Question about Cindy Sheehan's run against Nancy Pelosi.

[madinmaryland]

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In reading her announcement, she indicates she will be running against Nancy Pelosi for her seat in Congress. Has she decided to run a Democratic Primary against Speaker Pelosi, or is she running as an independent as she indicated earlier this month?

If she runs as an independent, the **** is going to hit the fan here.

On edit: I am not asking whether she has a realistic chance.

[dkofos]

1. I hope she runs as a Dem.

[zonmoy]

2. will she be allowed to do that though.

[madinmaryland]

7. Why not? All she has to do is get on the ballot.

Should be nothing preventing her from forcing a primary. That is, if she runs as a Democrat.

[zonmoy]

17. doesn't the party have any say as to whether they allow someone

to run under the parties banner though in a primary.

what makes you think that the party leadership will allow her to run as a democrat.

[speakclearly]

51. She said she would run as an independent,..........

Which is why she is banned at DU and DailyKos. She is like Lieberman in that she is no longer a Democrat, but a party unto herself. That makes her personna non grata her and why thread that support her candidacy are not welsome (but you can support her actions to impeach Bush or end the war in Iraq). If she runs as a Democrat, she is unlikely to win the primary race that would let her replace Pelosi (Pelosi has a strong Democratic base in her district). She might be able to get poltical donations to run the race, but, in the end, its the voters who get to decide. It is more likely to split the Party which may give the Republican opposition just enough of an opening to replace her.

[ComerPerro]

3. it won't matter. The people in that district aren't stupid enough to give up a House Speaker

for an inexperienced, politically naive and extremely polarizing figure.

[TwilightZone]

4. It's already hitting the fan.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1420474

...and many others.

[madinmaryland]

10. I know! And that is only one of many threads.

I'm not looking forward to this. It's going to get ugly.

:scared:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. I think it's pretty much irrelevant.

It's symbolic. Sheehan's campaign doesn't have a chance.

The whole point is to show Pelosi's not doing her job.

[azurnoir]

6. Get your rainslicker and hip waders

it already has.

[bluestateguy]

8. Pelosi should ignore her

and ignore whatever boob the Republicans nominate.

She's busy being Speaker of the House.

And Sheehan doesn't even live in the district.

[madinmaryland]

12. I think that's what Pelosi is doing. There is no need

for her to give Sheehan any more exposure. Especially since Cindy has not even formally filed her candidacy.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. She doesn't have to live in the district

In California, it isn't necessary.

[saracat]

9. Independent.Cindy isn't a Democrat and has disparaged the Democratic Party repeatedly.

[madinmaryland]

11. That's what she said a month ago.

Her announcement today, didn't say what she was running as, just who she was running against.

:shrug:

[saracat]

15. She was nasty about the Democratic Party in her announcement as well.

[zonmoy]

19. So am I. I consider the democratic party to be nearly

rotten to the core, almost as bad as the republicans. I do think that if the Dem's that haven't been corrupted stand up to the leadership and drive them out the party might be saved though. It is possible that she no longer believes that.

[saracat]

20. Baloney.

[zonmoy]

22. are you saying that the democratic party isn't salvageable or that

it isn't corrupted by corporate money or any other corrupting influences.

[saracat]

27. I am proud of the Democratic Party. And it is NOT corrupted.That is an RW talking point.

Where is Cindy's money coming from? And BTW, did she ever settle that problem of the missing money?

[zonmoy]

29. simple way to prove it by taking a look at who finances the campaigns

of both parties. find out who funds the elections and you can see who is corrupting both parties. Did I scare everybody away with this idea, or does everybody know what they will find and not want to find.

[saracat]

34. Bwaaahh! Everyone gets money freom someone.Including Cindy

who can't seem to account for it! This is why we need public financing of elections!

[zonmoy]

36. on that we agree. but the money that they get from PACs

and other corporate sources makes them beholden to those sources so they either will not fight against what the contributers want or they will fight for the contributers rather than the people. that is the corruption I see.

[Marrah_G]

41. Talk about a broad brush

If the Dems are rotten to the core and just about as bad as the Republicans, why bother to be on a site that supports Democratic candidates?

[zonmoy]

43. Kucinich and a smattering of others have managed to somewhat

resist the rot so far. those are the ones I still support.

[EVDebs]

13. On occasion, it's necessary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1411086&mesg_id=1415195

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. That needs to be a thread starter

[EVDebs]

18. NO ! Let them find out the hard way, like Bosco and Solarz did back then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Solarz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Bosco

[saracat]

23. And yet, she wants Democratic support and votes! Why should

anyone support someone who calls them the "party of slavery' and expresses contempt for them? Pelosi will roll over her like a truck.Maybe this is what is necessary to get Cindy to go home.Her days of being productive are over.She has morphed from an activist to a celebrity famous for nothing.

[EVDebs]

26. All Pelosi's gotta do is put the impeachment measure 'on the table'

Cindy would go home in a NY minute. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Dem's not gonna do it, would'nt be prudent.

Don't blame Cindy for Nancy's bad judgement, ok ?

[saracat]

30. Ooooh.Bow to Cindy.Not..They don't want to align themselves with an idiot!

If Cindy were out of the picture Impeachment could be looked at with more respect but as long as it is coming from one who projects herself as a loon , who attacks some of the greatest leaders of our party, it will not have traction.

[bluestateguy]

52. If Cindy wins, then she can pursue impeachment!

She'd be sworn in on January 3, 2009, giving her 17 days to pursue impeachment.

Of course, she'd be a freshman congresswoman, with no power, and no party--and thus no committee assignments. But hey, she never let reality get in her way before.

[LSK]

37. as has half of DU

[ShaneGR]

21. Independent, and she would have zero hope of winning in that district...

None. Slight chance she could siphon enough votes off to make it close with whoever the sacrificial Republican is that runs against her. Very slight.

[EVDebs]

28. Same as EV Debs from prison.. However, Debs' agenda got passed anyway. Go figure

[knight_of_the_star]

47. Doubt that she would even have that effect

Last election Pelosi got 80% of the vote. She won't even notice Sheehan really.

[LynneSin]

24. How would the shit hit the fans if she runs as an indpendent

We're the democratic underground - we do not endorse 3rd party candidates.

If Ms. Sheehan wants to make a change she should go head-to-head with Nancy Pelosi as a democrat. Third party is a way to 'claim victory' for getting 10% of the vote.

[saracat]

31. She IS running as an independent.That is what she said!

[madinmaryland]

33. Only because there are a lot of people who have been

very supportive of Cindy's activities over the last couple of years. It would make it very difficult here on DU since Cindy supports a couple of DU's signature interests:
1.) Impeachment of Bush/Cheney.
2.) End of the Iraq War.

Just saying it would create a lot of deep divisions here. It would make the Nader issue look like peanuts.

[saracat]

35. And Cindy will revel in the rift.She has already disparaged DU publicly

and she has quit KOS because they questioned her!

[LynneSin]

39. They perhaps she should start an Independant Underground

:shrug:

[madinmaryland]

42. I don't know if she would want to do that. Isn't that Lieberman's Site?

:shrug:

[LynneSin]

46. Well, I don't know who owns the site

But I do know that this site was founded by democrats for democrats. I have no problem with supporting Cindy Sheehan but if she's not running as a democrat then this isn't the site for supporting her.

[madinmaryland]

49. I don't know if it is even a site.

I was just trying to point out that given the universal support Cindy has had here over the last couple of years, it would be a very trying time here if she did try and go it alone as an independent.

[Yukari Yakumo]

45. Mainly due to her sheeple around here

Currently no one can support Cindy's campaign in any from.

However, just what does "in any form" mean? This could end up meaning that all mentioning of Cindy could be prohibited since invoking her name could be interpreted as equal to advertising for her campaign.

We need Skinner and a few mods to weigh in on this issue.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. Either way, Ms. Pelosi is in little danger of losing her seat

She will also be the Speaker of the House in the 111th Congress, unless she's president before then.

However, if Ms. Sheehan is successful in getting the Speaker to alter her stubborn, wrongheaded opposition to impeachment, then all the more power to her.

[Bitwit1234]

32. She'll get publicity but nothing else.

This is still America she can run if she wants to. Republicans haven't censured us from that yet.

[LSK]

38. I have not heard that MAJOR detail disclosed yet

[madinmaryland]

40. Here you go...

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=896

[LSK]

44. this?

"I am committed to challenging a two party system that has kept us in a state of constant warfare for the last 60 years and has become more and more beholden to special interests and has forgotten the faces of the people whom it represents."

[bluedog]

48. announcing in Philly Today!!

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/2007/07/41280.shtml

***************announcing in Philly for a run In CA??

INTERVIEWS:
Six hours after Ms Sheehan plans to announce her campaign for the 8th District California House Seat, v. Nancy Pelosi, in Washington , DC , Cindy will be available for In Depth interviews, here in Philly. She will explain the Constitutional Duty to replace Speaker Pelosi.
Speaker Pelosi's refusal to put IMPEACHMENT on the table is in direct contradiction of her highly progressive 8th Districts’ Pro-Peace wishes.
Ms Sheehan has received hundreds of offers from politically savvy operatives, offering free, dedicated, and determined volunteers for her campaign, v. Pelosi.

These interviews can have Independence Hall, Tombstone Display, Liberty Bell, etc., backdrops.

Live Interviews for the 5 to 7 pm news cycle, and all the evening Talking Head Cable shows can be scheduled through:

[madinmaryland]

50. Appartently the storm is starting...

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