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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:06 AM
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Olbermann, John Dean on 9/11, PNAC
 
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Is Keith Olbermann a 9/11 "truther"? "I don't want to get into the nefariously coincidental..." Olbermann and Dean on 9/11 and the Project for the New American Century.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:25 AM
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1. "nefariously coincidental"
Powerfully suggestive, without having to admit to being a truther...

Nice!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:30 AM
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2. NOTE: At time of posting, this video was loading extremely slowly. My apologies. nt
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:10 PM
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3. Anyone with even a few functioning brain cells
must distrust this administration intensely. They have lied about EVERYTHING. Only the most stupid or gullible would assume they are not lying in a big way about the events of 911. It is absolutely undeniable that 90% of the important information about 911 remains secret. We know for certain that the administration was at best completely incompetent, negligently so. It is hard to explain everything through incompetence. And equally hard to argue how 19 cave-dwellers could have done this without collaboration from people on our side.

Were Bush and Cheney personally involved? Their tracks are undoubtedly well covered. But considering the players in PNAC are the exact same cast that bought us the Iran-Contra underground operation, it is plain to see how assets of US could have been manipulated to facilitate the 911 attack. I mean, these same guys have done this stuff before. It doesn't take much imagination.

And if you don't think that is a sufficient cast, we can now see the reach of companies like Blackwater and Halliburton who have profited so handsomely from the outcome. Until proven otherwise, the operating assumption should be that those companies had a hand in the "catalyzing event".

Where was Blackwater on the morning of September 11, 2001?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:58 PM
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8. One telling point that seems to scream "COVERUP"
is the 911 Commission's rejection of any investigation or follow up as to the 911 terrorists' financing.


Open Letter to Philip Zelikow and the Washington Post

By Nicholas Levis

911Truth.org

newyorkcity@snafu.de

NEW YORK, Oct. 7, 2004 —

Philip Zelikow, a high-level national security adviser to both Bush administrations, acknowledges that America faces a new infectious disease: lack of faith in the U.S. government’s 9/11 Commission report.

As executive director of the freshly-retired Kean Commission, Zelikow was a principal author of the 567-page document, which purports to explain everything that matters about September 11th, 2001.

SNIP

What about the reports that the Pakistani secret service ISI wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta? The ISI is often credited as the creator of the Taliban, and its operatives have been linked to the Bin Ladin networks. ISI is also linked to CIA, as historically close allies.

The ISI director, Mahmud Ahmed, was on a two-week visit to Washington and met for breakfast at the Capitol on Sept. 11 with the heads of the congressional intelligence committees, Bob Graham and Porter Goss. (7)

After 9/11, Graham and Goss oversaw the 858-page report of the congressional joint inquiry into 9/11, in which the term ISI never occurs, at least not in the 75 percent of the report remaining after “redactions.”

In all of the Post’s coverage of Goss’s recent confirmation hearings as director of the CIA, wasn’t the ISI breakfast worth an article?

The 9/11 Commission report fails to mention reports of a Pakistani connection, not even to explain them away, but at least it offers this gem:

“To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance… Similarly, we have seen no evidence that any foreign government - or foreign government official - supplied any funding.” (p. 172)

So who financed the attacks is of little significance. Now we know the first rule of the Kean Commission: Don’t follow the money!

http://911citizenswatch.org/?p=402


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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:35 PM
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4. Has Keith ever spoken directly, or interviewed anyone, about 9/11 conspiracy theories?
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 01:35 PM by Perry Logan
That would be interesting.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 02:01 PM
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5. Not to my knowledge, but others may know more. nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 02:38 PM
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6. one more rec, folks!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:00 PM
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7. Great vid K&R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 09:02 PM
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9. Actually, PNAC letter to Clinton trying to get him to attack Iraq was much earlier . . ..
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 09:05 PM by defendandprotect
It's sometime after the first attack on the WTC so after '93 . . . it may be '95 or '98 . ..
but these people got started long before just a year before 9/11.

By the way, Clinton said NO . ..


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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 02:11 AM
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10. Letter to Clinton
Sent Jan.16,1998. Search PNAC for all the info.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:03 AM
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11. Bill Clinton did say "No"...but Hillary (who knew about PNAC) voted "yes"...
...to Lieberman's Iraq War Resolution. ...Why didn't she try to stop a PRE-EMPTIVE attack on a nation that did nothing to us?

...She knew PNAC wanted to take over the Middle East, and she helped get the ball rolling.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:41 AM
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13. See? This woman makes me real nervous.
And it seems every poll taken has chosen her as the winner.
I honestly question if that is true.
I think, if they have to have a democrat in office - they want Hillary.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:11 AM
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12. a knife in the backto all of us of with that one quote
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 08:18 AM by alyce douglas
a willing public. so sad.
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:05 AM
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14. First question was
why would our government not want to investigate the downing of World Trade Center buildings 1, 2 and 7?

Why did they not want to know how and who had done this?

Did they have the answer already?
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:53 PM
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15. According to the German news, Die Zeit and Der Spiegel,
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 01:01 PM by petgoat
the Mossad warned of 19 terrorists in the US planning something big.
They even named names. Only four of the names have been released,
but they were those of two alleged 9/11 pilots, including Mohammed
Atta, and two other alleged hijackers.

Maybe that's where the FBI got their suspects list so fast.

The German press also claims that the 8-6 PDB "Bin Laden Determined
to Attack in US", was not 1-1/2 pages but 11 pages long.

If you look at the facsimilies of the document, you see a redaction
at the center of the bottom of both released pages. What could it
be but a page number? Why is a page number secret? Maybe because
it says "1 of 11" and "2 of 11"?

Here's the writeup about the 19 terrorists from cooperativeresearch

At the same time that the FBI was getting close to investigating Alhazmi and Almihdhar, the Mossad, Israel’s feared secret service, gave the US an urgent warning, according to recent reports from Germany. These reports say that on August 23, 2001, the Mossad gave the CIA a list of terrorists living in the US and said that they appeared to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future. The list of terrorists contained 19 names. It is unknown if these are the same exact 19 names as the actual hijackers or if the number is a coincidence. However, four names on the list are known and were names of the 9/11 hijackers: Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, and Mohamed Atta. It appears that a spy ring run by the Mossad had been closely following these terrorists for many months. In December 2000, Mossad agents rented an apartment in Hollywood, Florida, close to where Atta and Alshehhi were staying and attending flight school. They were closely spied upon until at least April 2001, when many of the Israeli agents were thrown out of the country.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaykhalidandnawaf 2/3 of the way down the page

Here's the writeup about the 11 page 9-6 pdb

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1388317



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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:11 AM
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16. So in short, Germany knew the attack was about to happen and even knew the names
of the would-be terrorist. Bush had to know, yet he gets a free pass from our congress and senate. In order to stop the attack, the lunatics in the White House really just had to pick up the phone and warn the airlines to look for these murderers.

...I wonder why this thread sank. Hillary supporters no longer fight to the finish to defend her. :shrug:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:19 AM
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17. According to the German news, the Mossad warned the CIA. nt
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:08 AM
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18. Never mind impeachment, when are we going to start talking TREASON?! ...n/t
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