Bloomberg hands Thompson the 2008 Election

[andykef]

Mayor Bloomberg's decision to quit the GOP so that he can potentially run in 2008 could hand Thompson the election.
Unless the Democrats get their heads out of their backsides and nominate a winner.
These winners are: GORE, CLINTON and at a push OBAMA. NOT EDWARDS OR CLARK, DO YOU GET IT YET?

[Perky]

1. wow

:popcorn:


This is going to fun to watch

[Renew Deal]

2. I don't get it.

What are you talking about? How do you figure that Thompson wins the republican primary?

[MUAD_DIB]

16. WoooHoooo! He's a shoe-in.

That Thompson is on FIRE!

You know that he is tough on crime since he acts on law and order.

...and he once commanded an aircraft carrier in the movie Red October.


If anybody can defeat the terrorists on film then it jus has to be Freddy!

[0rganism]

47. The GOP is hungry for its next Reagan

So far, Thompson is looking like their best bet in that direction.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. I don't get it either.

Are you saying the Bloomberg will take more Democratic votes than Republican? If so, you need to give some reasoning.

[nickinSTL]

4. Ok...I'm not from NY, don't know Bloomberg that well...

but, can you explain why an independent former Republican will take more votes from the Dem than from the Repub? (regardless of whether than Repub is Thompson or anyone else)

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions here:
1. Bloomberg would take more votes from a Dem than a Repub
2.Thompson will win the Repub nomination
3.Clinton has a better shot at beating Thompson (or presumably whoever the Repub nominee is) than Edwards or Clark

I don't agree with any of these assumptions.

[NewJeffCT]

7. Bloomberg was a lifelong Democrat who switched to Repub

in 2001 to become mayor because he knew he could never win the Democratic nomination.

He's pretty moderate on a lot of issues - abortion, gun control, the environment - and even raised taxes, which is anathema to many Republics.

[soleft]

27. I would say he's actually to the left on all those issues

and in addition he's pro gay marriage. Not civil unions. Gay marriage.

[iamthebandfanman]

40. yup

ive always kinda threw his name out to people as being an okay guy really and they dont know much about him.. just that he was republican and they didnt like that... cause thats the kiss of death now... lol

but ive always told people since he got elected that his ideals werent really in line with the party he was working for. lol

[dsc]

8. He is against the war and will split the anti war vote

also he is pro choice and will split that vote. Finally he will do the best on the coasts where our candidate does best.

[NavyDavy]

11. don't count on it

[andykef]

12. GORE should run

Ok I understand your points.

I think that Democrats should worry about Bloomberg as it might put New York in play, especially if Ghoulini is on the GOP ticket.

Thompson is the corporate media candidate. He is already running 1st and is not even running!

However, I think that this could change the dynamics of the race and give rise to GORE.

GORE vs THOMPSON with BLOOMBERG would place Democrats in strong slightly left of centre postition in my opinion. (I know none of them are running)

GORE / Clinton
BLOOMBERG / Hagel
THOMPSON / Ghoulini

Now that would be a contest!

[liberaldemocrat7]

42. I view Thompson as the corporate media redneck Republican candidate.

Thompson will take up the vacuum left by Bill Frist and George Allen who both imploded.

Now we have a racist poor and middle class hating Republican with a southern drawl in the campaign. The Southern Republicans will flock to Thompson like flies flock to a dead carcass. Jefferson Davis could not have a better successor. Bush had to fake his southern accent but Thompson has one for real. Thompson will use the various code words for poorbashing, middle class issue diversion, so that middle class southern Republicans will vote against their economic interests.

[Strelnikov_]

51. Couldn't agree more

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Allen was the Reich's chosen successor. Since his defeat, the Oligarchs have been flailing around for their empty-suit redneck candidate that can manipulated. They seem to have found their 'man'.

On edit: Remember 2000? Chimp was the chosen that round. The Reich primary process seems to be quite similar to selecting a Premier in the Soviet Union.

[IndianaJones]

5. isn't Bloomberg basically Guliani without the mythical 9/11 street cred? nt.

[Renew Deal]

6. And a lot more likeable.

[razorman]

14. Likeability is a fine thing.

However, it is not at the top of my list of factors when deciding who to vote for. I much prefer competence and integrity. I am sure that virtually all big-time politicians are likeable, especially if you meet them in person. I figure that you don't get very far in that world being a complete jerk. That being said, personality could be the deciding factor, all else being more or less equal.

[razorman]

9. Actually, I think Bloomberg is planning to audition for the VP slot

in the Hillary Clinton campaign. He knows that he does not stand a chance of getting either party's support for him as Prez. So, since he would likely only hurt the Dems if he runs a third-party candidacy, he is hoping that Hillary(or whoever wins the Dem primary) will pick him as their VP to prevent him acting as a Ross Perot or Ralph Nader and siphoning votes. This is one theory, at least. It's still very early.

[Perky]

15. President and Vice President can not be from the same state

He wouldhave to quit as mayor and move across the river.

[Justyce]

19. Wow. I learn something new everyday here.

did not know that :hi:

[Renew Deal]

26. It came up with Cheney

he moved to Wyoming because Bush lived in Texas.

[Benhurst]

22. Bush and Cheney were both from Texas. Cheney pulled a stunt

with his second home in Wyoming no one else could have gotten away with trying to get a child into the state university where their vacation home was located. He didn't even bother to change his driver's license.

Of course Bloomberg doesn't have the corrupt courts in his hip pocket; but he might if the Republicans saw his running as an advantage.

[razorman]

29. To be entire fair, it was just as much a stunt when Hillary moved

to NY just to run for Senator. If the Moynihan seat had not opened, do you think she would be living in NY? If a seat in Montana had opened up at the time instead, she would probably have moved there. The point is, if such cynical strategies are legal, we shouldn't complain about them, unless we are prepared to change the law to prevent them.

[Benhurst]

31. Under the Constitution, one does not have to be a resident of a state to run for a Senate seat.

Of course, few non-residents would have a chance of winning. Elizabeth Dole, married to former Kansas Senator and Washington power-broker Bob Dole, ran from her mother's old house in NC for the U.S. Senate and won. She hadn't lived in NC since she left home for college. If NC and New York had residency laws, I'm sure both Senators Dole and Clinton met them.

According to the United States Constitution, the president and vice president can not be from the same state, unless of course the Bush Crime Family finds the provision inconvenient.

The United States Constitution means nothing to the Bush Junta and the corrupt political party which puked them up.

[hfojvt]

39. Cheney was a Wyoming Congressman

back in the 1970s, so, to their everlasting shame, he does have some connection to Wyoming.

[Benhurst]

43. Yes, he did. Just not a legal residency at the time which would have

made it legal under the Constitution for him to run with Bush.

[razorman]

23. I hadn't thought of that.

But there is plenty of time to change residences, I suppose. It didn't take long for Hillary to do it when she wanted to run for the Senate. Does NYC law require its mayor to be a NY resident?

[Perky]

32. He would probably quit to run anyway

It's not much of a bully pulpit and he is term-limited.

[Mika]

25. Unless its Bush/Cheney.

Both were from Texas (they both claimed Texas as their domicile, but the IRS allowed Cheney to revise his income tax claims for the 3 years prior to his VP bid to claim Wyoming as his domicile).

I had a feeling back then that the fix was in.

[mcscajun]

30. Not a problem; he can move back to Massachusetts.

He can afford to live anywhere he wants.

[MonkeyFunk]

49. Not exactly true

it just means NY electors could not cast votes for both of them.

[Justyce]

10. No, I don't get it.

First off, I've said from day 1 that Romney is the big threat & our worst nightmare -- I felt that the first time I really heard him speak. He's a psycho asshole like bush, therefore the ideal choice for them... And secondly, Edwards has the backing of the labor unions, a big chunk of the middle class & definitely a lot of the poorer voters, and a good chance in the south, so I don't see how anyone can rule him out. I think the media would most definitely like to rule him out though, for those very same reasons.

[andykef]

13. EDWARDS?

EDWARDS is NOT electable. PLEASE PLEASE give him up!

[Sydnie]

17. Your concern is noted

Next subject?

[Beaverhausen]

50. And Gore isn't running

just why isn't Edwards electable?

[no_hypocrisy]

18. A vote for Bloomberg is a protest vote for "None of the Above".

That's what puts him on the same dangerous level as Nader in 2000.

[GeorgeGist]

20. No_hypocrisy?

"That's what puts him on the same dangerous level as Nader in 2000."
:freak:
:nuke:

[shadowknows69]

21. Both Edwards and Clark

have a Better chance to win the general election than Clinton or Obama.

[andykef]

24. LOL

Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee

You just made Fred Thompson the 44th President!

[shadowknows69]

35. Fuck

I thought it was Bloomberg's fault. No really. There's a reason they are the frontrunners in the enemy's media. Because that's who the enemy wants to run against.

[emanymton]

28. Welcome To DU. The Joke Is On ...

.
the GOP. The latest poll numbers showing F Thompson leading the GOP pack this far out from the election, show only one thing, GOP do not have a candidate (yet) for whom the GOP can accept.

The issue of the Democratic Party is to STAY ON message! The Democratic Party have several outstanding candidates that the people will find acceptable.

I believe the election will turn on several major issues. One issue that will help eliminate the GOP candidate is the issue of torture. I may be projecting but I honest think most American people are intrinsically against torture. Great nations _NEVER_ torture and the people of USA know this. (Even the most hard-core Republican do not believe in torture.)

The candidates within the Democratic Party will carry the future when they stay on message and show they believe in doing the correct thing. The major factor for the Democratic Party is that they are not the GOP. So do not try to become like the GOP. Be honest with the people and the people will know it.

As for F Thompson, do you really think a Washington DC inside lobbyist will carry the day for the GOP?
.

[gauguin57]

33. The best thing about Bloomberg is his billions -- he needn't be beholden to ANYBODY politically.

Money in politics has destroyed our democratic system. DESTROYED it. A man who can pay for his own run for prexy -- not beholden to defense contractors and other fatcats to put him in office -- would be very appealing. Not to mention the guy is basically a freaking social liberal.

Not saying I'd vote for him ... but he has his appeal.

[KoKo]

34. But, you might want to think about how he made his billions and who helped him along the way

to make the billions. :shrug: Nothing is free of influence. He didn't make his money sitting in a room with the windows and doors closed.

[shadowknows69]

36. And just so we're clear about my feelings about Bloomberg for Pres?

Not just no, but HELL NO!

[nini]

37. well fuck the primaries then.. we'll just let YOU decide

:eyes:


get a grip

[shadowknows69]

38. cool

I pick Dennis or Al if he's running. Let's have it now!!!

[Bake]

41. Maybe this will convince Big Al to run!

One can hope.

Bake

[WI_DEM]

44. Man, I didn't know Tommy Thompson was so popular!

He's the only Thompson I know of who is an actual candidate for president.

[mmonk]

45. I'm not real good at being told what to do or who to vote for.

[cynatnite]

46. So Bloomberg will do what Nader did in 2000...

hmm. Maybe.

But he hasn't tossed his hat in the ring, either. I don't get why so many think he's running since he dumped the GOP.

[merh]

48. don't agree with all you have listed

but I'll welcome you to DU. :hi:

[Matsubara]

52. Talk about your premature posts.

Thompson - hardly a shoo-in.

Bloomberg - who says he's running?

The voters will decide who the democratic nominee will be, and who the final winner will be. What is it that makes Edwards and Clark so distasteful to you? From where I sit, they are both fine candidates, as are the others you named.

I don't get it, because I don't agree.