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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:34 PM
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BBC: Israeli troops admit Gaza abuses
 
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Racist and sexist Israeli military shirts show the mindset that led to war crimes in Gaza

- March 20, 2009 -
link: http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/racist-and-sexist-military-shirts-show-the-fruits-of-israeli-militarism.html

Ha'aretz is continuing to divulge soldier testimonies from Gaza. You can find the fullest report yet here. The messianic fervor that fueled the Israeli policy of collective punishment is laid bare.I'm not going to comment on it yet, just go read it. link: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072475.html

There is another report in today's Ha'aretz that I do want to comment on. Uri Blau's article "'No virgins, no terror attacks'" describes the practice of Israeli soldiers getting custom clothing printed with their unit's insignia along with graphics and text. Below are some examples of shirts that were printed, along with some of the images. These images only appeared on Ha'aretz's Hebrew-language website:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html


A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him.


T-shirt printed at the request of an IDF soldier in the sniper unit reading 'One shot - two kills'.


A sharpshooter's T-shirt from the Givati Brigade's Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull's-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."

After Operation Cast Lead, soldiers from that battalion printed a T-shirt depicting a vulture sexually penetrating Hamas' prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh.

A "graduation" shirt for those who have completed another snipers course depicts a Palestinian baby, who grows into a combative boy and then an armed adult, with the inscription, "No matter how it begins, we'll put an end to it."

There are also plenty of shirts with blatant sexual messages. For example, the Lavi battalion produced a shirt featuring a drawing of a soldier next to a young woman with bruises, and the slogan, "Bet you got raped!"

A few of the images underscore actions whose existence the army officially denies - such as "confirming the kill" (shooting a bullet into an enemy victim's head from close range, to ensure he is dead), or harming religious sites, or female or child non-combatants.

"Let every Arab mother know that her son's fate is in my hands!" had previously been banned for use on another infantry unit's shirt. A Givati soldier said this week, however, that at the end of last year, his platoon printed up dozens of shirts, fleece jackets and pants bearing this slogan.

"It has a drawing depicting a soldier as the Angel of Death, next to a gun and an Arab town," he explains. "The text was very powerful. The funniest part was that when our soldier came to get the shirts, the man who printed them was an Arab, and the soldier felt so bad that he told the girl at the counter to bring them to him."

In 2006, soldiers from the "Carmon Team" course for elite-unit marksmen printed a shirt with a drawing of a knife-wielding Palestinian in the crosshairs of a gun sight, and the slogan, "You've got to run fast, run fast, run fast, before it's all over." Below is a drawing of Arab women weeping over a grave and the words: "And afterward they cry, and afterward they cry."

Another sniper's shirt also features an Arab man in the crosshairs, and the announcement, "Everything is with the best of intentions."

A shirt printed after Operation Cast Lead in Gaza for Battalion 890 of the Paratroops depicts a King Kong-like soldier in a city under attack. The slogan is unambiguous: "If you believe it can be fixed, then believe it can be destroyed!"



These shirts have to get the approval from IDF commanders and are a military tradition, although the explicit nature of these shirts seem new. Bar-Ilan University Sociologist Dr. Orna Sasson-Levy is quoted as saying the shirts are "part of a radicalization process the entire country is undergoing, and the soldiers are at its forefront." Israeli anti-militarism activist Sergeiy Sandler, who works for the important organization New Profile, emailed this article out saying the shirts are "a long-standing tradition in Israeli military units; you see those shirts, although usually with less outrageous designs, on the streets all over the place. A picture's worth a thousand words, isn't it?"

I don't imagine these types of shirts are unique to Israel. I bet there are similar ones created by US soldiers in Iraq. But the shirts do point to an environment where mass war crimes can be carried out. They reflect a mindset where Palestinian life is disdained, when it's even acknowledged. One of the soldiers says it best in their testimony describing the killing of a mother and her two children: "the atmosphere in general, from what I understood from most of my men who I talked to ... I don't know how to describe it .... The lives of Palestinians, let's say, is something very, very less important than the lives of our soldiers. So as far as they are concerned they can justify it that way."





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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 05:49 PM
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1. Israelis told to fight 'holy war' in Gaza

By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem

Many Israeli troops had the sense of fighting a "religious war" against Gentiles during the 22-day offensive in Gaza, according to a soldier who has highlighted the martial role of military rabbis during the operation.

The soldier testified that the "clear" message of literature distributed to troops by the rabbinate was: "We are the Jewish people, we came to this land by a miracle, God brought us back to this land and now we need to fight to expel the Gentiles who are interfering with our conquest of this holy land."

The claim comes in the detailed transcript of a post-war discussion by soldiers, publication of which has triggered a military police inquiry into allegations about the use of lethal firepower against unarmed civilians.

The investigation was ordered by the military's advocate general Avichai Mandleblit on Thursday after the liberal daily newspaper Haaretz published extracts from the transcript describing incidents in which Palestinian civilians were killed and property wantonly damaged.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelis-told-to-fight-holy-war-in-gaza-1650616.html
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 07:47 PM
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2. "Sociologist Dr. Orna Sasson-Levy, of Bar-Ilan University…...

said that the phenomenon is “part of a radicalization process the entire country is undergoing, and the soldiers are at its forefront. I think that ever since the second intifada there has been a continual shift to the right. The pullout from Gaza and its outcome - the calm that never arrived - led to a further shift rightward.

“This tendency is most strikingly evident among soldiers who encounter various situations in the territories on a daily basis. There is less meticulousness than in the past, and increasing callousness. There is a perception that the Palestinian is not a person, a human being entitled to basic rights, and therefore anything may be done to him.”

Could the printing of clothing be viewed also as a means of venting aggression?

Sasson-Levy: “No. I think it strengthens and stimulates aggression and legitimizes it. What disturbs me is that a shirt is something that has permanence. The soldiers later wear it in civilian life; their girlfriends wear it afterward. It is not a statement, but rather something physical that remains, that is out there in the world. Beyond that, I think the link made between sexist views and nationalist views, as in the ‘Screw Haniyeh’ shirt, is interesting. National chauvinism and gender chauvinism combine and strengthen one another. It establishes a masculinity shaped by violent aggression toward women and Arabs; a masculinity that considers it legitimate to speak in a crude and violent manner toward women and Arabs.” "

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/






'Haniyeh: the whole the dick is in (that is, 'raped by') the Riflemen



'Every Arab mother must know that the fate of her son is in my hands' (photo: Nir Kafri)



From left: "The smaller, the tougher" "Only God forgives"


http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:11 PM
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Out of the mouths of babes!
 
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:11 PM
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3. Cue the Israeli apologists in 3, 2, 1...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:14 PM
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4. Calling AIPAC...
Convicted spy Jonathan Pollard can't wait to get our of jail so that he can move to Israel and join the IDF and get all of his frustrations out.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:21 PM
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5. K&R. nt
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:26 PM
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6. Thanks for posting this, Douglas n/t
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:31 PM
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7. k&r
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:36 PM
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8. Kick and recommend. n/t
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:49 PM
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9. The truth needs to come out. K & R
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:04 PM
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10. The "Fence" has had its effect n/t
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:43 PM
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11. K&R. Thanks for posting this...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:18 PM
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12. Gaza war crime claims gather pace as more troops speak out
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 11:33 PM by Scurrilous
Fresh allegations have come to light that gung-ho leadership inculcated a culture of disregard for Palestinian casualties

<snip>

"An investigation by a group of former Israeli soldiers has uncovered new evidence of the military's conduct during the assault on Gaza two months ago. According to the group Breaking the Silence, the witness statements of the 15 soldiers who have come forward to describe their concerns over Operation Cast Lead appear to corroborate claims of random killings and vandalism carried out during the operation made by a separate group of anonymous servicemen during a seminar at a military college.

Although Breaking the Silence's report is not due to be published for several months, the testimony it has received already suggests widespread abuses stemming from orders originating with the Israeli military chain of command.

"This is not a military that we recognise," said Mikhael Manekin, one of the former soldiers involved with the group. "This is in a different category to things we have seen before. We have spoken to a lot of different people who served in different places in Gaza, including officers. We are not talking about some units being more aggressive than others, but underlying policy. So much so that we are talking to soldiers who said that they were having to restrain the orders given."

Manekin described how soldiers had reported their units being specifically warned by officers not to discuss what they had seen and done in Gaza.

The outlines of the evidence gathered comes hard on the heels of the disclosure by the Oranim Academy's pre-military course last week of devastating witness accounts supplied by soldiers involved in the fighting, including the "unjustified" shooting of civilians.

The claims appear to add credence to widespread claims of Israeli soldiers firing on civilians, made by Palestinians to journalists and international investigators and lawyers who entered Gaza at the end of the conflict and in its aftermath."

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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:46 PM
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13. Democracy NOW: Israel Promises Internal Probe After Soldiers Describe Civilian Killings, Lax Rules

of Engagement in Gaza Attack



link to watch or listen via online streaming or download or read full transcipt:

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/20/israel_promises_internal_probe_after_soldiers

The Israeli Military Advocate General has for the first time called for criminal inquiries into the conduct of Israeli troops in Gaza. The request came in response to soldiers’ testimonies that described loose rules of engagement, troops firing on unarmed civilians, and troops intentionally vandalizing property during the three-week assault on Gaza. We speak to Gaza-based journalist Amira Hass of the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

Guest:

Amira Hass, Gaza-based correspondent for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

JUAN GONZALEZ: The Israeli Military Advocate General has for the first time called for criminal inquiries into the conduct of Israeli troops in Gaza. The request came in response to soldiers’ testimonies that described loose rules of engagement, troops firing on unarmed civilians, and troops intentionally vandalizing property during the three-week assault on Gaza. The soldiers’ accounts are published in the Israeli daily Haaretz and based on statements made a month ago by graduates of the Yitzhak Rabin pre-military preparatory course.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak told Israel Radio that the incidents would be examined and added, quote, “We have the most moral army in the world.”

AMY GOODMAN: We’re joined now on the line from Gaza by Haaretz correspondent Amira Hass.

Amira, welcome to Democracy Now! The Haaretz newspaper describing this as a several day exposé, Israeli soldiers in their own words, talk about its significance.

AMIRA HASS: Its significance, of course, is that the soldiers actually confirm what Palestinians have been telling for the past three months, and journalists who listen to Palestinians and believe Palestinians and know their work of taking affidavits and testimonies from Palestinians have done so during the last three months. This is the main importance, because it’s—we don’t know the exact locations of this.

And it’s not the only—it’s not the only incident. Some Israelis might get the impression that the soldiers who spoke spoke about the only incident of killing civilians and of very lenient—lenient rules of engagement, and this is not true. The whole attack—the three weeks of attack were characterized by these attacks on—almost indiscriminate attacks on civilians, attacks on people who carried white flags, attacks on rescue teams, not to mention the attacks from the air at whole civilian neighborhoods.

So I would say that—of course, it was not my report. Haaretz did a great job at putting a lot of emphasis to this testimonies of soldiers. It drew attention to what many Israelis managed to ignore during the last three months.

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http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/20/israel_promises_internal_probe_after_soldiers

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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:14 AM
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14. BBC: Israel troops admit Gaza abuses - print article - link

An Israeli military college has printed damning soldiers' accounts of the killing of civilians and vandalism during recent operations in Gaza.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7952603.stm


Israel frequently claims to possess the most moral army in the world

One account tells of a sniper killing a mother and children at close range whom troops had told to leave their home.

Another speaker at the seminar described what he saw as the "cold blooded murder" of a Palestinian woman.

The army has defended its conduct during the Gaza offensive but said it would investigate the testimonies.

The Israeli army has said it will investigate the soldiers' accounts.

The testimonies were published by the military academy at Oranim College. Graduates of the academy, who had served in Gaza, were speaking to new recruits at a seminar.

" conveyed an atmosphere in which one feels entitled to use unrestricted force against Palestinians," academy director Dany Zamir told public radio.

Heavy civilian casualties during the three-week operation which ended in the blockaded coastal strip on 18 January provoked an international outcry.

Correspondents say the testimonies undermine Israel's claims that troops took care to protect non-combatants and accusations that Hamas militants were responsible for putting civilians into harm's way.

'Less important'

The Palestinian woman and two of her children were allegedly shot after they misunderstood instructions about which way to walk having been ordered out of their home by troops.

"The climate in general... I don't know how to describe it.... the lives of Palestinians, let's say, are much, much less important than the lives of our soldiers," an infantry squad leader is quoted saying

"The climate in general lives of Palestinians are much, much less important than the lives of our soldiers.

-- Soldier testimony


link to full article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7952603.stm



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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:31 AM
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15.  Another disturbing element reported by the soldiers was the role of military rabbis

in distributing booklets that framed the fighting as a religious war. “All these articles had a clear message: we are the Jewish people, we have come to the land by miraculous means, and now we have to fight to remove the Gentiles who are getting in our way and preventing us from occupying the Holy Land… a great many soldiers had a feeling throughout this operation of a religious war,” said one soldier.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=266334&mesg_id=266334
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:47 AM
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16. K & R
"No matter how it begins we'll put an end to it."

Wow.

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:57 AM
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17. K & R!
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:39 AM
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18. How much worse can things get? nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:53 PM
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20. . .
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:13 AM
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