is ready to answer any question. Sarah isn't. The contrast between the two answers should be stunning.

But we shall see. I'm sure Palin's been coached with a bunch of buzzwords and snappy putdowns and has practiced saying the names of every major foreign leader in the world. I expect her to do a lot better in the debates because there won't really be any followup questions, and that's where Palin's ignorance comes out.

[Bette Noir]

61. That' s what makes it funny.

She doesn't put the buzzwords in the right places, or in the right order. Couric asks her about the economy, and Palin repeats something about health care and job creation.

This debate is going to be comedy gold. I've gotta go pop some popcorn.

[SemperEadem]

16. you know what is scary here?

there are 30-55% of our neighbors out there who think her answers were totally on the mark--that she answered the questions sensibly and rationally---that they'd be hard pressed to come up with a SCOTUS case they disagreed with--because they don't pay attention to things like that. They worry about gays having the right to marry; Dems taking their bibles and guns from them... they see this knucklehead as one of them and they are happy as lipstick wearing pigs in slop that she won't answer Couric's questions.

[Wetzelbill]

17. Bingo

[krkaufman]

33. Exactly. Roe v Wade is the *ONLY* Supreme Court decision wrongly decided. n/t

[SemperEadem]

65. I'm shocked that she, as a fundamental christian,

blanked on Engel vs. Vitale, the decision banning prayer in public schools.

[tclambert]

69. But Brown v. Board of Education reversed Plessy v. Ferguson

One of 'em's gotta be wrong. P v F was the "separate but equal" decision. B v BoE said that don't work. Choose one, Sarah. You got a 50% chance.

[Rotato]

18. Joe Biden

is going to eat her alive and spit out bones. And fancy glasses.

[FourScore]

19. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for her. That was pathetic. n/t

[Muttocracy]

21. so her strategy is like right wing pundits - fill the voids with filler phrases

Asked this on another copy of the video - did she just mangle the definition of Federalist? It's been a long time since I took history, but...

[TheEuclideanOne]

22. Gotcha Journalism at it's finest

Imagine that, asking her a question about other Supreme Court Rulings. Who knew that this would be a stumper. Do not forget that this is Katie !@#$% Couric!!! You go to her for Softball questions, or to avoid people like David Letterman. If you screw this up, the next step is only Hannity or Rush. I must say, though, that it is so cool to see Katie ask follow up questions in these interviews.

Seeing her and Biden's answers side by side makes me so excited that I am going to a debate watching party tommorrow.

[JoaquinD]

23. This debate is already over

Just hearing both sound bites made me ever confident that this debate is over. Listening to Biden is so refreshing. All that experience and insight and proof...and then listening to Palin...clueless, wingin' it, and trying to talk her way out of not knowing it. If Biden is as cool and direct tomorrow night, it's going to be clear and the election is going to be won. Who in their right mind would want this woman at the side of an old man in the most important post on Earth? With Biden, I can sleep at night and not worry about that call at 3 o'clock in the morning.

[PatSeg]

26. And I've never, never

seen Biden unable to answer any question and answer it well. He is a walking encyclopedia.

[Sydnie]

24. I'd like to know if her "culture of life" extends to so called "anchor babies"

Would be interesting to hear what she thinks about that issue, wouldn't it?

[krkaufman]

32. She keeps pushing "culture of life" and I want someone to ask her ...

... about the death penalty and preemptive war. (i.e. isn't the Bush Doctrine contradictory to a "culture of life"?)

[CrispyQ]

56. Your 'culture of life" doesn't apply to wolves, does it Sarah.

:grr:

I can't bring myself to watch that vid where they shoot the wolves from a plane, but it has turned a few people I know completely against her. They weren't solidly in either camp, but they are now solidly for Obama-Biden.

[tclambert]

71. Anchor babies = babies immigrants have in the US

specifically to help them achieve legal status. Babies born here are US citizens.

Bet if you asked Palin about that term she would pretend you said "Anchorage babies." Intellectually insecure people like Bush and Palin fear admitting they don't know something. Instead of simply saying, "I don't know that term. What's it mean?" they will pretend they do understand it, and get it painfully wrong.

[MichDem10]

28. Deer - meet headlights!

[Willo]

29. Well, he has been doing this since she was two.

Built-in fail excuse.

[ihavenobias]

30. K & R

[krkaufman]

31. States should be allowed to violate citizens' Constitutional rights?

Palin is literally saved by the bell. Couric and CBS let her off the hook, ending the segment with Palin unable to cite a single other Supreme Court decision besides Roe v Wade -- let alone one with which she might take issue.

But it should also be noted that Palin again demonstrated her inability for complex, abstract thought... responding to Katie Couric one moment that she believes that the US Constitution *does* have an inherent right to privacy -- which Couric emphasizes is at the core of the Roe v Wade decision -- and then saying in the next moment that abortion rights should be left up to the states. So the states should have the right to violate their citizens' Constitutional rights? Or maybe Palin just doesn't understand the function of the Constitution?

Gotta love her. What a meatbag of memorized soundbites and talking points.

[jberryhill]

38. You actually have to be pretty clever to catch that...

I had to go back and see if Couric said "in the Constitution" after "privacy" (my wife caught it).

I wasn't sure if Palin was saying that states should work out their own privacy regime, or if, as you say, she was saying that states should be able to violate the Constitution.

In all fairness the issue doesn't come up in Alaska, because the Alaska Constitution has an express right to privacy which, as a matter of fact, was the foundation of the decision that made it legal for Palin to smoke pot when she did.

(as if that's what this airhead was really thinking about)

[krkaufman]

39. It follows her pattern of responding with talking points or what she thinks ...

... is a safe and expected response.

She agrees that the Constitution expresses an inherent right to privacy, after which Katie highlights this right to privacy as the core of the Roe v Wade decision.

And then, it seems clear to me, Palin returns to her talking point that abortion rights should be left to the states; completely contrary to the just-expressed Constitutional right to privacy.

[jberryhill]

41. Ah, but, she rambles on to say that "states should decide.."

Decide what? How much privacy to provide under their state constitutions, or abortion in particular.

Palin talks over Couric when Couric makes the privacy-Roe connection, so her statement, while stupid, is spinnable - particularly in view of the fact that the AK constitution itself says the "right of the people to privacy is recognized and shall not be infringed."

So, a clever RW pundit could spin it as Palin having said that she believes in a right to privacy, and that states can provide greater privacy under their own laws than under federal law - which indeed they can.

But that would be assuming too much on the statement given.

[MrMickeysMom]

34. Parah Salin, alright...

that lovable Bush doll in a swim suit with 2 bumps on her chest and a camel toe.... Please...

Why doesn't she join other women who abuse microphones like Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin (and such as) and join the parade as one of Charlie Gibsons US American angels, for goodness sake?

[Mother Of Four]

40. Must----

....find the delete button on my head to remove that HORRIFYING image of Bushes head on Palins body in a swimsuit...and a.....toe.


:puke:

Dang...there went my trail mix :cry:

[Wetzelbill]

45. that image just sexually aroused the whole Republican base

Proving once again, that John McCain's pick of Palin was pure genius.

Yeah I threw up in my mouth a little.

[MrMickeysMom]

51. Ooh.. sorry about that...

Now, make sure you don't see that imagine tonight at the debates (what debates?)

:-)

[Muttocracy]

35. quite the contrast there, yup yup. nt

[Wetzelbill]

44. you're just biased to Biden

:)

[nadine_mn]

37. "culture of Life" .... while you slaughter wolves from the air

That's why Putin's head is in our airspace... to make you quit killing wolves

[Wetzelbill]

43. Republicans compartmentalize their thoughts

That's why they can talk about things like the culture of life in one sentence and not even flinch at the hypocrisy of advocating war, the death penalty or slaughtering wolves in the next sentence. In their minds they see know relation to these things.

[snot]

48. considering her baseline level of knowlege of nil,

she does a disturbingly fine job of bs'ing her way through an answer.

i'm afraid she's not totally stupid; just ignorant.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

50. I am so glad the both of them are in this video! Please read the youtube comments!!!!

[TheFarseer]

52. She's a Federalist?

that is for state's rights? Aren't those things in direct opposition to one another?

[lumpy]

68. Obviously she goofed when she said it should be a state issue

re. choice. As she said it .."should be a state issue, in that sense a Federalist issue" a Federalist is one who believes in states uniting under a centralized government. You are right, those things are in direct opposition to one another. She should have learned that in high school or somewhere along the way in her pursuit of education. She throws words around that may sound impressive giving the impression that she is fountain of knowledge. God, I hate bullshitters and she is proving, beyond a doubt, to be a big one.

[Doodler71]

53. What... we're hetero-whats? I'm offended.

;-)
I can see the smear ad now...

Announcer: (sarcastic tone man) Joe Biden called America heterogeneous. Is that who you want for Vice President?

You could almost see Joe realize that he used a word that was just above that 5th grade reading level they aim for in media and search for a more common adjective.

[CrispyQ]

57. Heterogeneous:

A heterosexual genius! }(

Where's the problem?

Oh, my bad! I should know that any genius is also a fucking elitist!

[lumpy]

70. BIden used the word in the proper sense, but you make a good

point. You can be damned sure some jackasses will consider that a smear against people of sexual persuasion other than heterosexual.

[Jennicut]

54. Joe comes off as intelligent but not a know it all. I think he will do fine in the debate.

And I appreciate his efforts against violence directed towards women.

[merh]

55. As governor of Alaska she should have responded by discussing

the Valdez oil spill case. (Exxon v. Baker) She didn't have to name it, she could have gone blank on the name, but she should have known about it and discussed it since the question was "What SC case do you disagree with." That case impacts her state, the citizens of Alaska, and has been on going for 19 years. It just came down in June of this year and she gave an interview about on Aug 30.

She just went blank and babbled talking points that made no sense, the McCain camp has made them their stepford candidate, she has no independent thoughts and cannot even access her own memories and experiences.

[Wetzelbill]

62. I think you're on to it

She cannot possibly be as bad as she has been lately. I've seen her debate in a clip before and she's pretty good. I can't say she's ever been that great in any interview or anything like that, but she's been awful in the Gibson and especially Couric ones.

I think she knows what she knows and it worked well for her in Alaska. She doesn't go in depth into anything and can present herself well. It takes a little bit of intelligence to do that, maybe not a lot but some.

But now she's on a national stage, she's scandal prone, she has all of these people trying to get her to learn all these different complex issues and then relearn a bunch of other stuff she knew and it's all smashed into superficial talking points for her. It's like they erased what she knew and crammed a bunch of talking points into her, on most of it is on topics she knew nothing of in the first place. She sounds like a short circuited robot the way she incoherently rambles from point to point.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

64. I think you're on to it, too.....

"She sounds like a short circuited robot..."

Yes she does.

[Egnever]

58. Gonna be a great debate

[Bette Noir]

59. Joe Biden has a brain.

Sarah Palin's head is stuffed with straw.

Any questions?

[Best_man23]

63. Do those Heterogeniuses have Green Cards?

Damned illegal aliens.

[Plucketeer]

66. Darling Sahara

She's actually a gift to the Obama/Biden ticket. If McCain really DID consider her before tapping her for the VP spot, he must've based his decision on how best he could hand the election to the Democrats. :crazy: And I gotta say - shy of asking OJ to join him, he did pretty good with dame Sarah! :rofl:

[tclambert]

73. Hey, Sarah, how about Texas v. Johnson?

The Supremes ruled burning the American flag was protected speech. Doncha jus wanna smack 'em for sayin' it's OK to flambe Ol' Glory? She wouldn't know the name of the case, of course. I looked it up on Wikipedia. But surely, she knows the gist of the decision. "Ooh, Katie, there was that one on flag burnin'. What were they thinking, saying it's OK to burn the American flag? 'Cause it's just not. No way. Why, it's not even patriotic."