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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:12 PM
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BUSH ADMIN Allocating $43 Billion To Create An Illegal Biological Weapons Program
NEW FORT DETRICK "BIODEFENSE" LABORATORY MAY REFLECT A BUSH GERM WARFARE EFFORT
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-02-05 16:52. Media
By Sherwood Ross

Although no foreign power has threatened a bioterror attack against America, since 9/11 the Bush administration has allocated a stunning $43-billion to "defend" against one. Critics are now saying, however, Bush's newest "biodefense" initiative is both offensive and illegal.

The latest development, according to the Associated Press, is that the U.S. Army is replacing its Military Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., "with a new laboratory that would be a component of a biodefense campus operated by several agencies." The Army told AP the laboratory is intended to continue research that is only meant for defense against biological threats.

But University of Illinois international law professor Francis Boyle charged the Fort Detrick work will include "acquiring, growing, modifying, storing, packaging and dispersing classical, emerging and genetically engineered pathogens." Those activities, as well as planned study of the properties of pathogens when weaponized, "are unmistakable hallmarks of an offensive weapons program."

more at:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/18160
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:16 PM
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1. and people still think bush isnt an antichrist.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:41 AM
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17. or like Hitler.
:scared:
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:17 PM
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2. They need to ramp up the place that gave us the Anthrax Attacks
Since the last ones went so well (after all, they got the Patriot Act passed), it's time to get the facilities up to speed for the next home-grown terrorist attack.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:51 PM
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3. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:08 PM
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34. and another...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 03:46 PM
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38. .
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:02 PM
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4. Why does this make me think of that sentence in PNAC about genotypes?
:scared:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:21 PM
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7.  PNAC genocide plans "...advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes..."
"...advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

from PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

http://www.newamericancentury.org.

entire document at http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf


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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:38 AM
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16. That's the one.
Gave me chills then; gives me chills now.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:06 PM
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27. There's a lot of evidence to support that downthread, nashville_brook
when John Pilger first heard Richard Perle expound on "total war" during the Reagan era Pilger thought Perle was insane-yet the "politically useful tools" are very real as is the history and names of people and networks involved in this. It isn't only PNAC, there are many alliances-and that is a real treasonous criminal conspiracy following a plan pragmatically from within HOMELAND(tm).

:hi:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:34 PM
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28. thanks for the pointer...
just a creepy aside... do you remember the "mysterious deaths" of microbiologists after 911? i can't remember the final count, but i think it was around 16 -- give or take. i'm googling... but i seem to remember that some of the scientists were involved in genetic marker research, i.e. developing viruses that could target racial groups via genetic markers -- and likewise, vaccines for such.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:33 PM
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30. Not just microbiologists, but one of the most profound deaths in that context
would be Dr. Donald C. Wiley, who could have become U.S. Surgeon General.

Instead, we wound up with the Army "biodefense" expert and Arizona SWAT guy Richard H. Carmona. This fits a pattern of having RW military replacement of civilian leadership throughout the BFEE and the expansion of militarism in general. A characteristic of fascism and other empires.

So that's what I call HOMELAND(tm) cradle-to-grave control of notus by us (to borrow another one of the tools of these traitors)i.e. framing the context of perception space.

"Control of notus by us..." that's going to make a lot of people wonder what the heck I'm putting in this post-it's an illustration of the way Rumsfeld et al used to speak before some of US were able to make sense out of nonsense.

Bear with me as I seem to go off-topic, but a conceptual framework concerning what seems irrrational is necessary to grasp what these folks have been up to for decades.

I urge everyone to save and refer to this article. It is analogous to a Rosetta Stone when it comes to grasping the symbolic language these traitors and criminals use to describe their behavior; torture, murder, rape, genocide, etc.

They have one PNAC goal that they call full spectrum dominance. This is the dominance of earth so that they can literally remake the world in their image, within a time frame of about a hundred years (with a population reduced to about 1-2% of current level);then they'll clone or engineer whatever they desire-it's so insane sounding at first, but this is what is going on in their P-Space.

"Reframing Perception-Space(P-Space): A Quick Overview of a Unifying Concept"
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc/reframing-p-space.htm

Since the PNAC plan calls for revolutionary use of the assets of the sole military superpower including privatization of government and elimination of nation states selective genocide is small potatoes in the potato salad of remaking the world and then beginning the colonization of other planets.

Yep. I do understand how most people may react when hearing this for the first time-but look at what has happened since this administration was installed. There are quite a lot of supporting viewpoints to mine and I've been posting along those lines since 2001.

A technically advanced evil empire is here-for real--it staged a coup, of sorts. They are open about it-hence the Project for a New American Century, they don't give a damn about notus, which is The United States of America because they are traitors.

They have ambitions of power that go beyond HOMELAND(tm) to HOMEWORLD(tm) etc. That's my take on a lot of this. I might be wrong on some points, but I'm reasonably sure that these are extreme revolutionary pragmatists that are capable of anything and will use all the "politically useful tools" they have available to advance their agenda.

Thanks for reading this post by one of US.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:01 AM
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33. anthrax... Frank Olson (LSD, CIA, "suicide") also did anthrax research
Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were "linked."


US VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY AND SECRETARY OF DEFENCE DONALD RUMSFELD LINKED TO
"MURDER OF CIA SCIENTIST">

by Gordon Thomas

Secret documents have revealed US Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld are "linked to the murder" of a senior CIA scientist. Frank Olson, who was a key member of the CIA's secret brainwashing programme MK-ULTRA, was sent plunging from a New York hotel window after he had threatened to reveal the CIA involvement in "terminal experiments" in post-war Germany.

(snip)

The documents reinforce how Rumsfeld and Cheney have honed their skills over the past thirty years to ensure that today they have so far managed to keep the current scandal of US torture in Iraq - and elsewhere - from ensnaring themselves and President Bush.

Frank Olson's work for the CIA had included making biological weapons. (snip)

To ensure his weapons worked, they were tried out on what the CIA classified as "expendables": suspected double agents, captured spies and others held in detention camps in the American Zone in southern Germany.

This was the 1950s when the Cold War was at its height. But Olson had never witnessed the result of his work. Then in the summer of 1953, he visited a CIA "safe house" near Stuttgart. He saw men dying, often in agony, from the weapons he had made. He was shocked, and protested. By the time he had returned to Fort Detrick in November of that year, his fate had been sealed. CIA director Allan Welsh Dulles decided that Olson was a dangerous whistleblower.

(son) Eric Olson had always maintained "my father was murdered on the highest authority". He has fought a long battle to prove his point. But at every step he was blocked by two of the most powerful men in Washington - Cheney and Rumsfeld.

The documents which have surfaced in Washington all too clearly pinpoint the role the two men played in covering-up the murder of Frank Olson. In a "Flash Secret" memo from Cheney to Rumsfeld, the future Vice President warns if the truth emerged "it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information". Cheney warns in a further memo that Olson's job "is so sensitive that it is highly unlikely we would submit relevant evidence on the issue of his duties".

Cheney and Rumsfeld were given the task of covering up the details of Frank Olson's death. At the time, Rumsfeld was White House Chief of Staff to President Gerald Ford. Dick Cheney was a senior White House assistant to the President.

The 23 pages of documents paint a clear picture of the determination of Cheney and Rumsfeld to keep secret Olson's work and to ensure, as a matter of public policy, it must remain secret that "a drug criminally given him (Olson) cannot as a matter of law be determined he died in the course of his official duties".

(snip)

A California history professor, Kathryn Olmstead discovered the documents in the Gerald Ford library.

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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:03 PM
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39. So when they wage war on us...er, which would be the notus,
aren't these military people commiting treason? They are supposed to be defending us, not redefining us as the notus and waging info-disinfo on us, not to keep us free, but to enslave us. What have they been smoking? These people done sold their souls.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:17 PM
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5. they dont want to nuke all that oil, so, they'll just kill all iranians/iraqiis with biowarfare
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:03 PM
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9. Afghanistan and Iraq have ALREADY been poisoned
with depleted uranium... Thoroughly POISONED.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:28 PM
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6. Don't you just get tired of this shite.
Seriously. Every time you turn around, Bush et al. are fast at some newly-revealed diabolical scheme.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:26 PM
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8. Just the very term "genetically engineered pathogens"
sends chills up my back. I never thought of that, but I guess when they discovered DNA could be modified at will, it was just a matter of time before someone else thought of it. That's truly terrifying.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:07 PM
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10. They dug up corpses to get the 1918 Bug just to find a killer bug
but we handle viruses differently now than 1918

He wants the masses killed and keep the info structure

He's the MaBus
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:20 PM
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14. Do you have proof that they really dug up corpses of 1918 victims?
Sounds too odd to be true.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:56 PM
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29. here ya go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu#Spanish_flu_research


In February 1998, a team led by Jeffery Taubenberger of the US Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) recovered samples of the 1918 influenza from the frozen corpse of a Native Alaskan woman buried for nearly eight decades in permafrost near Brevig Mission, Alaska. Brevig Mission lost approximately 85% of its population to the Spanish flu in November 1918. One of the four recovered samples contained viable genetic material of the virus. This sample provided scientists a first-hand opportunity to study the virus, which was inactivated with guanidinium thiocyanate before transport. This sample and others found in AFIP archives allowed researchers to completely analyze the critical gene structures of the 1918 virus. "We have now identified three cases: the Brevig Mission case and two archival cases that represent the only known sources of genetic material of the 1918 influenza virus", said Taubenberger, chief of AFIP's molecular pathology division and principal investigator on the project.<7>
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:09 PM
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11. Wrong for Saddam. Right for Bush. And the status quo persists....
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:10 PM
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12. "The Stand"
It will be worse than fiction.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:18 PM
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13. Sure spend millions more on more ways to kill people
I am at the point where they should just let the damn bombs fly and see what's left .

I am so sick of all the military and bio war fare that just getting out of bed is really becoming an effort .

All I would like is some good news , something promising and hopeful and enlightening .

This continued horror is enough to drag anyone down . What a country we have here , what a sick country .
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:44 PM
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15. He has made me "sick" all along! K and R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:11 AM
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18. ...Researchers: some "suspects" and institutions for more data on CBW
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 01:15 AM by bobthedrummer
Mark Buller
Jerome Hauer
Tommy Thompson
"Ken Alibek"
DynCorp
Hollis-Eden Pharmaceuticals
UW-Madison
Saint Louis University
Edwin W. Pauley-Coconut Island
Plum Island
UCLA
Project Bio-Shield
Porton Down
Genentech
USDA
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:13 AM
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19. K&R.nt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:43 PM
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44. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:52 AM
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20. kick
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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21. Nixon did this too. The rationale is that to defend against them
we must created them so we can study them and make vaccinations.

Yeah, right.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:18 PM
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22. Project BioShield partners: CACI, Hollis-Eden, Vical, Chimerix, VaxGen
I encountered a problem when trying to research some of these criminal partners like CACI, VaxGen, DYNPORT VACCINE, etc maybe because of the awareness of some of the war crimes, torture, human trafficking, child sexual predation, assassination and other assorted evils connected to some of the employees, directors and owners of these companies-so here is some dated material that you can take to the bank along with a link to the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Bioethics, because of an update on VaxGen.

The fast shuffling of ownership, the creation of "new" companies with "new" names mask many criminals-this is where our peace dividend has gone too, into CBW and so-called "biodefense".

Mark Buller-SLU
http://www.slu.edu/readstory/newsinfo/3046

US develops lethal new viruses (Mark Buller SLU)
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4318

Jerome Hauer promoted to Director OPHP (Hauer and Tommy Thompson promoted the use of Bayer's Cipro within DC immediately after the 9/11 attacks but before any indication of any type of biological attack)
http://www.os.dhhs.gov/news/press/2002pres/20020503a.html

Jerome M. Hauer Hollis-Eden page
http://www.holliseden.com/content/?page_id=310

AVANT Immunotherapeutics Inc partners include DYNPORT VACCINE
http://www.avantimmune.com/partners/partners.html

from 2004: Companies on the fence about biodefense
http://www.the-scientist.com/2004/10/25/56/1/

UPenn Center for Bioethics Ethics of Vaccines page (VaxGen update)
http://www.vaccineethics.org/labels/Business%20of%20Vaccines.html

fair use cited for all links

Fwiw
"Justifying Genocide: The Role of Professionals in Legitimizing Mass Killing"
by Alex Alvarez when addressing a symposium on preventing genocide in Dec. 2001

Mr. Alvarez's comments deserve consideration when it comes to CBW and the historic role of professionals who are not immune to extreme political, racial, religious, nationalistic and other ideologies found in "social elites" that have conducted genocide.
http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?sup=10

Btw, let's not forget Model State Emergency Health Powers Act provisions of BFEE "legislation" when researching CBW and bio"defense".
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:32 PM
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23. Yes
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 02:35 PM by Marie26
I've encountered the same dead ends when trying to track down exactly what these companies are doing. They're continually shifting ownership, names & partnerships in order to obscure the real movers & shakers here. Those same names also keep popping up when you look into the anthrax attacks. Ultimately, all these companies are the same basic thing - corporate fronts for illegal Bushco activities. We are fast developing lethal chemical & biological weapons programs.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:47 PM
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26. Yep. It's domestic black operations ridiculed in "the real world" as crazy conspiracy theory
as you and I and many others have discovered during the course of our research not only into CBW/anthrax but many things BFEE.


Btw Marie26 downthread is a link to an often overlooked GAO Statement about the anthrax attacks that you might be interested in.

:hi:
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:13 PM
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41. I once did some SCUBA diving in Hawaii with a group of strangers
I was visiting on business and decided at the last moment to jump on a late afternoon dive with a commercial company. We had a bit of a drive out to the put-in location and I struck up a conversation with a guy sitting behind me on the bus. He ran a large construction business that specialized in underground construction. He had just finished a large project for a pharmaceutical in California and was on vacation. At which point I asked him, why the heck would a pharmaceutical want with an underground building? He said simple, they didn't want anyone to know that there was a lab there. I started to ask him how many projects he's done, how busy he is, etc, etc, etc. He said that the DoD has him booked solid for the next 5 years or so. I asked him why the gov't would want labs underground and he responded by saying for the same reason that pharmaceuticals, they don't want anyone to know there's a lab there. So when I hear somebody say conspiracy theory, I always think of the guy building an underground lab right about now.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:54 PM
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43. That reminds me of a lot of articles by William M. Arkin and others
kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:32 PM
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24. What a coincidence theory the anthrax attacks became for the BFEE.
The 9/11 Commission appendix included a statement about the anthrax attacks from the General Accounting Office that wasn't supposed to be released to we, the people. It was supposed to be destroyed after being viewed by whoever viewed it in the course of preparing the Commission's "product" because the GAO felt that publication could be detrimental to "the government".

This statement is unredacted and is available. No arrests have been made in that case.

GAO Statement:
Diffuse Security Threats: Information on U.S. Domestic Anthrax Attacks
http://www.thememoryhole.org/crime/gao-anthrax/

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:33 PM
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45. Hadron "Ken Alibek", UNL Dr. Michael Meagher-DynPort there's 2 of a kind.
Billions and billions of dollars for "bio-defense" paid out to people and criminal companies that took the formerally erradicated smallpox and brought it back as a vaccine evading weapon, tested the plague and strengthened it to resist treatment, developed agents that only kill/infect certain race/ethnic genotypes and, not by coincidence, a lot of people all over the world involved in various aspects of micro biology have died mysteriously including Dr. David Kelly.

KICK
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:37 PM
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25. Kick n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:08 PM
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31. and another...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:13 PM
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32. Wait Until They Test It Out On The American Public.
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 08:15 PM by Megahurtz
Woohoo. Or that shit will leak out onto us somehow. Either way. :hurts:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:09 PM
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35. SHIT, I hope the Divine Strake test has nothing to do with this!!
:scared:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:41 PM
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36. k
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:14 PM
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37. kick for accountability
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:05 PM
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40.  I need to let out a primal scream
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !

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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:22 PM
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42. No money for health care, but money to weaponize space, make
nuclear weapons more usable, and $43B to study weaponized pathogens. They can't cure the common cold, but they can weaponize it. Folks, we are living through the greatest con in human history. When mealy-mouthed media bothers to look at the colossal debt being created, they always neglect to mention that it represents checks that were written to somebody, and it looks like the BFEE to me.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:05 AM
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46. And to compare, NASA gets $6 billion
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:08 AM
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47. I don't wonder anymore how "good germans" were suckered into following Hitler -
I see it every day in this country when people who should know better don't stand up to Bush. What they're doing here makes me want to scream.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:29 AM
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48. Yep. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:43 PM
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49. kick
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50. kick
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