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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:57 AM
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Obama thanks a war criminal.
 
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Posted on YouTube: September 03, 2010
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We don't presume to speak for everyone on the Left however we believe we share the sentiments of most of them..
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:21 AM
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1. You certainly don't speak for me. You go vote Beck/Palin and
when it's illegal to be gay, or brown, or homeless, or atheist, or have an abortion in this country, you get back to us with how it makes no difference who you vote for.

If it wouldn't completely fuck everyone else in this country, I'd love to see that little joke backfire.



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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:07 AM
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4. 2 things you seemed to have missed
1. I was fucking JOKING! In fact, the Kat even took me on about it in the freaking video and I couldn't keep a straight face. Get a sense of humor okay and
2. It really DOESN'T matter who wins - how fucking naive are you? Didn't you catch all of our videos and other, more learned folks' videos, in which they (and we) point out fact after fact showing how corporations control BOTH parties.

Care to rebut? I hope so!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:20 AM
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5. "I'd love to see that little joke backfire."
Apparently you are the one that missed something because I even acknowledged your little "joke".

Why on earth would I watch any of your other videos? This was the first I saw and saw no reason to seek out others.

Although, once again, you insist there is no difference between the parties and call me the naive one. I'll say it again, I'd love to see that little joke backfire.

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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:31 AM
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6. So that's it?
That's your rebuttal? And the distain exhuding from your comments comes forth loud and clear. No, my little joke won't backfire because I'm basing my views on 'empirical' evidence based on years of studying this entire political mess. Perhaps you should check out the Financial Times (England) article a while back. It contrasted the liberal/left joke over here with the real one in Europe. There are perhaps less than 5% of the populace over here willing to do what it takes to really exact true change in our country.

I know watching our videos are beneath a person of your intellect, LOL, however there was one in which we spoke about how to really change the political process in this country. It began with the primaries, write-in candidates from 3rd parties, et.al. It probably would bore a staunch party person like you however so I'll refrain from elaborating.

Now, unless you have something substantive to reply with, I won't bother commenting further.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:52 AM
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7. You are just insulting, so I hope you don't bother commenting further.
I pointed out what I think the some of the differences are in my first post, but you apparently missed that as well.

I don't agree with you. Get used to it. Many people here not only don't agree that there is no difference between the parties, but here on this site it's actually an alertable offense to suggest that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

"Select the rule(s) that this post violates:

Broadly suggesting that there is no difference between Barack Obama and George W. Bush, or that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. (Arguing that a specific policy is the same is permitted.)

...Advocating voting against Democrats, or in favor of third-party..."



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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:16 AM
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8. I'm sorry(NOT)
for not blindly obeying the rules set forth..

I never realized we were supposed to march, lockstep, like the right wing religionists. LOL

And, once more, had you followed my videos as you should have (joking again), you would have seen that I and my wife never blanketly supported 3rd party per se. We said, in 1 video, that "if you find progressive people like Kucinich, Waters, Grayson, then support them vigorously". We only said 3rd party as an alternative to the closed repubs. pretending to be Dems like the 'blue dog' crowd.

I'll await your apology.. LOL

Sorry for all the joking but I find your 'indignation' amusing to say the least and perhaps that's why we're in such a mess in this country - people don't practice 'critical thinking' on BOTH sides...
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:22 AM
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9. That's what I thought.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 09:28 AM by JTFrog
Nothing but insults.

*On edit - the comment in your profile doesn't make any sense to me. Must be more of that humor I'm not getting. :shrug:
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:49 AM
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10. I'm confused (again)
Nothing but insults? I believe I issued forth 'nothing but jokes'. In fact I can hear others laughing their arses off at this dialogue.

But I'm flattered - you actually checked out my profile? Wanted to see if you could get the goods on me? And the following comments on my profile make no sense to you:
"I don't find myself interesting enough to share unlike the millions of other aholes who think he/she is SSSOOOO unique."

I realize that when people are angry, as you seem to be, they stop comprehending and thinking so I'll interpret the profile comments. All they mean is that I'm a very boring person and therefore won't share any personal things about myself since they're as boring as I probably am.

In other words, I believe I'm expressing some kind of humility of sorts doncha think?

Now, where's that apology you owe me? ROFL

And naw naw naw (as I'm sticking my tongue out at the monitor) I just got the last word in so I win.. naw naw naw..

Seriously, if you ain't laughing by now then you REALLY have to get a life..
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:04 AM
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11. I guess it was the posting of videos and blog promotion
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 10:05 AM by JTFrog
that sort of threw me off of the humility thing. Well that and insulting folks who don't agree with you.

I guess I'll go see if I can find a bargain on a life now. :shrug:

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:45 AM
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2. I hear ya Raoul. and i know you're kidding
about the Beck/Palin thing but sometimes you wonder what if these assholes got what they asked for, would they finally learn?
Hell no. I don't think Obama cares anymore if he's a one termer either. It's a crime he's misused his political capital but who
knows what plans he has for the future. He's a young man and this is a short stint soon to be over and we have paid the price dearly.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:05 AM
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3. thanks but
now will you PULLEESSEE tell the misguided lib who wrote right above YOUR message? Thanks. ROFL

Regarding what you wrote about 'assholes getting what they deserve' - does it boggle your mind as much as it does mine and my wife's? I mean, last week I caught parts of the 'Beck getting back to god' rally and was amazed to see people in the audience drying tears from their eyes as Beck, Palin, and other assholes spouted absolutely NOTHING coherent or meaningful.

We can laugh at it on one hand but on the other I think we should be scared shitless. After all, these assholes actually vote.
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Thornleylv Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:54 PM
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12. Amazing how reality has been bent
It is incredible how badly people perceive reality when they don’t pay any attention basic, findable, researchable, recoded, provable and logical Facts.

Now you may one of them if you believe that President Obama has not accomplished much so far. This President has Passed historic Health Care bill that has eluded administration after administration. He has brought back two U.S. citizens from north Korea. Stopping a second world depression. Some other minor things like expanding student loans to millions, stopped a war. Wall Street Reform, and raising a family. On top of all of this his shoots baskets with cool people.

But I guess your right he just has spent his capital in the wrong places. It’s not like he prevented an epidemic like the Swine flu or maybe the biggest man made ecological disaster ever of won the Nobel Prize.
Yet he did it all while dealing with the worst out lash of hatred I have not seen since nineteen sixty eight. If you think about all the great men who have broken these racial barriers from Robinson to Mohammad Ali or the first kids to integrate the University of Alabama they all suffered great personal sacrifices.

Just like women have told me that they can do what ever I do but with heels on, well everything President Obama has done everything while being the first Black President of the United States. Talk about Hard.

You might be right though and he might not get eight years, I’ll vote for him, but what a hell of a two years he has had.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:41 PM
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14. Regarding your 'logical' facts
The historic healthcare, without a public option, was written by the HMO lobby. The day it passed healthcare stocks went up. Wall St. reform? Once more, in this case the wall st. banking lobby, wrote the bill. The day this was passed ALL banks stocks soared! Why? Care to comment 'logically' about that one?

He stopped a depression? Sorry but I believe we're still in one - perhaps the later stages of it but millions of us are still being hurt by his hesitancy and eagerness to kiss up to the right.

Look, personally I love the guy! If he runs again I'll probably vote for him too if there isn't any viable alternative. But I didn't drink the cool aid - I'm a pragmatic kind of person.
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:21 PM
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13. Why is it that every time a Republican opens their mouth
they expose the exact reason that abortion should be a mandatory thing.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:42 PM
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15. Yeah
you may not believe this but I've said the SAME thing a million times.. I've even gone so far as to say privately that they should give IQ tests to fetus's and.... well, you get the drift don't you?
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