Life exists on Titan evidence is found by NASA

[lovuian]

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I document events and this one is special
It is the fact that we may not be the only life forms in the Universe

I think this is an important point in our consciousness

[Swede]

1. It would be monumental news,all right.

If on Titan,life can exist anywhere.

[TheEuclideanOne]

56. True, but Meth based life forms?

How hard could they be to find? Just look for aliens with really bad teeth.

[Deep13]

2. This could have been a two-paragraph print article. nt

[Xipe Totec]

3. There is an article

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19005-hints-of-life-found-on-saturn-moon.html

unfortunately this video has no information, just pretty pictures and headlines.

[lovuian]

6. Excuse me this is based on the Telegraph article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7805069/Titan-Nasa-scientists-discover-evidence-that-alien-life-exists-on-Saturns-moon.html
Much of the info is in that video
I admit I placed pretty pictures of Titan in it with its atmosphere and content
and pictures of Titan plus of the Big Universe
but thanks also for the link of the other article

[TheMadMonk]

5. And it is amazing how quickly "evidence not inconsistant ...

...with the existence of life." morphs into proof of its existance.

[lovuian]

7. Hey prepare yourself trickle by trickle

from the vatican Oks that the Alien is our brother
to Water on the Moon
to now this Titan has life

you see the pattern
they are preparing us that Life exists on other planets

we are not the only ones in the universe

[Confusious]

20. "Evidence not inconsistant with the existence of life." morphs into proof of its existance.

I'll second that statement.

Your "New Agey" self is getting ahead of science.

It'll probably turn out the radiation ( OMG! we've radiated saturn! We desroy ecerything! ) belt of Saturn are making the gas changes when the intersect the atmosphere of titan.

If there is life, it's probably nothing more then single cell amoeba.

they are preparing us that Life exists on other planets

If the aliens are so far advanced they can make it here, I would think they would have the intelligence to notice we can't even get along with our own kind. Why bother?

[Richd506]

24. I know it's such a drag isn't it

Everything sucks

[Confusious]

26. Not everything

Not love, not laughter, not children. ( Not women. Ahhh... fine works of art.. Now only if they weren't so crazy... but I believe that's my failing )

It's disappointing how things are and that they get better at a snails pace. If we can avoid destroying everything, there is hope.

There's always hope.

[Birthmark]

15. That's evolution for ya! nt

[teknomanzer]

17. Right. Talk about jumping to conclusions...

No doubt this is very exciting news, but we need to have more conclusive evidence or a sample of a life form before making such bold statements.

[breadandwine]

42. Well, if you'd like more info and better video, consider MARS - we can visit there ---

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8397882

and join the discussion there. Dr. Bob Zubrin has figured out how to get to Mars on NASA's existing budget. Very stirring, meaty video compared to the one on this thread.

[Joanne98]

4. NASA didn't even notice Jupiter lost one of it's belts!

I don't know if I believe them anymore.

[lovuian]

8. I hear you on that ....but you have to see the campaign

to prepare us for the coming revelation
that Alien Life exists on other planets

this is just one more piece given the Ok to the public
the recent Water on the Moon is another
and the preparation by the Vatican that "Aliens are our brothers"

is preparation for the people of the world

trickle by trickle ...it comes

[Joanne98]

11. They should just release the Bluebook files. We already believe in UFO's.

[Confusious]

21. the recent Water on the Moon is another

If you pay attention, there is water pretty much everywhere in the solar system.

Moon, Mars, Jupiter moons, Saturn Moons, pluto, ort cloud.

and the preparation by the Vatican that "Aliens are our brothers"

Why the vatican? Have they been molesting the Aliens? Or maybe.... the aliens like molesting! AHA!

[breadandwine]

43. Don't waste time with water on the Moon. MARS has OCEANS of water underground and we can settle it.

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


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[Demstud]

18. What the hell are you talking about?

Of course they noticed. They weren't for sure WHY it lost its belt, but were perfectly aware that it happens on occasion.

[Joanne98]

57. No they didn't an amateur discover it...........

Jupiter loses a belt

Over a period of a year, one of Jupiter's two main dark belts -- the dark stripes most visible in amateur telescopes -- has faded completely away. The South Equatorial Belt (SEB) is gone, leaving just the north belt (NEB) viewable in small telescopes. Credit: Anthony Wesley
Astro Bob explains in more detail, remarking: "Jupiter with only one belt is almost like seeing Saturn when its rings are edge-on and invisible for a time -- it just doesn't look right." But, apparently, this is an event that happens rather more frequently than the Saturnian equinox, once every 3 to 15 years.

The photos above are from Anthony Wesley, the same guy who discovered the impact scar on Jupiter last year; but you don't need to be as fabulous an astrophotographer as Wesley to see this for yourself. You do, however, need to get up early; Star Walk (my iPhone astronomy app of choice) tells me Jupiter rises around 3:30 a.m. right now. If you don't feel like getting up early, just check out Wesley's website for more wonderful photos of Jupiter.

http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002477/

[Hugabear]

9. "Could be life" and "hints of life" is not quite the same as "there IS life"

The articles linked in this thread don't actually specify any direct confirmation of life, merely processes occurring that could indicate life exists on Titan. We've been down this road before, with scientists making grandiose claims based on indirect evidence, only to have to come back later on and admit that their conclusions were wrong. Fact of the matter is that there very well could be life on Titan, or there very well could be other natural processes taking place that we don't know anything about. When dealing with a totally alien environment, it seems somewhat foolhardy to rush into making judgments like this.


BTW - how exactly does this qualify as a "political video"? Shouldn't this be posted under GD or one of the science forums?

[Confusious]

22. scientists making grandiose claims

Scientists aren't. This doofus is.

[breadandwine]

44. Evidence of life on MARS is just as good if not better and we can GO THERE ---

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8397882

[ZombieHorde]

10. The video is bullshit. NASA has not made any such claim.

There may be life on Titan, but humans have not found any at this point in time.

[Demstud]

16. Got my hopes up...

I hate it when these amateur tin foil hat internet astronomers blow these things out of proportion.

[breadandwine]

45. Not accurate. Chris McKay is a NASA scientist saying there may be life on Titan.

He is also interviewed in this video about going to MARS and the evidence for life there is just as good if not better. We should go----


••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8397882

[ZombieHorde]

51. Check this out, from NASA's website...

Official NASA statement regarding life on Titan:
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/life/life_on_titan.pdf
See page 10

[Confusious]

54. Did you read his post

Did you read yourS?

MAY BE LIFE <----- that's not saying there is

[James48]

12. All these worlds are yours, except Titan.

Attempt no landings there.

[itsrobert]

14. Why the hell not?

? Are you watching too many Star Trek episodes?

[Donnachaidh]

19. uhh, that was EUROPA in the movie

:eyes:

[amyrose2712]

27. +

[breadandwine]

46. Then go to MARS instead ---

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8397882

[itsrobert]

13. The video is very Amateurish

Why is that? I hope NASA isn't producing videos like this.

[lovuian]

25. It is Amateurish because I am a Amateur

If you are looking for Spielburg
get Close Encounters of the Third Kind or ET
I'm just documenting the article in a visual way

You guys better prepare yourselves
this is saying scientists believing life exists on other planets

I know it is hard for some programmed little minds to allow that possibility
since the narcissism of believing we are the Masters of the Universe that God created to rule the Universe

but that thinking is going bye bye and soon

Some of us won't be shocked while others will be so lost and confused

[itsrobert]

30. What's with all the sniping?

I have always believed there is life on other planets.

[Confusious]

53. Yes, so do I

But I'm far from saying this a new age of Aquarius, where we all receive the knoledge of the universe without even having to work at it it, and bunnies will love wolves, and wolves bunnies.

The OP is.

[breadandwine]

47. Here's a better video and much longer, about going to the planet with life we can SETTLE NOW --

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


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[Blacksheep214]

23. As long as it eats gulf oil

and tastes like chicken, we welcome you to earth!

I want to watch the religious peoples head explode when they find they were wrong about everything. You just can't trust stoned goatherders from 4000 years ago to write anything besides science fiction.

[demwing]

37. Earth is the America of the Solar System

we think it all revolves around us

[breadandwine]

48. Titan doesn't eat Gulf oil. In fact, it has huge amounts of hydrocarbons there.

And we can't get there easily.

But we CAN go to Mars, the one planet we could actually live on ---


••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


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[formercia]

28. Obama should appoint Junior Ambassador without delay

and sent him on the next available rocket.

[pezDispenser]

31. I agree

and nominate Cheney.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. Scientists are surprised there's no acetlyene.

One of the dozens of possible explanations is a biological process. But it'd be one entirely unlike anything that exists on earth.

The belief in and quest for extraterrestrial life is exactly like a religion; anything that doesn't have an obvious explanation must therefore be proof of God extraterrestrial life.

The default explanation is "it's a miracle!"

[Blacksheep214]

32. We have extreme lifeforms on Earth

Not everything lives on sunlight and air and compared to carbon based humans, they are alien.

[Left Coast2020]

33. Well then there is only one way to settle this mystery:

Send the repugs there and let them give us the full scoop. Make sure there is room for Beckkk, Limpbutt, and whats her face from Minn too.

[Confusious]

55. Yes, but if there is life

They would have to be reclassified as EXTREME extremofiles.

Titan summer high today: A balmy −290 °F. Get the shorts out!

How would an amoebae wear shorts?

[breadandwine]

49. Belief in life on Mars is far more than religion. It has a lot of basis and we should go there.

Methane is being produced seasonally in alternate hemispheres (when it's Martian summer in a given hemisphere). This is strong evidence of life because there are no geological processes that would explain it there.


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[longship]

34. Overstated title, *but* this is AWESOME.

Recommended and :kick:ed.

[DRex]

35. The existence of life on multiple bodies within our solar system....

if confirmed, would seem to indicate that the universe is in fact teeming with life, relatively speaking.

This could change the way we calculate the drake equation.

[Confusious]

52. Or, it could be nothing

Someone said, titan has plate tectonics. Hydrogen can be catalyzed bu platinum. Plate tectonics could bring platinum to the surface.

There are a thousand things it could be.

Besides that, a microbe on a moon of Saturn gives you 2, (2!) data points.

Hardly a start to a new calculation of drake equation. Considering 400 extrasolar planets have been found, and a good percentage are nightmare worlds, I think it's a little soon to start breaking out the bubbly.


I think this is an important point in our consciousness <-- needs to retune the antenna. Could, Could, COOOOOOUUULLLLDD!

[DRex]

58. Like I said, if confirmed.

But having 2 confirmed and disparate life sources would change how we think of the drake equation indeed. As it stands we don't know how rare life is, and it could be the case that our planet, our solar system, is extremely unique in harboring life.

But if two bodies within the same system with substantially different atmospheres and surface chemistry both have life, it makes it far more likely that other systems, similar to our own, will have their own inhabited bodies, thereby changing the way I would calculate the equation.

If confirmed.

Of course, it can be calculated in many different ways, depending on the assumptions or estimates you make.

[AsahinaKimi]

36. If the fundies

could state they believe the Earth was only 6000 years old, and that man walked with Dinosaurs (not excluding Dinosaurs from their beliefs)

And if (and when) life is found in the Universe, don't you think they would come up with their own "intelligent design" theories to cover it all?


Maybe they would call it Anti-Life because, to them it would be evil.

[wial]

38. actually that was an old fundamentalist line:

around the time of the moon missions they were saying if any aliens existed they would actually be demons.

or course, the real demonic forces in our culture are precisely the virulent delusions of the fundamentalists.

[AtheistCrusader]

39. It would be important if your title was accurate.

Europa has conditions that COULD sustain life as well. So this is only news in the sense that there is another moon, in orbit around another planet that might support some very unusual life.

But zero evidence there is any there, yet.

[midnight]

40. Just one more thing on this President's plate. I suppose he will welcome this

over having to clean up after cheney.

[Lost-in-FL]

41. Good!

Now, leave them alone.

[breadandwine]

50. Good idea. Let's go to Mars instead. See this---

••• Video - Mars Direct - settlement on Mars in 10 years within NASA's EXISTING budget •••


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