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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:43 AM
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Citing Atheists Offensive in Obama Inaugural Address?
 
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:50 AM
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1. OMG I don't believe in Mike Huckabee
But other than that, I believe in many things other than myself. And I don't believe in God.

These guys are absurd and offensive.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:07 AM
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2. Aw, poor Christians.
One word in a really long sentence, and all of a sudden they're being oppressed again.

Tough shit, Mike.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:09 AM
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3. Message to Mike Huckabee.
We're here. We're atheist. Get used to it.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:12 AM
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4. Mr. Huckabee, you too are a non-believer
You do not believe in Allah, or the Great Goddess, or Brahman, or Ahura Mazda, or Amaterasu, or Apollo.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:19 AM
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6. Good point. n/t
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:38 PM
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17. My favorite quote!
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:19 AM
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5. Try and keep up the war with religion Huckabee, it only continues to
prove what a fucking hypocrite you really are.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:24 AM
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7. Fux Spews. Faith-Based and Unbalanced.
poor us!! those big meanies won't give us ALLLL the toys. We want our toys and all yours too. Booo hoo!! Waa Waa Waa.

DAmnyouburninhellforeverandeveramenjesuslovesyou.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:41 AM
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8. Mike Huckabee is scared. A lot of Christians are scared that we
are going to gain in numbers (which we are) and have an influential voice with President Obama. Pres. Obama is already showing signs that he's going to run his presidency in a more secular way. He's already undone a lot of the past Administration's Christian driven policies. They are already suspicious of whether Pres. Obama is a "true Christian" or that he may be the anti-Christ. So the more they wail and cry foul, the happier I am because Obama has no toleration for the Christian Fundies and their hate-based intolerant messages. I am so happy that Obama, again, has brought another taboo subject out in the open for discussions to begin. Fox News should be fair and have the leaders of the major secular organizations on to give their sides. But we all know just how unlikely that would be.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:40 PM
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18. Obama has no toleration...
...for the Christian Fundies and their hate-based intolerant messages.

********

Except of course during the inauguration....
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:48 AM
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9. LiberalViewer rawks. (ACLU lawyer)
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 09:48 AM by PerpetuallyDazed
I subscribe. Good Faux News debunking.
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mt13 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:58 AM
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10. bullshit...
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 10:00 AM by mt13
being an agnostic, I found both the Fox anchor and Mike Huckabee's comments offensive. On 1.20.09 during President Obama's speech, there was a round of applause at the viewing party I was attending when those words were spoken. Everyone there, a mixed bag of people - believers and non-believers, were elated that he was all-inclusive. It was refreshing to hear those words. It was a topic of much discussion after the inauguration was over.
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:14 AM
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11. Just more bigotry coming from the "religious" right in this country...
but there are plenty of religious people from the center and the left who agree with Huckabee and Faux Opinion on this topic and are just as bigoted.

As an atheist I have received as much negative comments from center and left leaning people as those who come from the right. Now, unless specifically asked, I don't talk about my lack of religious belief to anyone. It is not worth the hassle factor.
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Hyper_Eye Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:28 AM
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12. As an Atheist I think I am a lot less self-involved than most Christians
They are so focused on getting themselves into heaven (that even the staunchest believer questions on the inside) that they will involve themselves in it to the detriment of everything else. I remember having a conversation with a fundie about why global warming is important. His position was not that he didn't think we could damage the planet (though he contended he didn't think we were the cause of global warming.) His position was that, even if we were causing global warming, we don't have even near enough time to destroy it before the rapture. So he didn't think it was something we should concern ourselves with at all. Instead we should be reading our bibles and going to church. I told him that his position was a dangerous one. I told him that he is so sure of his unprovable belief that he wouldn't even do his part to prepare for the possibility that he was wrong and our children or their children would have to suffer the consequences of his closed-mindedness. That was about where our discussion ended.

I believe in more than myself. I believe in humanity's common goals. We all want to be comfortable, eat well, be entertained, enjoy time with our families, make love from time to time, and succeed individually and collectively. There is this one life and it is only so long. So it should be spent wisely and we should try to keep good company and make good decisions throughout. I didn't need any false prophets or thick guides to tell me that.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:39 AM
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13. Oh and one more thing, Huck.
Here's some other highlights from the speech.

"...but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things."

"...the God-given promise that all are equal..."

"...the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny."

"...with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us..."

"Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America."

So does that mean we non-believers should be 5 times as offended as you?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:02 PM
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20. Thanks to DU member "charlie"...
...for doing the research for my reply above.

I forgot to give him/her credit, and it was too late to edit.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:44 AM
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14. Fox News is a joke...
and its viewers are the punchline. What is infinite amounts of fun is to throw out actual facts and counter statistics at one of these Sheep and watch themselves twist into a pretzel...

Kudos to Obama for at least acknowledging that this is, was and ever shall be a SECULAR state. Now, he needs to take this a step further and end the ludicrous practice of ending EVERY damn speech and address with "god bless you and may god continue to bless this nation".

That kind of blatant pandering was an offshoot of Reagan and is emblematic of every failed philosophy and discredited and failed policy of the last 28 years. History already has the corpse of Reaganomics to decompose...its time to also relegate the trite verbiage to that same dustbin...
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Nostalgic Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:16 PM
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15. I thought I'd post here
a quotation that someone posted in YouTube:

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts

Anyway, Faux is trying to create controversy over something so insignificant. Unfortunately a lot of their viewers will believe what they say.
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Hyper_Eye Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:15 PM
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21. Richard Dawkins said it this way...
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:23 PM
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16. more offensive was pres. bush's hatred of Atheists (HW not the recent twit)
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:52 PM
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19. This is one nation under God.
Only since 1954, old man. Geeze...the USA wasn't even "under god" when you were born...moran!

Today there is a Repug movement to add...

"indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn"

Let's all add something to the Pledge, shall we? It'll be 2 and half hours long but we can get it all in! I'd like to add "bow-doe-dee-oh-doe".



"Crazy for the red blue and white.....and yellow fringe..."
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:15 PM
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22. Bush acknowledged non believers twice
in a 2004 press conference following his election, which many political experts said was supported by evangelical voters. Bush said, in part:

... I will be your President regardless of your faith, and I don't expect you to agree with me necessarily on religion. As a matter of fact, no President should ever try to impose religion on our society. A great -- the great tradition of America is one where people can worship the way they want to worship. And if they choose not to worship, they're just as patriotic as your neighbor ...

at the National Prayer Breakfast in 2006, Bush said:

In our country, we recognize our fellow citizens are free to profess any faith they choose, or no faith at all. You're equally American if you're a Jew, or a Christian, or a Muslim. You're equally American if you choose not to have faith.

So what's the big deal?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:04 PM
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23. He mentioned atheists, Oh noes. Whatever shall we do?
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 04:04 PM by usregimechange
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