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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:26 AM Original message |
What does the no-confidence failure say about our ability to remove Bush through impeachment? |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. Most of the Dems in Congress are just thinking about .... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. except "most of the Dems in Congress" voted for the no-confidence resolution |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm inclined to believe if we were to have the trial where all the evidence is layed on the table |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. The evidence on Gonzo was laid out. Everyone agreed he was bad. Where are the votes? n/t |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Well not really |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. What's "not really"? The evidence wasn't laid out? Or he wasn't already opposed?.... |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. The votes for what, exactly? A "no-confidence" vote is meaningless in our system |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Not in our media "system" n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Nothing, really. A "no confidence" vote is a meaningless, made up, copied tool. We don't do that |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Yes, plus (and it's a BIG +) non-stop m$m "news" reporting of all ... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. Maybe after '08, with a Democratic President, we can finally impeach Bush! |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. :-) / 2. (NT) |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. When and if we get a Democratic President.... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. Ah yes, the famous battle cry of the Democrats.."The votes aren't there" |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Is the statement incorrect? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. How do you know if it is correct or not if you don't try? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Because they lobby. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Lot to lose.... like maybe the US Constitution |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Ahh, good, I see you've decided to bust out the melodrama. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. The other option is not to venture nothing.... maybe that's why you're shrugging your shoulders n/t |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. That is indeed one other option and one I wish they would accommodate |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. More interesting question: Why were we so ineffective at blocking Alito and Roberts? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Did you forget the whole "nuclear" saga? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yet the Republicans used the filibuster, even though they opposed its use before. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Uhm, I hate to point this out to you, but... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Those "tactics" had nothing to do with the Republicans loss of the majority. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. That's exactly right Vash, we should not use their vindictive playbook. nt |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. "Patriot Act 1" was during the bush* personality cult |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Yeah it was tough. And we weren't. We were "go-along wimps". |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Are you forgetting that Patriot Act I was passed when most of the |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. A little leadership (from our side) might have helped aleviate the fear. (NT) |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I really believe that's playing monday morning QB! |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. You're only saying that because I've been saying the same thing since... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
9. i would be more impressed with subpoenas for Rove and little lord pissy pants, and harriet!! |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Right on.... |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Bush could be caught on film strangling an orphan while sodomizing a goat, |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
18. A LOT. There are not enough votes to justify the long process. Lean on your Repubs! nt |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. what Feingold said, we don't have the votes to prosecute |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. Uh, that our "majority" needs to be larger in numbers?!!1 Just guessing!!1 n/t |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. I'd settle for the complete utter destruction of the Republican Party |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
30. It says we are way long on rhetoric, way short on guts! n/t |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
36. I don't care |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. So, you see no benefit in what the Senate Dems did? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. I see Gonzo still in office and a Senate leadership not able to reach their goals n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I guess I don't expect big flashy gains but smaller, solid ones |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's telling me that it's up to us |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
39. It Says Nothing Really. There Was Zero Chance Of Removing Bush Before It And Zero Chance Afterwards |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You little freeper you. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. LOL Silly, Ain't It. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Well, I was looking to see if impeachment hawks were moved at all by the failure.... |
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