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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:36 PM
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Olbermann Quick Comment: 'THERE Is Your Death Panel...'
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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - 9 February 2010: Insurance company refuses cancer treatements.

OLBERMANN: "The startling word that Great Britain's formal inquiry into the Iraq war may seek evidence from members of the Bush administration, next.

But now, tonight's first quick comment, and sticking with obstructionism, the little picture from health care reform remains much bigger than the big picture.

Kyler Van Noker has cancer. It was in remission, it's back now. The doctors have a do or die treatment that his insurance company considers investigational/experimental, so it will not pay for it. This is particularly odd because the insurers, HealthAmerica, covered two earlier investigational/experimental therapies for Van Knoker - stuff that had not even been approved yet by the FDA. Just a coincidence that the latest therapy for which it will not pay costs $110,000 for two treatments. Fortunately, Kyler Van Noker's hospital is giving it to him FREE while he sues HealthAmerica. Possibly because, otherwise Kyler Van Noker will give him his LOOK.

That's Kyler Van Noker.

Kyler is 5. That's the look he gave the Philly Daily News photographer. His disease is neuroblastoma, the childhood cancer that keeps creating tumors throughout the body. And HealthAmerica will not help him, nor his parents, nor the hospital pay for the drugs he needs to stay alive.

And there is your death panel, Bill Kristol.

There is your death panel, Betsy McCoy.

There is your death panel, Sen. Grassley.

THERE is your death panel, Sarah Palin."


http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20091202_Ronnie_Polaneczky__The_insurance_company_vs__Kyler_s_life.html

Posted on Wed, Dec. 2, 2009

Insurance vs. Kyler

By Ronnie Polaneczky
Philadelphia Daily News
Daily News Columnist

LOOKING at Kyler VanNocker, whose fifth birthday was Monday, it's impossible to fathom that he could die from the disease he's battling.

He's bright-eyed and energetic as he tears around the house he shares in Edgewater Park, N.J., with his parents, Paul and Maria, and siblings Kaden, 6, and Anelise, 3. He's just as active at pre-school, where he's learning his numbers and the alphabet.

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MIBG is "less toxic than chemotherapy, and is usually tolerated well by patients," says Grupp, a world expert in neuroblastoma, thanks to CHOP's status as a national referral center for kids with the rare disease. MIBG therapy is the only effective treatment available to Kyler at this stage of his illness. Without it, he won't live to see his sixth birthday.

Unbelievably, Kyler's insurance carrier, Harrisburg-based HealthAmerica, has denied coverage for the treatment, which it considers "investigational/experimental" because there is "inadequate evidence in the peer-reviewed published clinical literature regarding its effectiveness."

The therapy is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, another criterion that HealthAmerica requires.

"It's considered experimental because not enough kids with recurring neuroblastoma live long enough" to become candidates for MIBG, says Paul VanNocker, 44, a heavy-industrial-equipment salesman (Maria, 37, is a homemaker). "So, really, all treatment at this stage of Kyler's disease is considered experimental."

Only about 650 children in the United States are diagnosed each year with neuroblastoma. Half of them, including Kyler, have the most lethal form of the disease. So it's tough to study a large enough cohort of patients like Kyler to yield research results that HealthAmerica might consider valid.

But that doesn't mean MIBG is ineffective.

"It's considered the standard of care in Europe and the United States for recurrent neuroblastoma," says Grupp. "It's not an unproven treatment with no basis in medical science. Actually, the results are often very good."


Kyler's Facebook Group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198597602804&ref=share

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HBravo Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:50 PM
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1. WOW!
Go get em Kid!:grr:
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:48 PM
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2. Hope you don't mind .... I cut and past and sent to tea bagging co-workers
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 10:23 PM
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3. Always remind them: Health crisis/medical bills NO. 1 cause of bankruptcies and foreclosures in U.S.
Sixty-two percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were linked to medical expenses, according to a nationwide study released today by the American Journal of Medicine. That's nearly 20 percentage points higher than that pool of respondents reported were connected to medical costs in 2001.

Of those who filed for bankruptcy in 2007, nearly 80 percent had health insurance.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/health-care-reform/2009/06/new_study_shows_medical_bills.html

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/24/after_20_years_of_filmmaking_on
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 10:59 PM
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4. Well stated! K&R n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:08 AM
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5. Astoundingly touching!
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:18 AM
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6. K&R, helderheid - Olbermann once again kicks Repuke ass.
I've forwarded your post to my entire email list - with emphasis on the "THERE is your Death Panel" to anyone I have listed that's even moderately RW. (Not many, unfortunately in this instance!)

So fucking sad. :cry:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:29 AM
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7. Good on ya, Keith!
And many vibes to Kyler Van Noker.

May you heal and recover from your disease, and may those sitting on your death panel meet hell face to face.

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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:26 AM
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8. I, too, wonder how high salaried insurance execs can sleep at night knowing
that the salary money they put in their bank accounts, ( by the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars) has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO with providing any single person one ounce of health care!

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:13 PM
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9. Delay, delay, delay. If big insurance delays long enough maybe they'll get lucky
and the cute, little kid will die. This is obscene. All sick people and their families need to keep the phone number for the local media handy in case they have to shame a big corporation into saving their lives.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:51 PM
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10. I would like to forward this to Grassley
Would you mind if I did?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:37 PM
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11. Mega K & R
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 05:39 PM
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12. Best of luck to Kyler Van Noker
I hope he beat this cancer. Looks like such a sweet boy.

I hate HealthAmerica and all the other for profit death panels. :grr:


Sonia
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:53 PM
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13. This made us both cry. Death panels... INDEED! Great call, KO. And love to Kyler!
Can we start a fund or something?
Just wonderin'
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