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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:37 AM
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Anderson Cooper Keeps Congresswoman Bachmann Honest
 
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"Incredible Michele Bachmann Speech Gets Every Historical Fact Wrong"

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:38 AM
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1. Is there an ego enhancing drug that Bachmann is on. The guests gave her
a free ride. This was a joke of an assessment. How many seconds was the Professor given? Cooper's introduction sounded like the disussion was going to be OK. Begala and Molinari washed out and Molinari was as snarky as always. It was a win for Republican Bachmann lovers.

As to Bachmann - is she on an ego enhancing drug that also makes it easy to lie? Another clown in the running.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:26 AM
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2. Bachmann sounded like a fool.
But many Republicans didn't recognize when W Bush sounded like a fool. It appears to be a condition, sort of a pathology.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:00 AM
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4. it's called the Dunning–Kruger effect...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.<1> The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence. Competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."<2>

The Dunning–Kruger effect was put forward in 1999 by Justin Kruger and David Dunning. Similar notions have been expressed – albeit less scientifically – for some time. Dunning and Kruger themselves quote Charles Darwin ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge")<3> and Bertrand Russell ("One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."<4><5>). W.B. Yeats put it concisely thus: "The best lack all conviction, while the worst / Are full of passionate intensity." The Dunning–Kruger effect is not, however, concerned narrowly with high-order cognitive skills (much less their application in the political realm during a particular era, which is what Russell was talking about.<6>) Nor is it specifically limited to the observation that ignorance of a topic is conducive to overconfident assertions about it, which is what Darwin was saying.<7> Indeed, Dunning et al. cite a study saying that 94% of college professors rank their work as "above average" (relative to their peers), to underscore that the highly intelligent and informed are hardly exempt.<4> Rather, the effect is about paradoxical defects in perception of skill, in oneself and others, regardless of the particular skill and its intellectual demands, whether it is chess, playing golf<8> or driving a car.<4>

The hypothesized phenomenon was tested in a series of experiments performed by Justin Kruger and David Dunning, then both of Cornell University.<2><9> Kruger and Dunning noted earlier studies suggesting that ignorance of standards of performance is behind a great deal of incompetence. This pattern was seen in studies of skills as diverse as reading comprehension, operating a motor vehicle, and playing chess or tennis.

Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve.

Dunning has since drawn an analogy ("the anosognosia of everyday life")<1><10> to a condition in which a person who suffers a physical disability because of brain injury seems unaware of or denies the existence of the disability, even for dramatic impairments such as blindness or paralysis.

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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:29 AM
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5. interesting
and insightful
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Jankyn Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 12:25 PM
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6. Thanks for this.
I had no idea that this phenomena had been described by psychologists, but I've certainly run across it often enough! I'll have to look for their work. I appreciate the information.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:58 PM
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9. Thanks, that was excellent. I really appreciate it.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:38 AM
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3. Molinari needs one more face lift
and she'll have a go-tee.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:33 PM
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8. !!
:rofl:

It took me a moment...but I got it!
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silenttigersong Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:00 PM
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7. yup
Mickey Bachman and the GOP do not care what color your skin is they will take any slave.....
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