List of leading proponents for waging war on Iran thread

[bobthedrummer]

I'm merely starting this thread, it requires input by others.

Who wants war with Iran?

One of the leading individuals for war against Iran is Abram Shulsky.

Abram Shulsky profile from Right Web
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1355

Add others seeking war with Iran to this thread.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST

[Me.]

1. Lieberman/Kyl

Podhoretz

[Gman]

2. Darth Cheney

[Gman]

3. Alan Dershowitz

[bobthedrummer]

5. No doubt Dick's the prime mover, but don't overlook that Daddy's Girl, Elizabeth Cheney

Elizabeth Cheney profile from Source Watch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Elizabeth_Cheney

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST

[Gman]

4. John Hagee

[bobthedrummer]

6. Kansas US Senator and Republican Presidential candidate Sam Brownback

actually said he's "ready to strike Iran" after Wednesday's vote on Lieberman's , well whatever that "censure" was called-Sam's really anxious to "strike" as Think Progress reported on

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/brownback-attack-iran/

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[Emit]

7. Ledeen! n/t

[bobthedrummer]

8. Thread was moved to GD kick

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[bobthedrummer]

9. .

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[Emit]

10. Ledeen earlier this month on Iran

Here's what Ledeen is up to these days: http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/09/the_iranian_time_bomb.php

Excerpts:

Topic 1: http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/02/blog_week_in_review_michael_le.php

Ledeen describes evidence of Tehran's financing of involvement in Iraq - al Al-Qaeda in Iran, etc. Bin Laden went to Iran, and his son is there now. Ledeen thinks bin Laden is dead now. Al-Zawahiri in and operating out of Iran -- all top leadership operating out of Iran. He is asked by the interviewer, "As the Czar for American Foreign Policy for Western Civilization..." what would you do? Ledeen details his ideas for regime change, including regime change, funding radio/tv stations in Iran, etc.

Topic 2: (Can't find link yet) Asked again about what he'd do to address Iran. Ledeen's solution? First, threaten regime change in Iran -- have Bush and Rice "publicly announce US support of regime change in Iran..." Second, "...exercise legitimate self defense..." -- target bases.

Topic 3: http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/09/the_iranian_time_bomb.php
Discussion about Iranian Labor leaders who were recently jailed. Advocate that trade unions in the west should help Iranians build up a strike fund.

Here's the link to all: http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/09/the_iranian_time_bomb.php

[Emit]

11. Ledeen gave testimony @ Sen Comm.'s "Iran's Nuclear Impasse: Next Steps"

Last year

U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security

Title: Iran's Nuclear Impasse: Next Steps
Date: 7/20/06
Time (EST): 1:30 PM
Place: Dirksen Senate Office Building, Rm. 342
********
The purpose of the hearing is look at the status on Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities, European negotiations and the UN Security Council, and the feasibility of further negotiations, democracy promotion, sanctions, and/or military options.

Witnesses Testimony

Panel 1
Amir Abbas Fakhravar , Independent Student Movement
Ilan Berman , American Foreign Policy Council
Michael Ledeen , American Enterprise Institute
Ray Takehy , Council on Foreign Relations
Jim Walsh , Massachusetts Institute of Technology


http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Detail&HearingID=378



PREPARED TESTIMONY OF DR. MICHAEL A. LEDEEN TO THE SENATE
HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
SUBCOMMITTEE ON FEDERAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT,
GOVERNMENT INFORMATION, AND INTERNATIONAL SECURITY

I am most grateful for your kind invitation to discuss American policy toward Iran.
Sadly, recent events, most notably the Iranian-sponsored attacks against Israel from
Lebanon and Gaza--have made this discussion more urgent than ever. But that is what
often happens when successive administrations, of both political parties and of various
political convictions, avoid dealing with a serious problem. It doesn’t go away. Instead,
the problem gets worse and the cost of dealing with it becomes more and more
burdensome. The theocratic tyranny in Tehran is a very serious problem, and it is
becoming graver. It has already cost a great number of American lives, and an even
greater number of innocent Iranians, Iraqis, Israelis, Lebanese, Argentinians and others
around the world have fallen prey to the mullahs. And now they are hell-bent to become
a nuclear power.

The bottom line is that the Islamic Republic of Iran has been at war with us for twentyseven
years, and we have yet to respond.

~snip~

They have waged an unholy proxy war against us ever since. They created Hizbollah and
Islamic Jihad, and they support most all the others, from Hamas and al Qaeda to the
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine–General Command. Iran’s proxies range
from Shi’ites to Sunnis to Marxists, all cannon fodder for the overriding objective to
dominate or destroy us.

~snip~

The nuclear threat is inseparable from the nature of the regime. If there were a freely
elected, democratic government in Tehran, instead of the self-selecting tyranny of the
mullahs, we would in all likelihood be dealing with a pro-Western country that would be
more interested in good trade and cultural relations than in nuclear warheads.
In other words, it’s all about the regime. Change the regime, and the nuclear question
becomes manageable. Leave the mullahs in place, and the nuclear weapons directly
threaten us and our friends and allies, raising the ante of the terror war they started
twenty-seven years ago.
And still no Western leader at any time in all these years has advocated regime change in
Iran.

~snip~

That leaves us with three courses of action, none of which is automatically exclusive of
the others: sanctions, military strikes, and support for democratic revolution.

~snip~
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/072006Ledeen.pdf

[bobthedrummer]

12. Office of Iranian Affairs ("reincarnation" of Office of Special Plans/OSP) page from Source Watch

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Office_of_Iranian_Affairs

Same offices as OSP, same Abram Shulsky, etc...

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[bobthedrummer]

14. Doug Feith, Steve Cambone many others were in and out of those old Rumsfeld DoD OSP

offices along with Abram Shulsky-kick and a callout for more posts about who is calling for an attack on Iran.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

19. I had no idea they mutated to an OIA! That tends to show mens rea, huh. eom

[bobthedrummer]

13. .

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[WilliamPitt]

15. Podhoretz, Bolton

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/100107B.shtml

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatshit crazy.

[Emit]

16. bob, have you seen or listened to this?

I think it should be required listening/viewing for all those who are concerned about this issue:

http://www.aei.org/events/eventID.1565,filter.all/event_detail.asp#

The Iranian Time Bomb Print Mail



BOOK FORUM

Start: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:00 PM

End: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:30 PM

Location: Wohlstetter Conference Center, Twelfth Floor, AEI
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20036
Directions to AEI

Iran has now taken its rightful place at the center of our debate on the war. Hardly a day goes by without new revelations about Iran’s penetration of Iraq either by supplying weapons, money, guidance, and intelligence to both Sunni and Shiite terrorists, or, in some cases, sending soldiers from the Quds Force--an elite unit within Iran’s Revolutionary Guard--to confront American and Iraqi forces. And in the background we hear the leitmotif of the Iranian nuclear program, which continues apace despite international sanctions and negotiations.

An intensified debate has resulted: Is our current strategy adequate? Should we be more vigorous in confronting the Islamic Republic or should we--as under secretary of state for political affairs R. Nicholas Burns has recently argued--continue to use diplomacy as the primary component of our Iran policy? If we decide to take more active measures, what should they be?

In his latest book, The Iranian Time Bomb: The Mullah Zealots' Quest for Destruction
(St. Martin’s Press, September 2007), AEI Freedom Scholar Michael A. Ledeen reviews the history of Iran’s long-standing war against the West and discusses American policy toward Iran from the fall of the shah to the present. He analyzes the Iranian regime’s treatment of its own citizens, presents a detailed assessment of the mullahs’ vision of the future, and proposes an effective strategy for thwarting their global ambitions.

Former CIA director R. James Woolsey and Cliff May of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, will join Michael A. Ledeen in discussing these and other questions upon which so much of America’s future depends.


1:45 p.m. Registration

2:00 Speakers: Michael A. Ledeen, AEI
Cliff May, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
R. James Woolsey, former CIA director

[bobthedrummer]

29. Yep. And years ago i got totally fed-up seeing the Decider or Mr. Cheney

or some other BFEE criminal making statements from AEI's HQ, Emit.
:nuke:

[King Coal]

17. Erik Prince.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

18. "Prince of Darkness" Perle, GWB, Wolfowitz, Cohen, Rumsfeld, "Scooter", Bennet,...

,...and, of course, anyone associated with the AEI.

[mmonk]

20. And of course an impeachment inquiry would reveal

their past shenanigans as well as expose them on Iran.

[Emit]

21. American Foreign Policy Council's Iran Freedom Initiative

American Foreign Policy Council's Iran Freedom Initiative
http://www.afpc.org/IFI/iranfreedom.shtml

The Committee on the Present Danger
http://www.committeeonthepresentdanger.org/Home/tabid/218/Default.aspx

Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD)
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about_FDD/about_FDD.htm

The Intelligence Summit
http://www.intelligencesummit.org/

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

22. .

[bemildred]

23. Dolton. nt

[bobthedrummer]

24. Calling for more-kick

[seemslikeadream]

25. "we might as well say it - Israeli and Jewish input."

Seymour Hersh: It's the democrats that want to attack Iran
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener/who-wants-to-bomb-iran-_b_67229.html

[Junkdrawer]

28. Beat me to it...

:hi:

[blondeatlast]

26. Jon Kyl, being groomed by the GOP for a VP run, no doubt. nt

[Megahurtz]

27. Poppy.

But I'm sure you already knew that. ;)

[KoKo]

30. K&R!!!