Stephanopoulos: Kennedy Would've Supported Ditching Public Option

[Why Syzygy]

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OMG. Get the barf bags ready.

[snake in the grass]

1. Stephanopoulos, you lying sack of shit!

You worthless media whore! Just shut your fucking mouth!

Sorry, Why Syzygy. I know it's not your fault and this walking penis will never read my words, but I couldn't help myself. I just couldn't. There is no level that is too low for this scum. I hope Karma bites his ass really hard.

[DrDan]

5. what part of reality do you disagree with

[snake in the grass]

7. I'm pretty sure the Democrats will sell us out.

No one will have the guts to do what has to be done. That's reality and I accept that, but to suggest that Kennedy would go along with the capitulation is, based on his record, unfounded speculation. On the one side, we are criticized for politicizing his death, yet it is fully acceptable for this animated pile of primate feces to posthumously read Kennedy's thoughts and channel his wishes. Kennedy made it quite clear in his final year what he wanted and it wasn't continuing on with the current programme of letting the insurance industry dictate the parameters. Stephanopoulos pulled that one right out of his rectum and for that he should be bound, gagged, and thrown to the fucking jellyfish!

[DrDan]

8. I don't think he said that - didn't he say that the Dems are going to

have to rely on the Kennedy tactic/strategy of negotiation or compromise? He did not say that Kennedy was supporting anything in particular with respect to Reform.

Kennedy was a negotiator/compromiser.
Health Insurance Reform is in jeopardy in the Senate.
Anything resembling the full package is in jeopardy this year.

Aren't those all facts? That is what I heard him say. I did not hear anything specific as to what Kennedy was will to compromise or negotiate away from Reform. That was never said. It is just conjecture.

[rhett o rick]

9. That's exactly the point. He utters the talking points that reform is in jeopary

and we will have to compromise even more and more and more. That is so much health industry propaganda.

CorpMedia continues to try to kill the public option and one method is to falsely report that it is already dead.

Yes Sen Kennedy would negotiate but he would never let the people down by compromising away the public option. Without it a bill would be worthless.

NO MORE COMPROMISE, NO MORE BIPARTISAN SHIT. FUCK THE REPUKES AND THEIR ABC CORPMEDIA.

[snake in the grass]

12. I'm totally with you on that.

No more attempts to compromise with those who want no compromise. Jesus Hussein Christ, we are running the show now! They had their chance and they blew it. They fucking blew it! They need to be told to sit down and shut the fuck up.

[DrDan]

14. "we" are running the show

problem is - "we" do not want a public option.

Sure - the liberal D's do - but that falls short of enough votes to pass it.

It is in jeopardy. Doubtful that it can happen this year. While the D's hold the majority - the majority is not united.

We cannot even get the admin to draw a line in the sand. Sure - the admin supports a public option - but ALL indications are that any bill will be signed - and painted as a victory.

We have been screwed.

[snake in the grass]

17. Yeah, I know.

We have been screwed (most likely). I'll be pleasantly surprised if it turns out otherwise, but the spectre of communism is still strong here.

"Freedumb" sure is expensive.

[Why Syzygy]

24. "line in the sand"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=222&topic_id=67553

[JDPriestly]

34. At this point, I think Democrats are hurting themselves by trying to compromise

with the insurance industry.

I used to be willing to accept the public option. At this point, it is clear to me that Republicans have placed Trojan horses in the "compromise" bills that will eventually emerge and destroy the Democratic Party and the credibility of all future reforms.

I therefore wrote my Congressman this morning that Democrats should pass H.R. 676. It is the only bill that will save our health care system. It is the only plan that Americans can afford.

Ordinary Americans will rebel against paying the kinds of rates that insurance companies will have free license to charge under any of the other proposals. The other bills are like the bombs placed on the Iraqi highways -- they will detonate just as Democrats try to run for office in a few years.

H.R. 676 -- if it doesn't get passed, then at least we won't have a Trojan time bomb blow up in our faces.

The other bills are just too expensive. As a nation, we really can't afford the high salaries, payments to lobbyists, profit-taking and management salaries of the health care insurance companies. It's time to just admit it. We are no longer the richest nation in the world. In fact we are rapidly becoming a third-world economy. We cannot afford the health insurance company vampires at our necks.

[DrDan]

37. "we" are not compromising

we caved on single-payer. Nothing is coming in return. That is not compromise. Compromise is give-and-take - not give-and-give.

I agree - no compromise on the public option. THAT is our line in the sane.

[snake in the grass]

10. Kennedy wanted medicare for all, and...

...he was intelligent enough to know that what people like Baucus are cooking will taste like shit to us. Instead of listing the facts, without all the fear-mongering, Stephanopoulos went with sucking cheese and then putting a Kennedy label on it to make it more attractive to the ignorant masses. Although the couple of seconds he needed to spew this shit will most likely be consciously forgotten by most of us, because of the fight that will soon ensue, this was one of the lowest moments in U.S. journalism.

[AlbertCat]

23. Kennedy wanted medicare for all, and...

....he never would've have ditched the PO. This is BS. This meme that the PO will never pass is complete BS.

[rhett o rick]

11. We aint seen anything yet. CorpAmerica has just begun to fight. They will lie, cheat and

probably worse. We are talking about money, billions, hundreds of billions. People are killed for less. CorpMedia will say anything to kill the public option. George is just one of their shills.

[DrDan]

15. not a shill that matters. The one's responsible for us losing

Reform are those that will be voting.

Face it - our reps are in the pockets of the big-money. It is very apparent.

[rhett o rick]

18. Agree that Congress is in the pocket of big money. I also agree that the

gullible chuckle-heads arent helping. But I feel one of our biggest challenges is media reform. When CorpMedia broadcasts corporatist propaganda day in and day out, we dont have a chance to educate the gullible.

Media reform, lobbying reform and campaign finance reform are the biggest worries.

[DrDan]

19. Lobbying and campaign financing reform can't come fast enough,

Media reform must be handled carefully. Any reform will be with us during the next R administration. I am only thankful we had free speech during the last 8 years. I am sure junior's band of cretins would have loved nothing more that to shut down the internet and NPR. Even though we lost in 2004, it was close. Without the internet, fear would have run more rampant than it did.

[Why Syzygy]

25. s'okay ..

I'm absolutely sick of hearing pukes tell us what WE GOTTA DO! Their only plan has been civil unrest.
It seems only fair that their media circus and disruption tactics backfire all over their Brooks Brothers.

[rhett o rick]

2. That has to be one of the lowest things I have ever heard. The insurance industry will stop at

nothing to defeat the public option.

[dotymed]

3. IF WE PULL THE PUBLIC OPTION

and name the bill after Ted Kennedy, can you imagine the
twisted signal that sends? Ted Kennedy wanted Medicare for
All. He compromised to a "public option" in hopes
that this would eventually lead to MEDICARE FOR ALL. To say
(Stephanopolus I hope you got paid a lot of money, you are
definitely not worthy to speak for Democrats ever again)that
Kennedy would have "sold out" the "Public
Option" is the sickest most heinous thing I have ever
heard. Why not ask his wife or his closest working protege?
YUCK!!!!

[rhett o rick]

4. Agree. I just sent them a message explaining how I felt. It wasnt nice. nt

[stlsaxman]

6. So- he's taking dictation from O'Reilly now, too?

[maglatinavi]

13. George the traitor

Who would have thought that this little wimp would become such a traitor. He should be feathered, tared and thrown on the Hudson without a life saver... What a shame to think he was ever one of us!!!
:-(

[edc]

16. Some people

refer to the likes of Stephanopoulos as media whores, but that is not accurate. They are to well coiffed and pampered for such an indelicate sobriquet,. They're actually more like courtesans.

[tularetom]

20. I'll defend him if no one else will

His show sucks less than meet the press.

And he is not as big of a douchebag as david gregory.

I wonder if these asswipes have any clue what people really think of them. I mean I think Stephawhatever, Gregory et al are corporate media whores with no principles. Wing nuts think they are liberal communist traitor atheist baby killers. But nobody fucking likes them.

Outside of their own beltway echo chamber that is.

Note: I never watch any of this crap. But my wife has it on as background noise sometimes and I can't help overhearing it.

[dhpgetsit]

21. Isn't it obvious?

Whatever passes this year will be a gift to the health insurance industry. It will require everyone to buy health insurance. The corporations are salivating.

But what We the People want is Medicare for all or something like HR 676. And the only way we are going to get it is if we really fight for it. I mean MASSIVE demonstrations nationwide. And a general strike to really grab the attention of Corporate America.

[Why Syzygy]

26. Ain't that the truth!

It is obscene to use all our sweat and tears to end up REWARDING the insurance leeches.
And that is EXACTLY the current stream of events.

Obscene.

[The Wizard]

22. Stephanopoulos

in a word: Quisling.

[hmorehead]

27. How does

78% (accourding to AARP) of the nation wanting a public option not make a majority? You mean Congree is not representational? You mean the President can't whip up the majority to get thier representitives into line?

[RowdyRacer]

28. I'll Say it Again...

The Democrats are like the Washington Generals, the team that travels around with the Harlem Globetrotters. Their role is to play the LOSERS.
They will pretend to put up a fight, but in the end they will always LOSE. Their money comes from the same sources as the GOP, and they dare not offend their benefactors.

[Honeycombe8]

29. Sen. Kennedy would not compromise on the Medicare Rx bill...he would NOT

accept that it did not have negotiation power for the prices Medicare would pay for prescriptions. I saw his speech on CSPAN railing against the bill. He was forceful, he was adamant, he had all his blown-up exhibits and charts, he was loud, and at times he was red-faced. He was spittin' mad about that bill.

Would he compromise on a health care bill that did NOT do what he always wanted done in health care for the average person? Like I heard someone on TV said....Sen. Kennedy has never compromised on health care, his signature goal in life. Would he compromise and accept a bill that would help some people pay for their ins. premiums, but would not accomplish the goal of providing health care to all or most? I don't think so.

BUT...I am wondering if Obama and Kennedy discussed this. I hope so. I hope Kennedy counseled him on this and that he wasn't too ill to give counsel. I suppose it is possible that Kennedy would compromise in this important aspect. I think that Kennedy would compromise in many areas of the bill, but not in the public option part. Still, I don't know that for a fact. He never made a public statement on that, did he?

[TankLV]

30. IN WHAT FUCKING UNIVERSE, YOU DUMBFUCK?!!!

TEDDY WOULD HAVE INSISTED ON "UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE" OR "MEDICARE FOR ALL", and not just a GIVEAWAY to the INSURANCE COMPANIES!!!

[CTyankee]

31. If I hear that from ONE MORE talking head, I'm going to throw up.

I have now heard this same friggin line from 3 different "commentators." Where do they get this shit? What gives them the right to say what Kennedy "would have" done? Compromise, my ass. Teddy NEVER compromised on principle!

[Divine Discontent]

32. George Steppie is a LOSER! needed said... what an asinine BS line of his to throw out that Kennedy

woulda removed the option! f*** that prick.

[mzmolly]

33. How dare he try to speak for the late Senator. He would have fought vigorously

for it IMHO. Perhaps he would have voted for reform if there were no other way, but that does not mean he's support ditching the public option.

[blackspade]

35. Epic Fail!

George is officially an idiot.

The public option is the one thing that Kennedy would likely not compromise on!
Health care for all has been what he has been after for years.
It would be a great tribute to him to pass a strong PUBLIC option!

[BootinUp]

36. He sure became more cynical with age.

and I don't think its right for him to suggest he knows what Kennedy would have supported.