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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:06 AM
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Right Wing Whacko Spam E-mail...and My Response
Got the following in an e-mail. Let me know if you like my response.
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"Difference Between Liberals and Conservatives

A family is out for an evening walk when little Timmy decides to throw a temper tantrum, sits down on the curb, and refuses to go any farther. What do his parents do?

If his parents are conservatives, they bid Timmy a cheerful "B-Bye!" and keep right on strolling. Within a couple of minutes, Timmy will decide that coming along is more fun than sitting alone on the curb, and will run to catch up.

If his parents are liberals, the whole family will stop while the parents console and encourage Timmy until he is ready to proceed once more. This will only take a couple of minutes, and the stroll will continue.

Apparently, both methods work. The difference is what happens on the next walk. Y'see, the Timmy with the liberal parents has now learned that throwing a temper tantrum gets him attention, so he will do it again -- and he will continue to throw bigger and more elaborate tantrums as long as it works. Meanwhile, the Timmy with the conservative parents will never pull that shit again.

Yet, while the method used by the conservative family is clearly the one with long-term results, they are constantly berated by liberals for being cruel and heartless. "You just left Timmy there? How could you? What if he never caught up? He could have been emotionally scarred for life! There oughta be a law prohibiting such mistreatment!"

Would the conservative family have reacted differently if little Timmy had fallen down and broken his leg? Of course; they're not heartless, that's just liberal propaganda.

Will the liberal family ever learn how to get Timmy to quit throwing tantrums? Sure -- and that's why people tend to get more conservative as they get older: because they learn."

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Here's my "Reply to all" response

A family is out for an evening walk when little Timmy decides to throw a temper tantrum, sits down on the curb, and refuses to go any farther. What do his parents do?

If his parents are conservatives, they pray over Timmy, "Oh God, please make Timmy get up and walk". That doesn't work, but looking around, they see that no one else is praying. "If only we passed a law requiring everyone to pray for little Timmy, he would get up and walk". So, they make a big campaign donation to a politician and he passes a law requiring prayer, but it still doesn't make Timmy get up and walk. "Wait" say the conservatives, "the law requires you to pray to my God, not yours",..."it's all your fault, if you hadn't allowed people to worship in their own way, little Timmy would be walking by now"...still, despite their best efforts, Timmy still sits there on the curb. Then the conservatives look across the street and see two men sitting on the curb sipping beer. "Damn" says the conservative, "that culture of men sitting drinking beer is what's wrong" if only Timmy didn't have to see men sitting there drinking beer, he'd get up and walk". The conservative makes another donation to a politician and a law is passed banning sitting on the curb drinking beer. The two men simply move to a place where they can't be seen, but despite the "Culture War" against "beer-drinking-sitting-men", Timmy still sits there. Finally the conservative goes to Timmy and says, I'll give you $100 if you get up and walk. Timmy takes the money, and manages to make it about 10 feet before he sits again. The conservative is perplexed, but thinks, "if only the government would cut my taxes, I'd have even more money to "trickle down" to Timmy to get him to walk. So again, he goes to a politician and a fat tax-cut is passed. It increased the cost of goods and services for the poor and the middle class, but the conservative doesn't give a crap about them, he needs more money to make his son walk. He gives Timmy another $100, and Timmy walks another 10 feet. Finally, the conservative sees a hard working union man. His young son ran to the bus stop to meet his dad, and they walk hand-in-hand together back to their little two bedroom, 900 square foot patch of the American Dream, lunchbox swinging in his rough assembly line chiseled hands. The conservative approaches and says; "excuse me good man, but I just can't get my son to budge from this curb, I'll pay your son $20 if he would carry my son to the restaurant, it's only a block away". The union man looks at his son and says; "well, it's up to you tiger". The boy accepts the deal, puts Timmy on his back and carrys him to the restaurant. The conservative gives the boy $18 of the $20, because the extra $2 is so he can keep his profit margin up, you know, just in case he needs to hire more people to carry his son.

If his parents are liberals however, the whole family will stop while the parents check to make sure that Timmy isn't hurt. They'll tell Timmy that unless he stops his tantrum and walks with them, there will be no ice cream after supper. Dad extends his hand and gives Timmy a "leg-up" and Timmy gladly continues on, secure in knowing that his actions have consequences, and if he stumbles, the people that love him will help him stand up. Timmy's liberal parents also encourage Timmy to solve his own problems and teach him that the culture of sitting-beer-drinking-men has nothing to do with his ability to walk. Timmy saves every penny he has from his paper route until he has enough money to buy those sneakers with the in-line skates built right in. On their next walk, Timmy again gets tired and stops to sit down on the curb. He looks up at his mom, smiles and says; "it's OK Mom, I've got it this time". He pops out the skates on his shoes and happily rolls along with the family. His liberal parents tell him that they are proud he used his own imagination and initiative to solve his problem.

Apparently, both methods work. The difference is what happens for the rest of their lives. Y'see, the Timmy with the liberal parents has now learned that his actions have consequences, passing laws to stop people from sitting on the curb, or requiring them to pray is not the solution, that those that love and care for him will extend a hand to help him up, and that he can find innovative solutions to his problems. He also learns the value of hard work and saving your money so you can buy the things you need to improve your quality of life. He knows that if he ever gets tired and has to sit down, it's only a temporary set-back that he can overcome with the help and encouragement of those around him and his own work and initiative.

The method used by the conservative family is flawed to say the least, but everyone on Faux News and talk radio reaffirms their method and makes it clear that they are not at fault. It's the poor and the minorities that are not allowing their method to work, and the evil liberal media showing stories of people helping each other, are just biased against them. Conservative Little Timmy learns that he can get a lot of money from his dad just for sitting on his ass, and if he needs to go somewhere, he can get there on the backs of union workers and the poor. Little Timmy also learns that it's not his fault he was just sitting on the curb, but it was the "Sitting Culture" that made him sit there. Conservative Timmy also learned that if you have enough money, you can get the politicians to give you what you want, whether it be forced prayer, banning of sitting, or tax-cuts. He also learned that to him, it doesn't matter if the price of goods and services increase, paying for them is just a small portion of his wealth. "I only need to use 10% of my net worth to survive, why should I care that the union worker and the middle class have to use 90% of their net-worth to survive". Besides, he thinks, "the more money I have, the more the lower class will be able to carry me" Conservative Timmy sees this as a "win-win" for everybody. "I get more money, and they get to carry me". "Who could complain about that"?

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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:09 AM
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1. Brilliant!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:11 AM
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2. K&R.
If you want to make this into a book, I'll do the illustrations.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:19 AM
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8. Come to think of it
it would be a good book in the mold of "Why Mommy is a Democrat", wouldn't it?

I normally don't waste my time responding to all the Conservative Astro-Turf flooding the "internets", but for some reason, this one just pissed me off.

It may have paid off, as this particular person hasn't sent any more drivel my way.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:11 AM
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3. Excellent!
But, sadly, the conservative that sent you this will not understand the response, s/he'll have to pay someone to explain it to them.....:think:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:12 AM
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4. Nice!
That is a first class smackdown.


:kick: & R
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:17 AM
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5. Bwwwwaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!!! **snort**
I hope you hit "reply all."
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I always do! n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:18 AM
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6. Brilliant........absolutely brilliant! K&R
Bravo!!! :applause:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:18 AM
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7. Like most of these right wing emails, the entire premise is false
The liberal parents would do exactly the same as the conservatives parents in this ridiculous story.

When something serious comes up, though, the liberal parents know when to discuss it, not just say "do what I say because I say so" or put the kid down for having a problem.

The wingnuts need simple black and white frames. In fact, they are the ones who don't want to have to use any judgment. They are cruel, in fact, because when Timmie really needs help, they'll just brush that issue aside and not get him any counseling or really listen to him, they'll just put him down.

The simple minded nature of the right is what promotes their coming up with these silly stories.



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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #7
38. The "conservatives," believing that corporal punishment and...
authoritarianism are the answers would whack the kid a number of times, yell at him to stop crying and drag him away by the arm.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #7
39. That is exactly what I was thinking, too.
When my kids have temper tantrums, I stop to see if they're really hurt or if there's something really wrong. If not, I keep walking. They catch up. They do it again, and I keep walking, and they catch up. If they're hurt, I cuddle them, yeah, but they're young, and that's what they need.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:21 AM
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10. I use that "liberal" ice cream trick all the time!
on my 4 year old daughter. Works pretty well...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:21 AM
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11. LOL
Bravo! I hope you hit reply to all. :rofl:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:26 AM
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12. Also:
In the first part, the conservative family keeps walking off. Little Timmy sits and cries, until he is kidnapped by a stranger. When the parents wonder where timmy is, they go to look for him, but can't. Years later Timmy is found in another city, where he has been raised in a closet since the day he was kidnapped.

I agree with the other poster. These emails are all crap, and they all are based on asinine bigoted projections of what a liberal is supposed to stand for rather than what a liberal actually stands for. It's really easy to villify people when you can make up lies about them.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. After Timmy was kidnapped,
a search crew finds his body in a wooded area or a land fill. The same conservative parents are then seen on tv crying their eyes over the discovery of Timmy's body.
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tmlanders Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:33 AM
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13. Excellent!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:37 AM
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14. Conservative Timmy will rebel in later life because he had authoritarian parents.
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 11:38 AM by The Cleaner
Just the facts son, just the facts.

Apparently stuff like kindness, sincerity, understanding, love, compassion, and sensitivity aren't on these peoples agendas.

As for this article in general:
:puke:
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:38 AM
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15. A guy in the office sent out that one about
The difference between liberals and conservatives using the example of getting mugged - the liberal would agonize over whether the mugger was oppressed, a minority, etc. while the mugger proceeded to kill his family while the conservative response would, "Blam," (shooting the mugger). It was supposed to be an allegory for the Iraq War.

I replied back that the conservative version was a little off. The conservative family would be walking in an area of town they had been warned about but decided to ignore said warnings. The mugger would kill everyone but the dad with weapons that the dad had given him years ago. The dad would proclaim to all that listened that he would never stop hunting for the murderer, but when the murderer proved difficult to find, he decided instead to go after a guy (another former friend) across the street who had nothing to do with the attack. After finally chasing him down and getting his former friend tossed in jail to await execution, the father would proclaim that justice had prevailed. While all this is going on though, he consistently received and continues to receive videotapes from the original killer, mocking him and his inability to find him, the killer of the conservative's family.

The boss - a religious conservative - pulled the guy who sent out the original email - another religious conservative - into his office and told him to stop sending out political emails like that. Nothing happened to me. :)

TlalocW
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:41 AM
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16. You had me until Timmy used his Heelie...
bloody things are a menace.

But otherwise, excellent comeback. A few paragraph breaks would've helped, though.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. You're not suggesting
some type of "liberal" ban on Heelies, are you?

:evilgrin:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. If it helps your narrative in a later draft of this reply, go for it!
Seriously, I just find the things annoying. And of course my kid wants 'em.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:46 AM
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17. excellent! k&r
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:46 AM
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18. Now I hope I get that email. I'll be ready! n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:52 AM
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19. Even in the face that their BS is failing and that their chosen savior is a fraud
They still send out this shit.

Amazing.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:58 AM
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20. Have you gotten a response yet?
:rofl: I'd love to see that.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:05 PM
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22. Please add it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=284

Be sure to use the title of the e-mail as the subject line so other DUers can easily find it :hi:
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:10 PM
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24. These types of made-up stories infuriate me....
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 01:16 PM by emdee
The truth in my own life is that the conservative families let the kids run the household. One conservative cousin will tell the child it's time to go. The kid refuses. Three hours later we're still "ten minutes" away from leaving. Finally *I* have to tell the child it is time to go. EDITED to add: When my daughter tried the same tactics, I told her that we were leaving. The only question was whether she was walking to the car or being carried. She only tried it once. LOL

That's why these stupid made-up tales bother me so much -- usually they are nowhere near what we actually live.

Have you seen the "Bird Feeder" one going around now? I'll post it below while holding my nose. But, the FIRST THING I want to tell someone about that made-up fairy tale is that I've known my MIL for over 25 years now. She keeps multiple bird feeders hanging on her front porch and has never run into all the many problems outlined in the fable. She still loves having her morning coffee out on the porch watching the birds come and feed. Now, of course, I know that it is really talking about immigration but that's what I absolutely hate about making up stupid stories to make a political point. People use these idiotic things to *debate* an issue! Arg!!

The Bird Feeder A funny parallel

A true parallel that our so called leaders don't get...

by Dave Connell
"Land of the Free BECAUSE of the Brave"
June 13, 2007

I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
with seed.

Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.

But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.

Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
chairs, the table...everywhere.

Then some of the birds turned mean:

They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had
fed them out of my own pocket.

And others birds were boisterous and loud:

They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours
of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low
on food.

After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.

I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were
gone.

I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had
built all over the patio.

Soon, the back yard was like it used to be...... quiet, serene and
no one demanding their rights to a free meal.

Now lets see....... our government gives out free food,
subsidized housing, free medical care, free education and
allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.

Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.

Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to
be seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade
class is behind other schools because over half the class
doesn't speak English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual
box; I have to press "one" to hear my bank talk to me in English,
and people waving flags other than "Old Glory" are squawking
and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free
liberties.

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.

If you agree, pass this on.........
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. That one is "realllllllyyyyy" stupid
but I think these types of things are effective. Think of the impact of Grim Fairy Tales, or Aeosop's (sp) Fables. People still talk about those today.

It's nice, easy, convenience packaging for the right-wing, and it doesn't take much thought. Next thing you know, I'm comfronted with one of these anecdotes at the water cooler, on my coffee break, at the PTA meeting, or in my e-mail.

We ignore stuff like this at our peril. I think taking to time to reply and hit "reply to all" and smacking this stuff down is great therapy, and might just open some eyes to the propaganda they're being fed on a daily basis.

There sure are a lot of them out there.

The Ant and the Grasshopper
The Difference Between the Liberal and Conservative
The Fishing Story
The Mugging Story
A Day in the Life of Joe Liberal

and on and on, all at the same intellectual level as a Hannity debate.

I guess I had just had enough of this crap in my "in-box" and decided to take the time to reply.
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. Oh, I agree with you....
they have to be answered. They just make me so mad, though, because we have to put time, effort, and research into answering the crazy analogies that aren't based on any fact whatsoever. ARGGGGGGG

I'm thankful to have this site and sites like snopes to quickly have a way to answer --- but I wish we could actually debate a point with them. These tales serve a purpose and they do it well.

emdee
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #25
40. What's wrong with the Ant and the Grasshopper?
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 08:29 AM by C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
Edit: Are we talking about the same story? I'm referring to the original fable. Is there some conservative version (anti-welfare, I'm guessing) that I haven't heard?

Yes, the ant was cruel, but ultimately it was the grasshopper who relaxed all summer and couldn't be bothered to work. The lazy fool got what he deserved. It's one thing, a very good thing, to help those who can't help themselves. But if someone who is perfectly capable of supporting himself instead decides to slob around sponging off of others, then no, I don't think he deserves charity. I might not deliberately let him starve to death, but I'd sure as hell let reality slap him around for a while, before giving him a chance to earn an honest living.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #40
48. Yes
The one that was sent to me equated all conservatives with the "hard-working" ant, and all liberals with the "lazy grasshopper". Only, instead of starving to death, the grasshopper gets Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to file a discrimination and class action lawsuit against the ant, takes away his food and gives it to the grasshopper, forces the ant out of his home and ruins his life.

It's amazing that someone would take the time to twist these things to meet their own political agenda, but like I said, they permeate our society and the next thing I know someone is mass e-mailing conservative propaganda to me, or making an example of one of these stories at a PTA meeting.

When I have the time, I always reply and hit "reply to all" on these wing-nut e-mails. You'd be surprised how many times I get responses from others on the original e-mail tree thanking me for taking the sender to task.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #25
44. Sounds like a good idea for a website
Collecting these conservative fables and providing our own versions. A one-stop resource, like Snopes is for urban myths. Anybody got the time, skills or resources to create such a site?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #44
54. that's actually a great idea!
I don't have time right now, but maybe this fall.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. I just did a Whois search
The domain name www.conspam.com is available if you want it.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #24
53. wow. That one is horrible
our government gives out free food,
subsidized housing, free medical care, free education and
allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen


It does? First of all, I doubt the writer of that complained about it when they were simply born here and became an automatic citizen, and I doubt many of the freeper type of conservative would pass a citizenship test, based on their ignorance of American law and the Constitution.

Second of all, the idea that we have free medical care, education, etc. is a total joke. I'd like to know where I can get some of that, because my insurance is through the roof. Oh wait - it's because of "trial lawyers" right, not a greedy profit-based medical system. Whatever.

Perhaps that email should mention that those birds living on his porch hang his laundry, clean his house, and take care of the lawn for the pennies it costs in bird seed, and that 20 of them live in a cramped nest because they are not thanked for their hard work.
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index555 Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #24
59. While that story is stupid , it reminded me of a funny bird story.
My parents have several different types of bird feeders , when the seed feeders run out, the birds just resume foraging as normal.
but when the hummingbird feeder runs out , the hummingbirds will fly up to you , make that little screechy twitter they make , and fly back to the feeder and back to you again.
The hummingbirds have made the connection between people and the feeder , and if it's empty , the hummingbirds will "let you know all about it".

just a humorous aside.
:)
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:15 PM
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28. K&R, bookmarked for when hubby gets home -
would you mind if I copied and saved this to send out in some emails (attributed, of course)? This is the best rant I've read in a long time - and it gets right to the heart of the liberal vs. conservative mindset.

Fantastic!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #28
51. Absolutely
I wouldn't have posted it here if I didn't mean to share it. Use away. In fact, if you can clean it up any, have at it. English was never my strong suit.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:17 PM
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29. I LOVE IT!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:19 AM
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30. While the conservative family walks away,
neglecting Timmy, Timmy wanders out into traffic and is run over.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:47 AM
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37. No, Timmy was raped by a Republican Congressman...
who then went for an intensive two week counseling and was exonerated. Meanwhile, Timmy was denied health insurance for his psychological problems resulting from the rape, became homeless and was beaten to death in the street by right wing thugs who thought he was gay.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:34 AM
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31. Uhh... didn't the Berkeley study say conservative kids were whiners?
The liberal kids were independent minded and responsible, while the conservative kids threw temper tantrums and whined how everyone was against them. So the premise of this idiot repubic's story is wrong. Liberal kids don't throw tantrums, so their parents responses don't enter the equation. Sounds like one of those loaded scenarios they ask at republic debates.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:56 AM
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52. They'd just argue
that since the study came from Berkley, "it was obviously liberally biased". Must be soooo easy to be a neo-con.
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:12 AM
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32. Sweet reply...recommended n/t
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:32 AM
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33. Too many words...
Your response reflects our liberal sensibilities. We tend to think. Consequently your response has too many words for the average Republican. They'll see all those words and just pronounce you a treasonous liberal and be done.

I mean, look at what they've done to the United States. If they had any contact with reality they would be so horrifyingly ashamed, they would abandon the party that started America's misadventure in Iraq, the deaths and maiming of hundreds of thousands of innocents, made torture a government approved tactic and a litany of other horrors and embarrassments.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:33 AM
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34. I just got one.
My reply: Thank Zeus I'm a Liberal Democrat. Invoking Zeus really makes them nuts.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:28 AM
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35. I'm amazed at the conservative crap emailed...
This liberal busted his daughters butts when they were toddlers and tried that crap. Now that they are 10 & 12 there are no tantrums.

Always start out hard on them when they are little because you can always ease up later on, but you can't begin discipline as they get older. I think that is much of the behavior difference between cons and libs.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:46 AM
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36. I worked at a street fair last weekend...
...in what may be the most liberal neighborhood in the country. (Park Slope in Brooklyn, NY) I was there most of the day and there were a LOT of children!

I must have witnessed what was described in your fable at least a dozen times. I certainly didn't even consider it until I read this story. EVERY SINGLE TIME the child stopped and wouldn't move, mommy or daddy said something like "all right, Timmy, well the rest of us are going now! We'll see you when you get home!!" Of course, every single time the child split after 5 seconds.

Actually, a couple times the child was too young to be reasoned with. Each of those times, the parent simply picked up the kid and kept walking. If the kid started whining or kicking, the parent ignored that.

Where do these CONservatives come up with these bullshit stories anyway? I ask because they generally lack any kind of imagination, so it's surprising that they can string two sentences together...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:28 AM
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41. The conservative little Timmy, pissed off at being ignored by his parents,
grabs a couple of his dad's guns when they return home, kills his parents, goes on a violent shooting spree at school, and turns the gun on himself before police can apprehend him.

The liberal Timmy, realizing he's an integral part of a social unit that than can only function properly if he learns to work cooperatively with others to resolve conflict, goes home, finishes his homework, spends time with the family enjoying one of his favorite shows, discusses the story his parents read him at bedtime, and falls asleep after his goodnight kiss feeling loved and secure.

Y'see, conservatives are fucking nuts.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:54 AM
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42. Nicely played! n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:59 AM
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43. Timmy has a temper tantrum, sits down on the curb and refuses to move.
Conservative dad kicks him, picks him up by the hair & drags him along - using the most horrific expletives all the while.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:21 AM
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45. Nice work!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:21 AM
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46. I'll have to try your approach to the next ConSpam I get
A co-worker sent me one about Robin William's supposed "peace plan for the Middle East". I immediately recognized it as still another internet fraud with the same format: bullet points, one or two lines at a time so not to confuse short attention-spanned freepers, looking very much like a Reader's Digest "Quotable Quotes" article.

I replied-to-all, including my co-worker's wife and a ton of other people I have never met, with the Snopes link. After a while, he and one of the others replied with "well, he may not have said it, but I agree with every word!"

Haven't had another e-mail lately.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:26 AM
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47. wait a minute
Let me get this straight....

Y'see, the Timmy with the liberal parents has now learned that throwing a temper tantrum gets him attention, so he will do it again -- and he will continue to throw bigger and more elaborate tantrums as long as it works.


So, what they are saying here is that George Bush Sr. and Barb were liberal parents?? Who would have guessed :shrug:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:38 AM
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49. AWESOME repsonse!
:yourock:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:39 AM
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50. Fortunately, many of the Wrong-Wing Wackos refuse to own computers OR
You'd be getting e-mails with subject lines like this:

"All secular humanists are going to burn in Hell for eternity."

That's what the local wrong-wingers keep telling me. They are
so proud of themselves being born again, and just thrilled in
the confidence they, as believers, will be in heaven forever.

I thing the conservative parents would tell Timmy,
"Get up, or you will burn in Hell for eternity."
Timmy would promptly get off his sinful behind.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:11 AM
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55. The conservative family beats the living shit out of Timmy because Dobson told them to. End of story
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CardInAustin Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:47 AM
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56. Difference...
A family is out for an evening walk when little Timmy decides to throw a temper tantrum, sits down on the curb, and refuses to go any farther. What do his parents do?

If his parents are conservatives, they immediately seize upon the opportunity to extrapolate their experience to ALL the questions of the world. Obviously they have made a brilliant observation about how best to raise their child, and this wisdom can be utilized for everything from child rearing to wars to stem cell research. Their rigorous adherence to the scientific method assures us all that this finding is significant, and that it will work flawlessly every time Timmy throws a temper tantrum or little Ronnie wants to fund some bad bad research.

If his parents are liberals, they deal with the situation as best they can and move on. When they get home they discuss what they have learned with their child and later with each other. At no point do any of them feel the need to send out any spam regarding the earth shattering wisdom of their ability to get their child to walk down the street with them.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:57 AM
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57. FAN-FRIGGIN-TASTIC!!!!
What was the response from your right-wing spammer?
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:03 AM
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58. That's terrific! n/t
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