Rep. Pelosi responds to boos on war

[babylonsister]

http://thehill.com/content/view/66966/70/

Rep. Pelosi responds to boos on war
By Jonathan E. Kaplan and Sam Youngman
June 21, 2007

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) yesterday reaffirmed her commitment to end the war in Iraq, but her words were greeted with skepticism and some boos by anti-war liberal activists.

Addressing the liberal pressure group Campaign for America’s Future, Pelosi called the war in Iraq a “tragedy” and a “grotesque mistake,” but her words elicited catcalls for her to do more.

Pelosi acknowledged the protesters and even challenged them.

At one point in her remarks, she told the protesters, “The best preparation for combat is combat.”

When someone shouted a question about Darfur, Pelosi segued into a discussion about her visit to Sudan last year. But she then pivoted and with a smile asked, “Just getting back to the war now, if I may. Do you mind if I do that?”

At the end of her remarks, she said, “Instead of fighting with us, which is your right to do, let’s work together.”

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[truebrit71]

1. Umm, Madame Speaker, how about instead of enabling the warmongers in the WH you do what you

..and your fellow Cave-O-Crats were elected to do and STOP THE FUCKING WAR!!

M'kay?

[peacebird]

10. How about you DO something to stop the war, hmm Nancy?

[karlrschneider]

2. I'm not too impressed with our Speaker so far.

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[ShortnFiery]

6. Well if this is any example ...

“The best preparation for combat is combat.” :wtf: over?!? :crazy:

What combat? All you have done for Dear leader is get really cross at times so he "chides you" ... then you immediately roll on your backs and beg for tummy rubs. :eyes:

But You're OUR Democratic GUTLESS WONDERS: the 23% Congress ... dammit!

[GeorgeGist]

3. Anytime Nancy wants to work together ...

all she has to do is call for help.

[ProSense]

4. She wasn't booed!

A few members of Code Pink shouted comments during her speech. Pelosi handled it really well. She encouraged them to protest. Hillary was resoundingly booed when she got to the topic of Iraq. Other than Iraq, Hillary was well-received. The crowd loved Pelosi and even tried to silence those the handful of Code Pink hecklers.

[shance]

8. Hecklers? How about the majority of this country opposes this illegal profiteering war?

Except those safely esconsed in the Oak wood back rooms and marbled floors of Congress. They write the checks, bad mouth the president and do their photo ops.

That Ms. Pelosi continues to promote her actions in supporting the president, but talking as though she didn't is the height of either insanity or dishonesty. She is firmly in the know of all that is happening now, and she is as responsible as the Republicans draft dodgers who are eagerly sending our kids off to die.

Ms. Pelosi can talk all she would like.

Men, women and children and animals are being slaughtered, water is being toxified, bombs are being dropped, trauma is being induced every hour on the hour in Iraq while Nancy hops from cocktail reception, to golf outing to luncheon to a meeting here and there.

[ProSense]

14. Was this about the conference?

Was the majority of the country in the room? Again, there were a few hecklers during Pelosi's speech.

[fedupinBushcountry]

25. Funny, isn't it

That the majority of PROGRESSIVES in that audience gave Pelosi a standing ovation to drown out the booing.

[ShortnFiery]

5. Hello? Nancy, your approval ratings in Congress are 23%, get used to a lot of *boos* OR

grow as spine and actually *serve the constituents* you were elected to represent.

Yeah, get used to it because as gutless as you have demonstrated yourselves to be, it's going to just get worse. :evilgrin: And yes, you COWARDS have earned it. :P

[mmonk]

7. A mistake is something one didn't mean to do.

This war was and is deliberate.

[magellan]

12. This is what pisses me off

"Grotesque mistake"? Either Pelosi hasn't educated herself on the DSM and other pieces of evidence that prove BushCo deliberately lied us into Iraq, or she knows better but is playing their game. Neither says anything good about her.

[pork medley]

17. and the democrats are as complicit as the republicans in this crime against humanity

if not more so, since they like to portray themselves as a populist party. theyre as crooked as republicans - morally vacuous, nationalist warmongerers - as this congress has made so abundantly clear

republicans and democrats are two sides of the same coin of bourgeois 'democracy'

this should serve as a wake up call, not only to this message board but to all of us who are chattel of the ruling class

[MisterHowdy]

9. WORK TOGETHER!?!?! Is that a joke?

Us citizenry did their part by voting her and her party in,
now they must do theirs by actually trying to stop the war.

What they have done so far has been extremely weak.
All a citizen can really do is vote, thats a citizens part, thats a citizen working together
with politics to make change.

Politicians must do stuff to make that change!

[defendandprotect]

11. It's a "Bush-ism" which means, "Do it my way!"

[mmonk]

13. They worked with the president on escalation

and the hydrocarbon law. They've been doing some legislating though and thus are waiting for the vetos.

[dweller]

15. hey, i know ! Let's buy her some roses ...

3533 to be exact, and send more everyday as the casualties come in.


they don't have to be vibrant, live ones. Just red, wilted, and with thorns.

“Just getting back to the war now, if I may. Do you mind if I do that?”

yeh, i do.
dp

[KingFlorez]

16. Some people have no sense of logic

No matter how many times the reality of the situation is explained (Congress doesn't have executive authority to end the war), they choose to plug there ears and behave ridiculously.

[Marr]

18. Instead of working with them, how about fighting?

[ellisonz]

19. It takes 60 votes to end debate in the Senate.

Are you suggesting Democrat's use "the nuclear option" in regards to authorizations of force (because the GOP will filibuster)? Because with that, we don't have the votes to pull funding much less end the war.

TO EVERYBODY IN THIS THREAD BASHING PELOSI REMEMBER THAT SHE VOTED AGAINST THIS WAR, HILLARY VOTED FOR IT, DO NOT CONFLATE THE TWO BECAUSE THEY COME FROM RATHER DIFFERENT MATERIAL (and yes I'm using cap-locks.) :crazy:

[Marr]

20. It's amazing how effective the GOP can be with their minority status.

A few years ago, the excuse was "we're the minority so obviously we can't do anything whatsoever". Now the refrain seems to be "We haven't got an enormous majority so obviously we can't do anything whatsoever".

I understand how the system works. I know it takes 60 votes to end debate. But there's a hell of alot of strategy that plays into that, and the Democrats seem determined to lose. The spending bill is one example- the proper response would've been to submit another spending bill with the same provisions on Iraq, and let Bush veto it again. And again. And again, until he either caved, or brought the GOP down with him. But instead, the Dems caved.

Just because you can't force your will a 60 vote majority doesn't mean you're powerless. The GOP is demonstrating that in Congress very well.

[sampsonblk]

21. Damn straight!

Very well said.

[ellisonz]

24. Then why don't you just go and vote Green cus Kucinich ain't winnin' the nomination!

and the Democrats seem determined to lose.

So not only do you think the DNC is born to lose, but that we should get stuck in an entrenched political battle. The truth is that some battles in Washington D.C. cannot be won in Washington D.C., you have to take it to the voters. See the League of Nations. Could it be that there is a better way to fight this fight than by having the same bill veteod several times? Real smart...:eyes:

[Marr]

27. I'll tell you what's "real smart".

Expecting to win by conceding. Stop pushing for a minute and they'll push you backwards.

And this issue was "taken to the voters", in case you missed it. That election last year- remember?

[ellisonz]

28. What has Pelosi conceded?

Please, I'd like an actual quotation rather than just "it's off the table," because obviously it can be put back on the table.

Yes, and the voters did not see fight to give us 60 votes in the Senate much less 67 so that's that. Let the investigation continue, it'll be in the court's before you know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_timeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

[leftchick]

22. good lord, she still doesn't get it?

At this point apparently she never will. :eyes:

[leftchick]

23. "LEAD us OUT of Iraq NOW!"

Rae Abileah, from the CodePink Women for Peace group, center, shouts to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., not pictured, to bring home U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq during Pelosi's address at the 'Take Back America' political conference in Washington, Wednesday, June 20, 2007. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

[EFerrari]

26. Working with you entails complicity in war crimes, Nancy.

I won't do that.

Bring them home.

[deacon]

29. i didn't get my chance to boo - boooooooooooooooooo n/t