This is a complete waste of time. I'm going to call Diane Feinstein's office.

[EFerrari]

And I'm going to object to the MoveOn censure.

The only reason I'm going to do it is, if I don't, I'm on the slide, too. If I don't call, then I can't possibly criticize all the Senators who made a calculation today and chose the easy way out.

:shrug:

We're in deep doodoo, folks, when our own party votes to censure one of our most effective recruiters. And meanwhile, BushCo is fixing to bomb Iran.

Please join me in this useless exercise if your damn Senator voted for this red herring.

[hobbit709]

1. I'm stuck with two of the most useless

oxygen-stealing wastes of skin around.

[babylonsister]

3. Me, too, and they're the same skins you're stuck with. nt

[EFerrari]

4. I'll call your useless oxygen-stealing wastes of skin

and raise you a war profiteer.

:grr:

[AndyA]

10. I'm pretty sure mine are worse. Inhofe and Coburn.

Need I say more?

And no, I'm not proud of this fact, just thoroughly disgusted. But you might find comfort in knowing someone else has it worse. :shrug:

[hobbit709]

11. Yeah, but yours are certified loons

Ours still act semi-respectable on the surface.

[AndyA]

15. Really, you're being too kind.

I honestly can't find words that adequately describe them.

[EFerrari]

12. Okay, Inhofe is a major jerk.

I think you win, Andy. :(

[Ezlivin]

34. Cronyn and Hutchinson? No way! They're GOD's CHOICE

Well, at least they think they are...

[mdmc]

2. I'll call rat worm Hillary and Chucky

:patriot:

[EFerrari]

6. DiFi's phone was busy.

:evilgrin:

So, I sent an email and asked for a hard copy response. :hi:

[Control-Z]

41. Good luck

DiFi doesn't give responses, in my experience.

[EFerrari]

46. Her office sends a generic letter. I guess that's what we're worth

nowadays.

[goodgd_yall]

32. To thank them for voting NAY, right? n/t

[Virginia Dare]

33. Hillary voted no, not sure about Chuck...n/t

[foo_bar]

48. Schumer too

Moveon was conceived to move things along with the faux-impeachment, so Clinton isn't going to stab them in the back yet (Schumer also played defense*). Leahy is the only shocker, besides Cantwell skipping town on her microserf roots. Feinstein seems as responsive to disapproval as Lieberman, meaning complaints probably stiffen her resolve, but Boxer might have a clue WTF happened.

YEAs ---72
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)

NAYs ---25
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 3
Biden (D-DE)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00344#position

* BEER: Yes, I agree. People seem to be asking him to come and confess things which he didn't do and does not think he did. I wouldn't call that contrition; I would call that subservience.
SCHUMER: Do you have any comment on this, Mr. Crai<g?>
<C>RAIG: I agree with you, M r. Schumer.

(LAUGHTER)

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/08/transcripts/schumer.html

[yardwork]

5. I believe I'll save my breath and not call Dole or Burr

I've decided that studied contempt is the best way to deal with my senators.

[EFerrari]

7. At least then it will be a two way street?

:)

[yardwork]

17. LOL! Exactly!

Because that's exactly the way they treat constituents who ask questions or disagree with them.

[uppityperson]

8. I wrote mine, 1 thanks, 1 shame. Here is the text they voted for.

To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.

[EFerrari]

9. Mine:

Senator Feinstein,

I was appalled by your vote on the Cornyn amendment today and in response, I have joined MoveOn.

As you well know, Gen. Petraeus lied to the media about mobile weapons labs. He lied to Congress last week when he said he was not arming tribals in Iraq. He has been linked, in the New York Times, to kickbacks on arms deals. In reality, MoveOn was too gentle in their condemnation of him.

You are about to retire so you have nothing to lose -- nothing but your legacy.

Elizabeth Ferrari
San Francisco

[AntiFascist]

40. With all the money from her war-profiteering husband....

made recently, she will enjoy a wealthy retirement.

[EFerrari]

47. I wish I believed in hell. n/t

[mogster]

13. Go Beth!

This auto-respect for army personnell is unsound and militaristic, and the moveon.org was right in criticising Petraeus. The US soldiers was prepared for a scenario with rose leaves strewn all the way to Baghdad and now the rose leaves are pulled out again, for show. The troops pay the price every time you smell the rose fragrance around Iraq, not Petraeus.

[EFerrari]

16. They need the rosy smell to cover the carnage.

:grr:

[mogster]

18. I'll give YOU some roses, though

Say :hi: to Boxer if you call her, she really deserves a lot of credit :-)

[EFerrari]

19. Thank you! That is amazing.

:loveya:

[ljm2002]

20. "This auto-respect for army personnell is unsound and militaristic"

Yes, all of that.

But the other thing is, the auto-respect for military personnel does not extend to Democratic war heroes, who are routinely smeared by the same assholes who are pretending to be outraged by the Petraeus ad.

[EFerrari]

22. Our national double standard. n/t

[EFerrari]

14. Oh -- and we might want to call Boxer and Durbin, too.

Because they stood up.

:kick:

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. I WROTE a letter to boxer

posted today

[EFerrari]

23. Cool. Is there a link, nadin? My eyes are sort of crossing right now

so if you have a link, please post it.

Her phones are busy, too.

[EFerrari]

24. kick

[Tom Joad]

25. sen di also voted for the IWR. she often votes as a loyal bushie.

[EFerrari]

26. Diane capitalized on the murder of Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk.

It took me a long time to know that but, believe me, I know it.

[demobabe]

27. Good!

We need to coordinate more efforts to contact our reps - we don't do it enough. Good for you!

:applause:

[EFerrari]

28. CALL THE SENATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!1

with gratitude to Tyler.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

29. Kick for windmills and other very important objects

[goodgd_yall]

30. Going to do it right now

Feinstein is my senator too.

[EFerrari]

31. Thank you.

:kick:

[L. Coyote]

35. The GOP wants you to distrct her. You call, they win. You alraedy are

distracted from important issues. Might as well drag your Senator's staff with you.

[EFerrari]

37. Beg to differ. The tenor AND the vehicle matters. n/t

[Bluebear]

50. Put her on ignore too, like you have done to so many of us today!

:rofl:

[Virginia Dare]

36. I already blew all my righteous outrage this morning on J. Warner

and his sandbagging of Webb on the troop rest bill. I'm in my happy place now. Just give some money to Moveon and fuggeddaboudit.

[EFerrari]

38. I agree. There's no need to go into full blow out mode at all.

But if we don't weigh in, there's thate much less friction the next time we're ripped off.

Surely we can make a call or send an email without popping a vein. :)

[MissDeeds]

39. My senator won't do diddly

Well, actually, I think he would do diddly - or at least diddle diddly - He's among the reddest of the reds. When he came into my bookstore a few years ago begging for votes, I said that I was a Dem and politely opened the door for him to leave. The twerp came back not 15 minutes later and asked if I'd reconsider. What an ass.

When did the people in this country lose their power? What ever became of the idea that they are elected to represent us - the 80% who want this freaking war over?!

So like the Repubs to divert attention from the wretched war by throwing crap at MoveOn -"Oh, look! Something shiny over there." Pity is, it works for them every time.

[EFerrari]

43. No kidding. Welcome to DU, MissDeeds. n/t

[Vinca]

42. Don't forget to mention that "Betrayus" originated with the troops in Iraq. nt

[EFerrari]

44. I didn't think they'd listen that long.

:(

Okay, maybe I need to go soak up a ray of sunshine somewhere. :grr:

[Vinca]

56. It gets discouraging, doesn't it? I sent off my usual emails

to my 2 'puke senators and I'll get the usual McLetters in about 3 weeks. Nothing ever changes.

[lonestarnot]

45. No use sfp2K. McDrain and Bile are human scum.

[EFerrari]

49. I know. But I can't get out of the habit of objecting

when someone tries to step all over me or mine.

[lonestarnot]

58. No don't get out of that habit!

:cry:

[bullwinkle428]

51. My Sen. Harkin, who is the devil incarnate in a few DUer's eyes, voted "NO"

on the censure, so I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have to complain. I should probably send a thank-you e-mail...

I won't even bother with the Repuke Grassley...a total waste of my breath there!

[EFerrari]

52. Please do email Harkin. They need to hear from us when

they actually represent us. That's why I call Barbara. It's harder to pay attention to people who do right. :hi:

[Pyrzqxgl]

53. At least California has one true Democratic Senator, Barbara Boxer.

[EFerrari]

54. Today, I'm really grateful for Barbara.

No kidding.

:kick:

[truedelphi]

55. K7 R'ed your thread CAlled Boxer's Office to offer thanks! AM TOO DAMN NUMB! to

Say or do more.

You guys will have to do it for me, I'd like to go off and quietly blow my brains out.

[EFerrari]

59. Thank you.

:(

Take a break. Remember, if we blow our brains out, the terrorists win. :hug:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

57. I called the asshat responsible

It wasn't useless, it made me feel better. That's useful in its own way.

[EFerrari]

60. Good.

:kick: