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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:36 PM
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Why there REALLY wasn't an impeachment question from the asker...ME!

Clearly the person who wrote the thread below this did NOT watch my video or they didn't understand my question. It was about the necessity of impeachment to PREVENT future of executive powers. And, that my friend, has EVERYTHING to do with the future of the Presidency.

CNN ignored the NUMBER one requested video leading the second place video in the dust by over a thousand votes -

It didn't ask because it was nothing but the traditional spectacle with a new twist.

And, to those who say impeachment is a DU fantasy, you might as well say saving this country is a DU fantasy Becaues,if holding a man accountable for the mass murder of over a half million people in a country that posed us no threat, & all the rest of his treasonous atrocities won't be held to account, then you are in a fantasy world to think anything else will change.

I am contacting every media outlet tomorrow & starting a impeachment youtube campaign with this snub of a video to start a REAL DEBATE. The CNN/Youtube thing was a farce, but the avenue is still available to those of us serious about fighting back.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:38 PM
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1. I'll give this a recommend.
Use any avenue to push.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:38 PM
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2. So much for DU's respect for democracy.
I voted for the impeachment question. I haven't seen the debate yet. But it's pretty disgusting if they polled people interested in the debates and then did not respect the wishes of the people they polled. What jerks.

GOOD LUCK for your impeachment campaign. I'm with you 100%.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:35 AM
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25. They've been doing that since 2000... we vote. we don't get what we voted for...
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:19 AM
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36. Thank you very much

:)
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:39 PM
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3. Thank you for asking that question..
it's a shame & a sham that it did not get it's due
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:39 PM
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4. Think about it..........
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 08:48 PM by liberalnurse
The next President of the United States is a future job assignment for the Candidates...the action is not in the loop of the next President.....The Impeachment issue is a current event issue. It is not appropriate for any Presidential Candidate to ever have to answer that question. Now, as a Senator or House member role, Yes, ask the question.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:52 PM
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9. So asking the candidates if they will renounce the unconstitutional powers bush has usurped isn't
appropriate? Asking them if they should be impeached if they did what bush did isn't appropriate?

I don't want an imperial president, Dem or Repo. I think asking the question is critical.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:37 AM
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26. That's what I want to know...
"Do you promise to restore the constitution and the powers of Congress when you are elected president? Do you promise to renounce the powers stolen by the previous executive branch? Do you promise to never use signing statements?"

Those are the things I want to know.

Of the current candidates, I think Kucinich would willingly give up power. I think Clinton wouldn't. I'm not sure about the others.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:21 PM
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41. Her need to look powerful on Iran would indicate that
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 02:22 PM by truedelphi
Her Presidency will be imperial as well.

The need to expand NAFTA (a drive her husband helped foster) will blossom into a full fledged Amero Union.

we, along with Canada to the north and Mexico to the south, will have one currency, one Constitution, (The type that does not offer inalienable rights, but rights granted by the Government) and another fifty years of war.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:56 AM
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27. The impeachment question is important to the whole world.

I don't understand why it is not important in deciding who to vote for.

Why don't you care to know anything about who you are going to vote for?


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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:38 PM
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43. Because any of the candidates could answer
"If I am elected President, yes, I promise to remove George W. Bush from office."

BTW Edwards answered the question on his own video, but probably not with the answer most people here wanna hear.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:48 PM
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50. I have met with and attended Rally's for the top 3
Candidates and Dennis Kucinich several times. I have made an informed decision. If I was in support of Impeachment, I would not hesitate to ask the Congressional Democratic Candidates their stance on the issue if I was addressing them in their current Congressional role. I did not nor will I ever address Impeachment to a Presidential Candidate.

In the replies to my posting, I see there has been add-on information tagging along the Impeachment question, ie the *bush Constitutional abuses etc...Much of those concerns would fall into another or several additional questions which would appear to be appropriate for a Presidential Candidate.

There, see, I pay attention. O8)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:40 PM
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5. I didn't watch the debates because I knew this morning
they were going to avoid your (our) question.

Thank you for your work, debbie. YOU did a great job. The MEDIA did their usual pimping.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:45 PM
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6. Okay, you don't go to Office Depot to buy
school clothes or cat food and you don't ask Presidential Candidates about Impeachment of the Office they are applying to fill. The question does not belong in the Presidential Category. Ask the Candidates as an acting Senator or House Rep....that is the right Domain.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:49 PM
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8. I disagree 100%
First of all, the candidates should be asked if they will violate the constitutional rights of American citizens and the human rights of non-citizens as Bush as done. Secnd, they should be asked if they support impeachment and if so what will they do to convince Congress of it and if not, what actions will they endorse to deal with all they myriad illegalities Bush, Cheney and their suborddinates have committed. These are especially important to ask of sitting legisltators.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:54 PM
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11. Your passion is great.....
but direct it to the Congress which actually has the legitimate power and control to act on Impeachment. The next President has zero input thus the question is illogical for a Presidential Debate. Ask them, the Candidates as an acting member of Congress.....
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:17 PM
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19. I SAID to ask the sitting legislators
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 10:06 PM by AndreaCG
Meaning current Congress members. I think the question is relevant for the rest of them, too. Let them get on Congress's ass for their inaction if they think that's appropriate. What better forum to do this in than a nationwide debate when they can respond to each other, at least theoretically (no time in reality to do so thoroughly).

The Democratic nominee will not be running against just the Republican candidate but the record of the current administration. Impeachment is wholly relevant to the voters. It's a matter of character and restoring the rights ennumerated in the Constitution, and common law for the past 1000 years, to the American public and citizens of the world.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:29 AM
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38. Congress won't do it - it has to come from us

The country needs leaders on this issue.

I will do what I can. I just hope I can have some impact.

Thanks
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:59 PM
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16. Impeachment is a viable question to potential Presidents...
If impeachment of this President occurred, it could change each candidates campaigns...

Are the candidates views on the possible impeachment of GW Bush as relevant as the knowledge of finding out whether their kids attended private or public schools? gimme a break here...there were some stupid, GOP leading questions asked tonight.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:18 PM
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20. I see your point, sure. But this debate was billed as one where the people
wrote the questions. The producers broke that promise.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:55 PM
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47. I figured the vote would be Rigged with Hand Picked Cooper (GOP) Questions...
and since I didn't see a link in your OP I don't know what you are talking about...but thanks for saying it.
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:19 PM
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21. why vote on the videos then?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:49 PM
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7. CNN is a corporation that answers to its shareholders, not the viewers
I love your idea about starting an independent YouTube impeachment campaign. I think we're all learning that if you want change you can NOT count on the media, you have to make the change yourself. After watching your videos it's obvious you have more than enough talent to pull it off.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:53 PM
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10. CNN Has Their Orders. Impeachment is a Forbidden Topic
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:56 PM
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12. It's not an appropriate question for a Presidential Candidate.
Sorry but you need to file your complaint with the correct recipient....which is Congress.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:57 PM
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13. Your question was the best
And beyond the votes it got on You Tube there is the entire net buzzing about impeachment. I'm against starting impeachment now but I thought the candidates should have been asked about it.

I noticed lots of Freeper questions made the cut. Next time, the net should do its own thing and leave the major media out of it.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:16 PM
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18. "leave the major media out of it." - yes!
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:57 PM
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14. An impeachment youtube campaign is a great idea n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:58 PM
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15. Didn't CNN (Cooper) make some kind of snide
comment before the "debate" began about not asking questions just because a lot of people asked, or because organized groups tried to rig the process? I'm paragphrasing, but I heard something along those lines and I haven't heard it mentioned on DU. So that's how they're going to cover themselves. It's obvious they just didn't want to ask it.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:17 AM
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35. He was arrogant beyond all belief

Little punk
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:14 PM
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17. thank you - keep up the good work!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:23 PM
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22. Great questions were asked, but yours should have been. nt
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:46 PM
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23. K and R
Get that YouTube Impeachment Campaign going! Keep us posted and we will DU what DU best to support this. :patriot:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:47 PM
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24. That was the ONLY question I wanted to hear. The fix was in--
they just try to see how far "rebranding" it as a debate where the questions are asked by real people goes. Just like with IRAQ and everything else--it's a question of marketing, not substance to the corporate media.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:00 AM
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28. So disappointing that they culled the most anticipated question.
But you definitely have my approval.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:08 AM
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29. John Edwards answered an impeachment question on his "post-debate" clip on YT.
You're not "LonelyGirl" by any chance, are you?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:02 AM
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30. Yes and Rosa DeLauro feels the same way unfortunately.
She thinks there is more important things to do but uphold her Oath of office.

(Protecting the Constitution)

It's shameful.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:19 AM
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33. I am - and he only answered HALF the question

The first part was about impeaching Bush, but the second part (which he didn't he acknowledge) was about the necessity of impeachment to stop the future abuse of future Presidential Powers....

Sen Dodd posted a video response.

CNN ignored it entirely.

But, I will not let it be ignored. It is time to talk about all the things the MSM walks on egg shells to ignore.

Enough is enough.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:58 PM
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48. Yes...the M$M is the BIG Corruptor...but what about Dem Candidates who don't answer?
:-( And, that they AVOID ...being asked!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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31. I am starting to write my response to CNN/Dodd/& Edwards

And, I am going balls out.

I have had it. I have known this is what I should do for a long time. But, I have to admit, I have been scared and a little reluctant to put my life on that trejectory.

Here goes nothing....

Thanks for all the support - without some of you here on DU, I wouldn't have the courage to move forward.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:16 AM
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32. Excellent! Good work!
:applause:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:30 AM
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34. It lit a fire under me - so it worked out
:toast:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:21 AM
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37. the voting on submitted questions was a farce
CNN had a story about the youtube debate and how they were screening the questions

they were quite proud of it

and now I humbly submit that this particular debate be refered to as YOU-BOOB!!!
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Exiled in America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:32 AM
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39. Half a million people?
Can I get some source information on that number? It would help me out in my own work.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:07 PM
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40. Yes!! The BIG CORPO FIX was in!
CNN also dodged another IMPORTANT and popular question:


Do you support a "FOR PROFIT HealthCare System"?


Spread the word.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.




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kevin4589 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:29 PM
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42. This is how media controls what people get to hear and learn
This one of central ways by which the right wing corporate media what public hears and learns. It controls what questions and stories it is going to cover. The media stays away from the public interest question or something what may bring people together against the corporate agenda.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:34 PM
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44. Recommended. This issue's got legs. It's got the makings of a BIG scandal.
Look at how the scandal over fixed contests just last week brought the BBC to its knees. Viewers HATE it when this kind of tampering takes place.

It reflects very poorly on the YouTube brand as well. I thought we could expect more honesty from those folks at YouTube.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:45 PM
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45. Your question probably would have gotten lots of applause
Can't have America hear that! (Much less the rest of the world):sarcasm:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:50 PM
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46. I'm Glad They Didn't Ask An Impeachment Question. It Is Non Germane And Frankly Would've Been Silly
I would've actually faulted CNN for their judgment if they had in fact asked it.

Impeachment technically has nothing to do with who should be the next president, especially since a president does not make any decisions as they relate to impeachment.

So I'm glad they didn't ask it. I much preferred questions that actually mattered.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:08 PM
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49. A question on Presidential accountability does not matter in a Presidential debate?
Their opinion on whether or not Bush should be impeached would tell us a lot on where they stand on Presidential powers, and would let us know the standards they think Presidents should be held to. It is an extremely relevant question, and for them to not ask it is inexcusable.
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