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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:53 AM
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What has Iran done that the Saudi's Haven't
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 07:04 AM by JCMach1
1. Active involvement in Iraq's Civil War

The Saudi involvement in the Iraqi insurgency is overestimated, but does have an impact that goes beyond the number of insurgents involved: “Unlike the foreign fighters from poor countries such as Yemen and Egypt, Saudis entering Iraq often bring in money to support the cause, arriving with personal funds between $10,000-$15,000. Saudis are the most sought after militants; not only because of their cash contributions, but also because of the media attention their deaths as “martyrs” bring to the cause. This is a powerful recruiting tool. Because of the wealth of Saudi Arabia, and its well developed press, there also tends to be much more coverage of Saudi deaths in Iraq than of those from poorer countries.” On the question of motivation and public support, the report asserts “If one talks about the sources of broader public support for the insurgency, Sunni nationalism seems to be the strongest contributing factor fueling the unrest.”... http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/09/23/saudi-militants-in-iraq/

..therefore the Saudi leadership is preparing to substantially revise its Iraq policy. Options now include providing Sunni military leaders (primarily ex-Baathist members of the former Iraqi officer corps, who make up the backbone of the insurgency) with the same types of assistance -- funding, arms and logistical support -- that Iran has been giving to Shiite armed groups for years. Another possibility includes the establishment of new Sunni brigades to combat the Iranian-backed militias... http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2006/12/journal_saudi_a.html


2. Starting an active Nuclear Program

The six Gulf Arab states are moving ahead with plans to explore development of their first nuclear energy plants, with representatives planning to seek help from the UN's nuclear watchdog later this month, the secretary- general of the Gulf Cooperation Council said Sunday.



Abdul Rahman al-Attiyah said he and other GCC officials would travel to the Vienna headquarters of the International Atomic Energy Agency February 22 to seek help planning the six-nation Arab bloc's first foray into nuclear power... http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3363812,00.html


3. And don't forget the 9/11 Hijackers

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes "very direct, very specific links" between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators "that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental."

Said another official: "It's really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the government" as well... http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/080303A.shtml


And why exactly aren't we talking about these things in the MSM instead of Iran???
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:05 AM
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1. Excellent Points: Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9/11 but instead,
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 07:06 AM by ShortnFiery
we're gonna kill a whole bunch of Shia Iranians, the arch enemies of Sunnis within Saudi Arabia. :crazy:

OH YEAH, that makes about as much sense as Shia (ruling party in Iraq) Muslims from IRAN killing us with IEDs stamped with "Made In Persia" identification, i.e., with the ink still wet. :eyes:

The warmongering assholes and their enablers (Corporate Pentagon, NYT, Whorsington Post, FOX News) must think that The American People are F**king Stupid to buy into the above - crock of shit logic! :puke:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:08 AM
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2. The media is being completely complicit with the government
to propagandize Iran right now.

The Iranians are not fluffy puppies, but people need to wake-up to the fact they are being manipulated AGAIN in the exact same way they were before the Iraq invasion!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:14 AM
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5. Exactly! And we need to realize that The World fears the USA MOST, not
the dangerous, but mostly contained M.E. Nations.

The Iranians are not savages, but like the Saudis and every one else in the neighborhood, they are desperately seeking NUKESs to prevent invasion/attack from US!

We are creating a nuclear M.E. by all our saber rattling.

I'm sickened by all this warmongering. Nothing good can come of more KILLING and MAIMING of humans, be they American, Iraqi, Saudi Arabian OR Iranian. :(

Yes, we are CREATING MORE ENEMIES faster than we can KILL THEM. :crazy:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:08 AM
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3. b/c the bushies aren't kissie-kissie with the Iranians like they are
with the Saudi Royal family.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:08 AM
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4. Iranians didn't bankroll Bushco
or provide them with convenient "cataclysmic events" when they need them.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:29 AM
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6. BUT THEY DID

MAKE A DEAL WITH HALLIBURTON WHEN CHENEY WAS CEO,AND WHEN THEY WERE ON THE"OUGHT NOT TO TRADE LIST". ONCE AGAIN SHOWING CHANEY'S LOVE FOR MONEY OVER COUNTRY!
WHERE IS THE MEDIA ON THIS ONE? RUSSER IS A JOKE AND PART OF THE MEDIA PROBLEM-HE CAN'T BE THAT STUPID TO LET THIS ADMINISTRATION USE HIM LIKE THEY HAVE-
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:35 AM
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7. I'll bet there's a lot more money then the personal contributions
made by Saudi volunteers going to the Sunni's. The Bin Ladens and the royal family have probably been giving millions.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:46 AM
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8. The Iran confrontation settles old scores going back to 1979.
Back in the 1980's Iran did instigate and sponsor attacks against U.S. citizens
in the Middle East. The U.S. and Iran also waged a low-intensity war in the
Persian Gulf in 1988, featuring the shoot-down of an Iranian airliner.
Of course, that was twenty years ago.

As for nuclear programs, Iran was caught in the Pakistani nuclear technology
bazaar. The U.S. asserts that Iran should forfeit its rights under the NPT,
an extreme view that other nations do not share. The Arab League program
is a clean slate, however. Anyway, the Arab program is a proposal, not
action, and Condoleezza Rice is trying to talk the Arabs out of it.

The Iranians have been more vocally anti-American than the Saudis, and Iran is
more obiviously blocking the way to the neocon vision of a new Middle East.
The neocons plan to get the Saudis eventually, but "Axis of Evil" member
Iran is the more immediate problem.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:49 AM
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9. So maybe
we should bomb Saudi Arabia
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