Why do I have this bad feeling that Hillary is just not electible?

[jerryme1]

[BOSSHOG]

1. You've been trolling DU for months?

[jerryme1]

3. Fortunately, I've been away from DU for a bit. But where is HRC getting all her "support?"

[BOSSHOG]

6. From Sea to Shining Sea?

[RiverStone]

If you believe the MSM

Then she hovers in the 40%ish range poll after poll.

I for one don't buy it - I think the MSM/corporate connect have an agenda and know well how to manipulate John Q. Public who are far more into watching reality television then paying attention.

Most DUers PAY ATTENTION - lots of political junkies here. And HRC poll always in the lower tier on DU. Has in the past and will in the furure....

Of course, I'm rather cynical when it comes to believing anything that is reported as news on TV.

If realty reflected the true view of many DUers and almost every DEM friend, family or acquaintance I know - Dennis Kucinich would be the leader in the polls. Nobody in the corporate elite could tolerate that; hence, the tail wags the dog for Hillary.

[Clintonista2]

2. Because you've fallen for the RW propaganda?

[11 Bravo]

4. Oh, fuck me. We've never heard THAT on this board before.

[jerryme1]

8. Do DUers support HRC?

[11 Bravo]

13. Some do, some don't.

I like Edwards, but I will support ANY Dem nominee. The "Hillary is unelectable meme" sounds too much like wishful thinking.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Don't Know. Tell Me

:eyes:

[jerryme1]

10. It seems she is such a transparent politician. Plus she is a woman. I'm not sure Americans are

up for it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Why Don't You Like Women?

eom

[jerryme1]

14. As Jerry sings, the women are smarter.... I'm just not sure red meat eating America is ready.

And what a shame it would be to have four more years of a republican because the dems fielded the wrong candidate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. She's Spanking Rudy And Freddy In The Polls...No Worry

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

[fenriswolf]

7. cause she's not

the repubs want her in the primary so either they can win, or she can win and be the new tool. I mean they are not stupid, they know what their approval rating is so I can only assume that rove's public declaration of his dislike for hillary is actually a hope to improve her chances of being the primary so that when people realize that hillary is running almost all repubs will want a repub of a diff color rather then a dem.

[DURHAM D]

9. Cause you like feeling bad. eom

[Mythsaje]

11. Oh, I SO want to answer this...

How about I just give you this link instead...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3543975&mesg_id=3543979

[Nye Bevan]

15. Clinton is simply NOT ELECTABLE

and the Repukes are SALIVATING at the prospect of him getting the Democratic nomination.

A draft-dodging, philandering, failed governor from a poor Southern state simply CANNOT WIN against the man who liberated Kuwait.

That's what they were saying in 1991.

[jerryme1]

16. Don't forget Ross Perot.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Damn Him

He pilfered votes from Clinton and denied him a pop vote majority.

[Carolina]

25. but Bill had a silver tongue

and a way of connecting with people that HRC lacks. Plus 1991 was light years ago. Yes the media said such things but it was still a very different media. There was no FAUX plus CNN and the other networks had not tipped so far right.

Comparing then and now is truly apples and oranges.

[smalll]

17. Compared to who?

She's far more electable than the Republicans - grumpy old man McCain, tired old man Thompson (a rare individual - a "Hollywood star" who's NOT good-looking. There's him and Whoopi Goldberg. Can't think of that many more.) She'd beat them. Giuliani? A bald, way-too-New-Yorky occasional drag-queen who shares 5 marriages with his current wife with ties to Bernie Kerik? Mitt the Mormon with his dog on the roof? She'd beat them both too.

And I would contend that even with her baggage (everyone's got SOME baggage) I contend she would be more electable than John House-Hair-and-Haircut Edwards, and more electable than a black man with Hussein as a middle name (and a last name one letter removed from the mastermind of 9/11.)

She's focused, she's disciplined, she's looking Presidential, she studies the books and has an incredibly low gaffe-rate. And everything they CAN throw at her is incredibly old news. Cattle futures? Please! She continues to learn and grow, she doesn't make the kind of mistakes she used to. Unlike SOME people who, PLANNING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, NEVERTHELESS took some time out over the past four years to build themselves 28,000 square foot palaces or marry non-citizen foreigners with tongue studs who happen to be painfully age-inappropriate, height-inappopriate and attractiveness-level-inappropriate for said candidate or candidates (who shall remain nameless?) And you think Hillary is unelectable? It is to laugh! :rofl:

[jerryme1]

21. Sounds good on paper. Let's hope you are right.

[sallyseven]

19. Get over it. She is going to win

And she is going to beat the pants off of the republicans. So there

[LanternWaste]

20. Coupla reasons--

"Why do I have this bad feeling that Hillary is just not electible? "

Coupla reasons--

bad beer last night?

bad egg for breakfast?

you're on really good medication?

all of the above?


I apologize-- I have a habit of responding to banality with absurdity...

[jerryme1]

23. That's really absurd.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Pot=Kettle=Black

eom

[fenriswolf]

26. ok how a bout this

its not about her electibality but how she will be as a president is what scares me.

[MODemocrat]

27. It's not a bad feeling; it's what you're hoping for evidently

I have to laugh at the experts who can foresee one candidate or the other not being electible; Oh, if
only our foresight was as good as our hindsight, we'd all probably do things differently. My
money (what little I have) is on Hillary.:9 :9

[doc03]

28. Because she isn't!

[AdHocSolver]

29. In 2004, the "anybody can beat Bush" crowd selected the "most electable" John Kerry.

Hillary Clinton will bring out right-wingers and Clinton "haters" en masse. This will produce a close election as in 2004, and the Republicans will have another opportunity to pull off another vote counting fraud, as in Ohio and elsewhere. The only way Clinton could win would be if the vote counting were scrupulously honest, and the Democrats don't seem to be energized into ensuring accurate vote counting.

That said, Bill didn't stop the downward slide in this country that the Republicans started beginning with Reagan. Instead of pushing health care reform using his "first 100 days" capital, he out-sourced that to Hillary and eventually got us NAFTA. Subsequent voting patterns show that Perot took away more votes from Daddy Bush than from Clinton.

Aside from the fact that Bill was a mediocre President, he is likeable, and Hillary is not.