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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:33 PM
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The day after the gold was found Giuliani stop looking for victims remains?
Is that what I heard the firefighter say on Hardball?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:35 PM
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1. You did hear that and I was stunned. God, what a horrible person..eom
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:36 PM
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2. What gold?
:shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:42 PM
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6. This gold
http://www.rediff.com/money/2001/nov/17wtc.htm

A fortune in gold trapped for seven weeks in the ruins of the World Trade Center officially returned to the global bullion trade Friday, but dealers had already closed the book on the tale of tragedy and buried treasure.

"You could in theory say that if things had gone much worse since September 11 and there had been rampant demand or something like that, that it might have been a story that affected the price. But at this point, I don't think it really was," said a metals specialist....The $230 million in precious metals has been moved from the basement vaults of ScotiaMocatta Depository at 4 WTC, where it was stored on behalf of the New York Mercantile Exchange when the September 11 attacks brought down the twin towers. All warehouse staff got out safely.

In a joint statement Friday, NYBOT and ScotiaMocatta, the metals trading division of Canada's Bank of Nova Scotia, said the metals had been relocated and were again available to guaranty delivery of futures contracts exchange traded at the COMEX metals division of the NYMEX.

"All of the silver, gold, platinum, and palladium stored in its vaults at 4 World Trade Center have been successfully relocated by an Exchange-approved carrier..... Spurred by authorities who wanted to demolish the building, by the potential for crime, and by whatever has always driven men to hunt for gold, emergency crews dug through the rubble and got a first glimpse of the gleaming booty on Oct 30.

Guarded by a small army of heavily armed federal agents, city policemen and firefighters began the massive task of moving about 12 tonnes of gold and 30 million ounces of silver. The hoard was estimated to be worth at least $230 million. ........


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:43 PM
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9. Holy smokes! Thanks. nt
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:30 AM
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39. I remember seeing that line of trucks leaving Ground Zero.
And I knew at that point that they would stop searching for remains at that point. The fortune was saved, so screw those left behind.

Bastards. That's why the search was so frantic - they wanted the gold (and silver) out of there. And so many people believed that they were searching for fallen Americans.

- as
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:32 AM
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40. Hence the AIR IS GOOD!!
November 1, oh maybe not
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:38 PM
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46. yes...and now he should be elected president...because he's SUCH a good man. nt
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 05:40 PM by NotGivingUp
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:56 PM
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49. i remember that gold now, how did i block that out for so long?
there is so much garbage from this crew and it keeps flying atcha that you just get numb
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:43 PM
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8. Major precious metals stored beneath the WTC
Commercial bank money. Over $200 million, I think.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:43 PM
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10. There were bars of gold under one of the towers -- sorry, I forget
which one. This happened and it was disgusting.

The FD revolted when they were pulled off of trying to find their buddies' remains and that asshole sent the NYPD to disperse them.

It was horrendous.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:37 PM
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3. ''Money trumps peace.'' -- George Walker Bush
They are the lowest rung.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:05 PM
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14. $230 million in gold and silver bars in vaults under the towers
Once that was uncovered, search for remains was called off. Firemen then marched on Rudy at city hall.

More info here:
Giuliani’s ‘swift boaters’
Can union’s attack video sink the GOP candidate’s presidential plan?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19707130/

And here: IAFF (Firemens Union)

"Rudy..Urban Legend"

"Rudy has used the horrible events of September 11 to create a persona that is an elaborate fabrication," says IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger. "He is nothing more than a shameless self-promoter."

http://www.rudy-urbanlegend.com/
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:07 PM
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15. Thank you girl_interrupted
:hi:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:06 AM
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52. They are the rotting flesh hanging on the lowest rung!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:38 PM
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4. I remember when it happened--and discussing it on DU.
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 07:47 PM by rocknation
He called off the search for bodies once the gold and silver were recovered from the site. We need to recover the posts from those days--talk about a miniseries.

:headbang:
rocknation
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:42 PM
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5. I like your caption ... Either Clark/Obama or Obama/Clark... either....
way it works for me....

ww
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:38 AM
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34. I do, too
Not just at DU, but it was discussed on Bartcop Forum and others. No one was paying much attention at the time, but the firefighters were up in arms about it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:43 PM
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7. yes!! exactly..and then body parts were paved over by roads near ground zero
and body parts were picked up and used in pot holes in NY and NJ!!

rudy is a filthy pig..doesn't anyone remember seeing on tv rudy marching down to ground zero with a huge force of the police to remove the firefighters who were refusing to stop searching for body parts???????????

the firefighters were pissed..and still are pissed..you your media didn't want you to know that..they had to make this guy inti a fictional hero!! for the neo nazi's!

rudy is the scum of the earth!!

fly
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:51 PM
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18. And remains went to...are you ready? It's from the Dutch...Fresh Kill, NY.
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 08:51 PM by WinkyDink
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:14 PM
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21. FRESH KILLS IS ON STATEN ISLAND..AND THE REMAINS HAVE MOSTLY BEEN COVERED OVER NOW
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 09:15 PM by flyarm
IT IS HARDLY A GOOD PLACE FOR A MEMORIAL PLACE FOR THE FAMILIES!..i know the place well.

FLY
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:39 AM
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35. Makes me sick
I read about this in the book Widow's Walk, one of the saddest books I've ever read.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:15 PM
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41. *fresh* certainly doesn't apply to that dump
:puke:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:47 PM
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47. Yes, I remember seeing coverage of firefighters slugging
police. I wonder how the relationship with the two groups is doing after that?
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:48 PM
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11. So now I see why Rudy's net worth
went from what about a million dollars pre 9/11 to 70 million post.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:33 PM
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25. After 9-11, Rudy owned a defense investment firm. ...He recently sold it. .n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:56 PM
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12. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy..... hang your large head in total shame.... people
act as if Rudy were to fart on 911 that maybe 30,000 people would have perished, if he coughed perhaps it might rain, if Rudy ate pizza there would be an earthquake, if he did anything at all, there would be some grand cataclysmic result.... truth is, it doesn't matter what he does, the "facts on the ground" will not change much... and certainly what he didn't do to help the FDNY be better prepared for such a horrid event had more impact than all the imagined things he did post 911 to help the victims and or their families.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:57 PM
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13. Evidently he sold out for considerably more
than 30 pieces of silver.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:32 PM
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16. seemslikeadream.. you're welcome!
Please spread the word on what a creep Rudy really is! Take care!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:40 PM
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17. Yes, I remember that from the news coverage at the time.
If I recall, the firefighters were called off shortly after THE GOLD had been recovered.

It was quite a revelation to me when putting the "dots" of the timeline together. Of course the CORPORATE MEDIA, at the time, never connected those dots for the public.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:59 PM
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19. Corp Media loves Heros.
They fashioned Rudy G. into one with his PR campaign as a welcome addition. Rudy G. is a phony.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:08 PM
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20. what a disgusting pig
-- hey repubic lurkers: defend that pathetic excuse of a human being--I fucking dare you! gee, what a great president that ... that THING would make!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:16 PM
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22. Suggested new nickname: 'RUDY GOLDFINGER' !
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:30 PM
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24. I really, really like that! Please email the Firefighter's Association and
suggest it as part of their gig! I love it!
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:43 PM
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27. Remember the 1967 'James Bond' move themesong? 'His heart is cold ...
He loves only gold ... Only gold...'

Those words could have been written especially for Giuliani.

I wish people would follow Rudy around blaring the Goldfinger theme song -- sung by Shirley Bassey -- whereever he goes.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:19 PM
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23. My father in law sent us an email about this Navy ship built from steel
salvaged from the WTC collapse.

I wrote back and said all that steel is evidence in an investigation that was never allowed to happen.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:38 PM
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26. Unreal
I have never heard this before.
Just one more reason to be totally pissed fucking off at those assholes.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:21 PM
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28. K&R. (nt)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:22 PM
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29. And another
:kick:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:25 PM
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30. I could spit nails
:grr: :grr: :grr:

Bless the firefighters.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:29 PM
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31. K & R
:kick:
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:36 AM
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32. I think if the whole 911 story ever came out.....
we could say we saw the Devil and his minions right here on EARTH!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:38 AM
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33. YES you heard correctly.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:49 AM
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36. K&R! Thank you....Giuliani is our problem, not our solution!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:53 AM
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37. Goulliani's proper send off
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:18 AM
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38. kick
:kick:
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:43 PM
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42. What was Tweety's problem??? He seemed incapable of grasping the connection
between finding the gold and calling off the search for remains. The firefighter also said that they are like the military - they never leave their brothers behind. It was a kick in the gut for the search to be called off, especially right after the gold was found. Absolutely disgusting! Rudy, you are one sickening slime ball.
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:09 PM
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44. Nice to have the repugs Swiftboated for a change.
And for it to be actually legit.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:05 PM
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43. Ghoul-iani? the Nick 'd him. nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:35 PM
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45. kicking, speechless.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:48 PM
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48. Yes. n/t
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:57 PM
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50. NYers will never EVER forget it
or forgive it! I don't know how much of it got national attention but we were OUTRAGED in NY! That disgust is still alive and well in me, and always will be. I hope to jeebus he's the nominee. His 'hero of 9/11' personna is the main focus of his campaign and when that fantasy comes crumbling down to dust it'll be too good for Fresh Kills!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:24 PM
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51. Kick! nt
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